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Gothmog

(154,050 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 06:08 PM Mar 2020

Women are rejecting Sanders [View all]




For all the talk about Sen. Bernie Sanders’s diverse coalition and progressive outlook (and all the questions about the “likability” of female candidates), it should not escape notice that the biggest group of Democratic voters — women — overwhelmingly rejected the Vermont independent.

In Michigan, women made up 54 percent of the electorate; former vice president Joe Biden won 58 percent among these voters, compared to 35 percent for Sanders. In Missouri, women also accounted for 54 percent of the electorate; they chose Biden 64 to 32 percent. In Mississippi, 58 percent of the electorate was female; women chose Biden 83 to 12 percent.

Go back to Super Tuesday. Biden’s median support among women was 12 points higher than Sanders’s (37 to 25 percent) but only four points higher among men. In all Super Tuesday state exit polls, women made up more than 50 percent of the electorate — reaching roughly 60 percent in some cases (e.g. 58 percent in Minnesota, 61 percent in Alabama, 59 percent in Maine). That reflects the huge gender gap between the two parties that has only widened during the Trump era.....

Women’s aversion to Sanders may also be a rejection of the Bernie Bros phenomenon — the obnoxious harassment and even threats directed at women (including journalists and union leaders, as was the case in Nevada). Plenty of women did not think it was the least bit improbable that Sanders told Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) he did not think a woman could win. The only other candidate whose campaign ethos is so infused with testosterone is Trump.

The degree to which Sanders has turned off women is a fundamental problem for the left, which contrary to its self-conception is largely white and male. It is hard to present oneself as the vanguard of a diverse party when your coalition on race and gender (but not age) looks like a Republican coalition. Moreover, it is impossible to win as a Democrat without the support and enthusiasm of women.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Women are rejecting Sanders [View all] Gothmog Mar 2020 OP
Maybe, but Sander's most vociferous and extreme supporters/campaign reps freak me out. hlthe2b Mar 2020 #1
It has been for me. Cha Mar 2020 #19
It's not his demeanor, it's his record in the Senate. Haggis for Breakfast Mar 2020 #43
Just compare the two speeches on the same subject today. Biden was soothing and reassuring... George II Mar 2020 #2
Exactly. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #3
Jaysus.. and Bernie signs in the background. Cha Mar 2020 #21
Oh, good lord! NurseJackie Mar 2020 #34
I am a woman and I reject Sanders. FM123 Mar 2020 #4
What? They don't like a finger-waving angry shouting man who thinks he's right about everything? bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #5
+1000 llmart Mar 2020 #32
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #48
+1000. (nt) Paladin Mar 2020 #58
Fact is... sheshe2 Mar 2020 #6
Yes, although she didn't say anything at the time, I think this is how he lost Rachel in 2016. LisaM Mar 2020 #9
Yep. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #14
Hope you're hanging in there, sheshe LisaM Mar 2020 #18
Geez. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #26
After his recent display or rudeness and dismissiveness... do you blame us? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #7
sanders totally lost me after his behavior and treatment of HRC Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #8
... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #12
wow uponit7771 Mar 2020 #46
Ugh! That just infuriated me when I saw it originally! smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #49
Back in 2016 Hiawatha Pete Mar 2020 #45
Ugh, so dismissive. LisaM Mar 2020 #10
It was condescending and dismissive. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #13
Yes after a debate on a crowded stage is the perfect time for a deep heart to heart talk. Rilgin Mar 2020 #27
Good grief Aquaria Mar 2020 #39
So post and use a different one. This thread is from a debate stage not a great place to talk. Rilgin Mar 2020 #40
That finger. nt sheshe2 Mar 2020 #15
That hand in the face... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #16
Ugh! sheshe2 Mar 2020 #17
Damn.. Cha Mar 2020 #23
Excellent reminder.. seems like this went down Cha Mar 2020 #22
So disrespectful and dismissive. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #24
Karma can be Cha Mar 2020 #25
Bernie was right to wait until they were off the stage and not recorded to talk about the issue. aikoaiko Mar 2020 #55
It was implicit sexism and paternalism. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #57
They were on stage and recorded. Is that really the time to for a serious personal discussion? aikoaiko Mar 2020 #59
It was the perfect time for an apology. He couldn't even do that. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #60
That was reasonable & smart. Wasn't it something to see Amy tear-up Bloomburg live? Sunlei Mar 2020 #61
Because after all, women should understand they need to wait, right? marble falls Mar 2020 #62
Not at all. But it does take two to have a conversation. aikoaiko Mar 2020 #63
Bingo! And Bernie did not want to talk to a woman at that point. marble falls Mar 2020 #64
Boom!!! K&R NCProgressive Mar 2020 #11
Oh I dunno. Woman here - I think its more like women are more into collaborating, coalition buildin Kashkakat v.2.0 Mar 2020 #20
Bernie just plain creeps me out Skittles Mar 2020 #28
They could have had similar policies with better demeanor and less arm waving IronLionZion Mar 2020 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #30
I happen to know a 20 something young lady who would seriously disagree with that. nt yaesu Mar 2020 #31
Anecdote is not data. Aquaria Mar 2020 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author zackymilly Mar 2020 #35
There is no consistency in these attacks, They are just attacks. Rilgin Mar 2020 #36
Oh for crying out loud Aquaria Mar 2020 #42
A little off the thread but enjoy your righteous wrath Rilgin Mar 2020 #44
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #50
I love you. betsuni Mar 2020 #52
K&R this post. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #56
Does Jane know Bernie's been asking other women out? n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #37
And - he comes across as a complainer KT2000 Mar 2020 #38
Uh yeah, you think? Cozmo Mar 2020 #41
I think Sanders thought because he has some inexplicable attraction for younger people that he... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #47
K&R betsuni Mar 2020 #51
Hmmmm mmmmm boston bean Mar 2020 #53
No matter how many times I'm told I'm stupid ... betsuni Mar 2020 #54
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