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The Way Forward

TBF

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26. They wanted change with Obama &

Reply to scipan (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:24 PM

Jan 22

they still want it.

I don't think it was a vote for Trump as much as policies. Lower rent, lower gas, lower eggs, etc.

There are some that are in the Christian Nationalist tent and will do anything - even vote for a clown like Trump - to get those rulings they want (Roe etc). We can't discount that those cult members will not budge.

But all those voters out there that didn't vote & see politics as useless -- those are the folks we need to reach.

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Bernie's policies? Was he right all along? [View all] LilElf70 Jan 21 OP

Mostly, yes... WarGamer Jan 21 #1

Bernie has always Faux pas Jan 21 #2

Indeed!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 22 #34

I have always agreed with Bernie's policies... Think. Again. Jan 21 #3

Yep!! He's been the one all along. wordstroken Jan 21 #4

I thought it was a good listen LilElf70 Jan 21 #5

Bernie has always been an FDR independent. I wish the D party would move toward FDRs and Bernie's policies. Clouds Passing Jan 21 #6

Ya know, I always thought LilElf70 Jan 21 #7

Her was smeared pretty well by some members of the progressive caucus, so much so that some refused to endorse him or JohnSJ Jan 21 #11

Bernie endorsed both Hilary and Kamala Clouds Passing Jan 22 #20

I wasn't referring to Bernie. I believe you said something to the effect that the neocons in the D party maligned JohnSJ Jan 22 #21

It's not Democratic neocons. They're neo-liberals. Weird name for economic globalists. hedda_foil Jan 22 #22

Meant neo-liberals. Clouds Passing Jan 22 #35

True. hedda_foil Jan 22 #38

Why didn't Nina Turner, David Sirota, Briahana Joy Gray, Cornell West, etc. who were integral part of his campaign in JohnSJ Jan 21 #8

Agreed. This sounds so much like B.See Jan 22 #17

YES - the point is the ideas. TBF Jan 21 #9

We can start with LilElf70 Jan 21 #10

100% on both - and I really wanted AOC for that role. nt TBF Jan 22 #24

Really? Martin68 Jan 21 #12

Actually, Hillary Clinton was right all along ismnotwasm Jan 21 #13

She was right about most things. Bluepinky Jan 22 #19

He voted against the USA PATRIOT Act, too. intheflow Jan 22 #23

He also voted multiple times against The Magnitsky Act, and voted for and boasted about the Crime Bill his emulatorloo Jan 22 #29

She voted for Iraq War, he voted against it, just as I stated. Bluepinky Jan 22 #37

She wasn't right when as a senator, she voted for the defense of marriage act. Lunabell Jan 22 #27

THANK YOU Skittles Thursday #41

As much as I appreciate all the feedback, LilElf70 Jan 21 #14

Thanks! You nailed it. nt TBF Jan 22 #25

Yes osteopath6 Jan 22 #15

And he's not against using his powder! GPV Jan 22 #32

Agreed! osteopath6 Thursday #39

I voted for Bernie in 16 and 20. He has it right. scipan Jan 22 #16

Part of the the reason LilElf70 Jan 22 #18

They wanted change with Obama & TBF Jan 22 #26

That is it osteopath6 Thursday #40

Bernie has good ideas, but lacks the skills to make concrete plans to implement them. emulatorloo Jan 22 #28

Yep. He was right all along. N/t Peregrine Took Jan 22 #30

BERNIE sure as hell was right before the Ukraine invasion... WarGamer Jan 22 #31

Yes. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 22 #33

I think most of the complaints about centered on "What about the poor 1%ers and how much they will suffer" LiberalArkie Jan 22 #36