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Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
39. Good grief
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:26 PM
Mar 2020

What won't you justify or rationalize from this known sexist? He's repeatedly treated women and their issues with condescension and dismissiveness in all kinds of fora, rushed and not. That was not anything new for him--it was a pattern that plays out over and over again for those who don't bury their heads in the sand about it.

One instance could be excused; but multiple examples of it are a warning of an irredeemable sexist. And he has blown off or demeaned women and women's issues on multiple occasions. For instance, all those times when he has harped on how the Democrats need to stop focusing on "identity politics," which has never been anything but a code from clueless white men with too much unearned privilege telling women and minorities that the issues they care about aren't important. Or, almost as bad, for the dumb women and minorities to sit down and be quiet while the white bois decide what's best for them.

Braying about identity politics ( and "political correctness" ) is always a silencing tactic, and it's sexist to silence women (and racist with minorities) when they're speaking out about what issues matter to them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Women are rejecting Sanders [View all] Gothmog Mar 2020 OP
Maybe, but Sander's most vociferous and extreme supporters/campaign reps freak me out. hlthe2b Mar 2020 #1
It has been for me. Cha Mar 2020 #19
It's not his demeanor, it's his record in the Senate. Haggis for Breakfast Mar 2020 #43
Just compare the two speeches on the same subject today. Biden was soothing and reassuring... George II Mar 2020 #2
Exactly. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #3
Jaysus.. and Bernie signs in the background. Cha Mar 2020 #21
Oh, good lord! NurseJackie Mar 2020 #34
I am a woman and I reject Sanders. FM123 Mar 2020 #4
What? They don't like a finger-waving angry shouting man who thinks he's right about everything? bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #5
+1000 llmart Mar 2020 #32
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #48
+1000. (nt) Paladin Mar 2020 #58
Fact is... sheshe2 Mar 2020 #6
Yes, although she didn't say anything at the time, I think this is how he lost Rachel in 2016. LisaM Mar 2020 #9
Yep. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #14
Hope you're hanging in there, sheshe LisaM Mar 2020 #18
Geez. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #26
After his recent display or rudeness and dismissiveness... do you blame us? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #7
sanders totally lost me after his behavior and treatment of HRC Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #8
... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #12
wow uponit7771 Mar 2020 #46
Ugh! That just infuriated me when I saw it originally! smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #49
Back in 2016 Hiawatha Pete Mar 2020 #45
Ugh, so dismissive. LisaM Mar 2020 #10
It was condescending and dismissive. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #13
Yes after a debate on a crowded stage is the perfect time for a deep heart to heart talk. Rilgin Mar 2020 #27
Good grief Aquaria Mar 2020 #39
So post and use a different one. This thread is from a debate stage not a great place to talk. Rilgin Mar 2020 #40
That finger. nt sheshe2 Mar 2020 #15
That hand in the face... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #16
Ugh! sheshe2 Mar 2020 #17
Damn.. Cha Mar 2020 #23
Excellent reminder.. seems like this went down Cha Mar 2020 #22
So disrespectful and dismissive. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #24
Karma can be Cha Mar 2020 #25
Bernie was right to wait until they were off the stage and not recorded to talk about the issue. aikoaiko Mar 2020 #55
It was implicit sexism and paternalism. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #57
They were on stage and recorded. Is that really the time to for a serious personal discussion? aikoaiko Mar 2020 #59
It was the perfect time for an apology. He couldn't even do that. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #60
That was reasonable & smart. Wasn't it something to see Amy tear-up Bloomburg live? Sunlei Mar 2020 #61
Because after all, women should understand they need to wait, right? marble falls Mar 2020 #62
Not at all. But it does take two to have a conversation. aikoaiko Mar 2020 #63
Bingo! And Bernie did not want to talk to a woman at that point. marble falls Mar 2020 #64
Boom!!! K&R NCProgressive Mar 2020 #11
Oh I dunno. Woman here - I think its more like women are more into collaborating, coalition buildin Kashkakat v.2.0 Mar 2020 #20
Bernie just plain creeps me out Skittles Mar 2020 #28
They could have had similar policies with better demeanor and less arm waving IronLionZion Mar 2020 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #30
I happen to know a 20 something young lady who would seriously disagree with that. nt yaesu Mar 2020 #31
Anecdote is not data. Aquaria Mar 2020 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author zackymilly Mar 2020 #35
There is no consistency in these attacks, They are just attacks. Rilgin Mar 2020 #36
Oh for crying out loud Aquaria Mar 2020 #42
A little off the thread but enjoy your righteous wrath Rilgin Mar 2020 #44
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #50
I love you. betsuni Mar 2020 #52
K&R this post. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #56
Does Jane know Bernie's been asking other women out? n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #37
And - he comes across as a complainer KT2000 Mar 2020 #38
Uh yeah, you think? Cozmo Mar 2020 #41
I think Sanders thought because he has some inexplicable attraction for younger people that he... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #47
K&R betsuni Mar 2020 #51
Hmmmm mmmmm boston bean Mar 2020 #53
No matter how many times I'm told I'm stupid ... betsuni Mar 2020 #54
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