Democratic Primaries

dawg day

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6. He sounds like Trump, and that's a problem.

Wed Apr 3, 2019, 04:06 PM

Apr 2019

We all file taxes, and we know, once they're filed, there's no 'dotting of i's and crossing of t's." They're filed. That's your return. It's official. You can't fiddle with it.
And it's not hard to release them. You have a paper copy, or you have an electronic copy, and if you don't have either, you can get a copy from the IRS or your state tax authority.

AT THE SAME TIME... if we're going to demand that every Dem candidate release tax returns, we must make a very big deal about Trump NOT releasing his. Nothing sticks with him, I know, but "What's he hiding?" should be asked every day of Trump. We know he and his campaign are entirely capable of the hypocrisy of combing through the opponent's returns and finding some tiny thing-- "You deducted your SUNGLASSES!" and making a federal case about it.

Unilateral release is counter-productive. Must beat on Trump about his refusal to release.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Washington Post-Enough with the excuses, It's time for Sanders to release his tax returns [View all] Gothmog Apr 2019 OP

Harsh awesomerwb1 Apr 2019 #1

It is a special toner that allows inconvenient "imperfections" to disappear. Blue_true Apr 2019 #104

What is Sanders hiding? nt Maven Apr 2019 #2

Look up Old Towne Media, LLC Gothmog Apr 2019 #7

I did. It's very interesting. I wish I could say more about it... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #87

Look up the hack of the DNC campaign donor list and the claim that Hillary's people were spying. Blue_true Apr 2019 #105

The Bennington Banner (local Vermont newspaper) had a very interesting article about them on 8/12/16 George II Apr 2019 #161

Maybe nothing? We just do not know and the same goes for Trump. cstanleytech Apr 2019 #59

What is TRUMP hiding ??? pangaia Apr 2019 #86

BS and DT both need to show their tax returns.. Cha Apr 2019 #99

I'll drink to that.. pangaia Apr 2019 #122

Yes they do...tick-toc. jrthin Apr 2019 #132

The Washington Post article/editorial is about Sanders, not trump. George II Apr 2019 #159

This issue isn't going away and . . . peggysue2 Apr 2019 #3

+1. nt Susan Calvin Apr 2019 #17

Sure - right after Trump releases his azureblue Apr 2019 #68

Are you suggesting Sanders (I-VT) revmclaren Apr 2019 #83

OK, I'll answer that. MyOwnPeace Apr 2019 #153

Are you serious? yardwork Apr 2019 #91

I'm afraid so. Use Trump as a role model. Who would have thought? nt Blue_true Apr 2019 #109

Whataboutism run amuck. yardwork Apr 2019 #112

As DEMOCRATS, we'll be choosing our nominee for the 2020 general election. George II Apr 2019 #160

So far you'd only have one person on the stage. Why lean on just Bernie? Doitnow Apr 2019 #79

Bernie Sanders (I-VT) revmclaren Apr 2019 #90

What? Blue_true Apr 2019 #110

+1000 we can do it Apr 2019 #98

Nope, not this time. Blue_true Apr 2019 #108

+1000 jrthin Apr 2019 #137

Once everyone else releases their tax returns, the pressure will be yuuuuuuge. OnDoutside Apr 2019 #4

Bernie has had longer than everyone else to get his together, pnwmom Apr 2019 #41

Ah in fairness, Jane was very busy at the time. OnDoutside Apr 2019 #48

No she was a "little bit busy." Just like Bernie was a "little bit busy" pnwmom Apr 2019 #53

Yup and the media move on like they did with Trump's taxes OnDoutside Apr 2019 #78

Yup sfwriter Apr 2019 #77

If Biden is in New Times, then Sanders is too, but will the media OnDoutside Apr 2019 #149

Yep. nt Blue_true Apr 2019 #111

"Soon". That's the I.O.U. Bernie wants us to take to the bank. oasis Apr 2019 #5

He sounds like Trump, and that's a problem. dawg day Apr 2019 #6

I fear that he is amending his prior joint returns to file individually without Jane on the return Gothmog Apr 2019 #8

If he is, Susan Calvin Apr 2019 #19

It's my understanding that you can't. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #33

Do returns have to be marked as amended returns or would he be able to hide that? n/t pnwmom Apr 2019 #43

The 2014 partial return released by sanders was a joint return Gothmog Apr 2019 #52

I once amended mine (a tax document arrived late)- dawg day Apr 2019 #136

This message was self-deleted by its author brandnewday2009 Apr 2019 #23

Bernie might not be hiding anything - I'd like to think he isn't - The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #27

Yup. If there's nothing to hide, why drag his feet TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #168

But if stuff from the publicly released tax returns "disappear", what can the IRS do about it? Blue_true Apr 2019 #116

If as you say... jrthin Apr 2019 #138

I don't know the answer to your question. Blue_true Apr 2019 #140

Hey Bernie..tell them you are being audited..It worked for the last guy. Nt 🙄 helpisontheway Apr 2019 #9

It's way past time for Jeff Bezos to pay some damn taxes too workinclasszero Apr 2019 #10

Who thinks this type of deflection is an appropriate retort? OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #11

Whatabout whatabout whatabout.... The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #12

It really is that simple "Show us your taxes, Shit or get off the pot" Stuart G Apr 2019 #29

+1 Kurt V. Apr 2019 #13

Why are the alleged transgressions of Jeff Bezos even marginally relevant The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #20

none. a part of amazon's business model was to not pay taxes. so when I'm reminded of it , Kurt V. Apr 2019 #150

Is it soon yet? Gothmog Apr 2019 #16

In Bernie years or regular years? nt Blue_true Apr 2019 #118

This shows that even his most ardent supporters... WeekiWater Apr 2019 #34

Is Bezos running for President, too? n/t pnwmom Apr 2019 #44

Hell no he's already master of the universe workinclasszero Apr 2019 #46

Well I guess that puts the majority of the Democratic candidates in his cross hairs. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #85

+10000. ehrnst Apr 2019 #154

You mean like all Democrats in the House and Senate have been threatening? ehrnst Apr 2019 #155

When did Jeff Bezos announce BlueMTexpat Apr 2019 #55

Oh noes! MyNameGoesHere Apr 2019 #66

Jeff Bezos pays taxes, LOTS of taxes. George II Apr 2019 #100

Bezos, like pretty much ALL publicly traded company CEOs get most salary as stock. Blue_true Apr 2019 #123

Change the subject much? Blue_true Apr 2019 #117

Is this whataboutism ? stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #127

Is Bezos running for President? mcar Apr 2019 #130

Trump said he'd release his too... Drunken Irishman Apr 2019 #158

Bezos pays on his personal income TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #169

They were dotted and crossed years ago as they were turned in. keithbvadu2 Apr 2019 #14

Yep Gothmog Apr 2019 #21

You can't dot any i's or cross any t's once returns have been filed. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #28

Great point grantcart Apr 2019 #80

Exactly. Cha Apr 2019 #102

But does he have to show us what he filed? Or can he remove stuff other than personal ID stuff? Blue_true Apr 2019 #124

If he redacts information he doesn't want to reveal, he's not releasing them. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #126

I totally agree. I really don't understand the "problems" he is having with releasing the returns. Blue_true Apr 2019 #131

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #15

But Bernie promised them three years ago. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #18

Three years should be enough time Gothmog Apr 2019 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author brandnewday2009 Apr 2019 #24

+1! eom BlueMTexpat Apr 2019 #56

For this thread Gothmog Apr 2019 #31

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #37

that is flat out bullshit dsc Apr 2019 #45

Have a donut before you leave. lapucelle Apr 2019 #54

It sure left in a hurry.. Cha Apr 2019 #139

The 8 posts from a DUer here since 2012 revmclaren Apr 2019 #145

Oh yeah? that's just weird! Cha Apr 2019 #146

It was... revmclaren Apr 2019 #148

Yes, April 2019...four years later. lapucelle Apr 2019 #57

"Sainted?" cwydro Apr 2019 #61

Now that's the most blatant bullshit I've seen posted today. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #89

Sanders has been promising to release his "soon" for three years. yardwork Apr 2019 #94

"Sainted HRC"? Of course you realize that she and President Clinton released dozens.... George II Apr 2019 #119

While sainted Bernie did not release his at all during that contest. Blue_true Apr 2019 #125

she also released them during the election she lost in 2008 JI7 Apr 2019 #147

Heres a nifty little tool Dazbog Apr 2019 #25

Not the same as full tax returns. ehrnst Apr 2019 #36

That's a Trumpian sleight of hand. You need the full returns. OnDoutside Apr 2019 #50

That's not a tax return. lapucelle Apr 2019 #60

Were all the t's crossed? lapucelle Apr 2019 #62

Here's an even niftier tool... lapucelle Apr 2019 #73

BOOM. ehrnst Apr 2019 #81

Uh huh mcar Apr 2019 #133

For that one he released, he first released only two pages (Form 1040)... George II Apr 2019 #157

Wow.. that is nifty! BS now says.. 4/15/19 is T day! Cha Apr 2019 #164

Interesting, there are 27 listed for Sanders for the years 2011 through 2017: George II Apr 2019 #156

agreed. he should. Tiggeroshii Apr 2019 #26

K and r. cwydro Apr 2019 #30

He said he was busy. Give him a break dalton99a Apr 2019 #32

Really? I heard it was "a few mechanical issues" ehrnst Apr 2019 #38

Spray it with WD-40 dalton99a Apr 2019 #39

.... ehrnst Apr 2019 #42

At this point BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #35

I think you are correct mcar Apr 2019 #134

Yea, enough says the Washington Post. gtar100 Apr 2019 #40

Actually the Post employs David Fahrenthold, you know the man who won a Pulitzer dsc Apr 2019 #47

Wow. You couldn't even be bothered to read the article? namahage Apr 2019 #49

Lotta good it did...peep. gtar100 Apr 2019 #63

Obviously. namahage Apr 2019 #72

I took the article at face value. gtar100 Apr 2019 #76

Um.... What "Washington Post" are you talking about? ehrnst Apr 2019 #51

Winner gtar100 Apr 2019 #67

.... ehrnst Apr 2019 #70

You rock! NurseJackie Apr 2019 #69

... ehrnst Apr 2019 #71

Everyone loves a good burn. gtar100 Apr 2019 #74

Agreed. He has no excuse not to release previous years taxes. Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #58

Is Bernie taking one out of the Trump playbook? redstateblues Apr 2019 #64

Advice to Bernie... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #65

For Heaven's sake, why is everyone yelling about Bernie not showing his tax returns. Only one of the Doitnow Apr 2019 #75

Candidates who have released tax returns so far include The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #82

Bernie has been running since 2015 treestar Apr 2019 #84

Sanders and Trump both didn't release it last time they ran JI7 Apr 2019 #114

Sanders' tax returns?? What the fuck about TRUMP'S tax returns??? HUH??? pangaia Apr 2019 #88

What the fuck about BOTH??? HUH??? MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #92

+10000 yardwork Apr 2019 #95

I agree with both pangaia Apr 2019 #120

The House Ways & Means committee has started the process today Gothmog Apr 2019 #93

YUP I saw that. And I agree BOTh should supply tax returns... pangaia Apr 2019 #121

BS getting VETTED!!! Cha Apr 2019 #103

Whataboutism mcar Apr 2019 #135

Hey There Bernie Me. Apr 2019 #96

Sanders said last Sunday that he's just dotting the I's and crossing the T's. How many years highplainsdem Apr 2019 #97

Once you've filed your returns there are no more I's to dot or T's to cross. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #106

I's and T's can be slippery suckers to corner. I'm thinking ten years. nt Blue_true Apr 2019 #128

But there are some on DU that claim that Bernie HAS released tax returns. Blue_true Apr 2019 #101

Where are they, then? Tacked to a bulletin board somewhere in Vermont? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #107

Tacked to the ride board at Burlington College. yardwork Apr 2019 #113

I think it's way to late Tribalceltic Apr 2019 #115

What is he going to say in debstes when all the wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #129

What is he hiding? lunamagica Apr 2019 #141

No Democratic candidate for president can effectively challenge President Trump about releasing his Gothmog Apr 2019 #142

It is troubling - one wonders why he's so obstinate on this point. KitSileya Apr 2019 #143

From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Apr 2019 #144

Brawaaaa.. WTG, Cha Apr 2019 #152

Is it possible to re-file separately AFTER a married couple has filed jointly? NurseJackie Apr 2019 #151

From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Apr 2019 #162

From Morning Joe Gothmog Apr 2019 #163

All Bernie is doing here is providing political cover for trump not releasing his tax returns Gothmog Apr 2019 #165

sanders also needs to file his 2016 FEC reports Gothmog Apr 2019 #166

"Especially if hes the frontrunner running on purity politics". Cha Apr 2019 #167

K Cha Apr 2019 #170

Bernie Sanders is "providing political cover" for Donald Trump not releasing his tax returns, Gothmog Apr 2019 #171

Stephanie Ruhl-Could Bernie Sanders' tax returns drive his supporters away? Gothmog Apr 2019 #172

For this thread Gothmog Apr 2019 #173