Washington Post-Enough with the excuses, It's time for Sanders to release his tax returns

[Gothmog]

Link to tweet

It has been more than a month since Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) told a national audience during a CNN town hall that he would release 10 years of his personal taxes “soon,” adding, “We have to do just a few little more things.” Five weeks later, it seems those “little” things still aren’t done; he told CBS on Sunday that “we have it all done and it’s just a question of dotting the i’s and crossing the t’s.”

Enough with the excuses, Senator. These sorts of shenanigans — and make no mistake, that’s exactly what they are at this point — both reduce the pressure on cowardly congressional Democrats to pursue President Trump’s personal and corporate tax returns, and endanger Democrats’ hopes of taking back the presidency in 2020. The progressive positions that Sanders champions, including Medicare-for-all, expanded Social Security and increasing the minimum wage to $15 an hour, are much too important to both the future of our country and our own personal finances to risk them over tax returns.

Trump broke with decades of precedent in refusing to make his tax returns public when he was running for president. The result? Not only don’t we know our president’s net worth, we also have little idea how he earned his fortune or how he makes his money now. Minus his paperwork, it’s hard to determine whether Trump is using the White House as a just-in-time moneymaking opportunity, violating the emoluments clause of the Constitution, and/or even paying his fair share of taxes at all.

[awesomerwb1]

1. Harsh

TuRbO tAx Is rEaLlY hArD to use guys! Come on!

Plus they ordered the toner from China and they said it's shipping "soon".

[Blue_true]

104. It is a special toner that allows inconvenient "imperfections" to disappear.

I like what you do with the capital and small letters, I think I have seen that technique somewhere though, soooo, copycat, little copycat. Where's YOUR tax returns?

[Maven]

2. What is Sanders hiding? nt

[Gothmog]

7. Look up Old Towne Media, LLC

[NurseJackie]

87. I did. It's very interesting. I wish I could say more about it...

... but for obvious reasons, I won't.

[Blue_true]

105. Look up the hack of the DNC campaign donor list and the claim that Hillary's people were spying.

It just all comes together, except one key principle then is not involved with a certain campaign. I guess going to a familiar well is a trained response.

[George II]

161. The Bennington Banner (local Vermont newspaper) had a very interesting article about them on 8/12/16

[cstanleytech]

59. Maybe nothing? We just do not know and the same goes for Trump.

After all Trump pretends to be someone worth alot of money but is that true and if so how much is he really worth? We just do not know.

[pangaia]

86. What is TRUMP hiding ???

[Cha]

99. BS and DT both need to show their tax returns..

10 years.

[pangaia]

122. I'll drink to that..

[jrthin]

132. Yes they do...tick-toc.

[George II]

159. The Washington Post article/editorial is about Sanders, not trump.

[peggysue2]

3. This issue isn't going away and . . .

the word 'soon' doesn't cover it. It's time for the Senator from Vermont to cough up the tax forms. He's had plenty of time and this op-ed writer is correct: the excuses are lame.

Personally, I don't think any candidate should be allowed on the debate stage until adequate tax forms and information are released. We have a grifter sitting in the WH right now, another tax release cry-baby.

Time to get real.

[Susan Calvin]

17. +1. nt

[azureblue]

68. Sure - right after Trump releases his

A bit hypocritical, aren't you?

[revmclaren]

83. Are you suggesting Sanders (I-VT)

Should should take his que from tRump?

Shouldn't he take the high ground here or are you suggesting he and Trump are on the same level?

It shouldn't take an act of Congress, as it will with tRump, for the good senator to release them.

I personally have more respect for Sanders (I-VT) and look forward to his doing the right thing.



ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

[MyOwnPeace]

153. OK, I'll answer that.

"Shouldn't he take the high ground here or are you suggesting he and Trump are on the same level?"

I will indeed suggest that BS and DT ARE on the same level.

What are you hiding? Why won't you release them to allow the public to have confidence in your claim for leadership?

[yardwork]

91. Are you serious?

[Blue_true]

109. I'm afraid so. Use Trump as a role model. Who would have thought? nt

[yardwork]

112. Whataboutism run amuck.

[George II]

160. As DEMOCRATS, we'll be choosing our nominee for the 2020 general election.

We won't be choosing the republican nominee. It's very important to us Democrats that we know everything we can to make an informed choice once the primaries begin next February.

I don't think Sanders' release of his income tax returns has anything to do with trump releasing his.

[Doitnow]

79. So far you'd only have one person on the stage. Why lean on just Bernie?

[revmclaren]

90. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)

Promised to release ALL the requested tax returns in 2016.

News Flash...

It's 2019!

That's the difference.

But you knew that.... You've been here long enough.



ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

[Blue_true]

110. What?

Even candidates that are NEW to presidential politics are releasing their tax returns pronto, one made a habit of releasing her's EVERY year of her political life. So far, only TWO people have not released a tax return for years, one of whom sane democrats want to defeat and remove from the Office of President.

[we can do it]

98. +1000

[Blue_true]

108. Nope, not this time.

The young people that are so inured with free college and ending income inequality need to open their eyes to sleight of hand behavior.

[jrthin]

137. +1000

[OnDoutside]

4. Once everyone else releases their tax returns, the pressure will be yuuuuuuge.

[pnwmom]

41. Bernie has had longer than everyone else to get his together,

because he promised he was doing this back in 2016.

[OnDoutside]

48. Ah in fairness, Jane was very busy at the time.

[pnwmom]

53. No she was a "little bit busy." Just like Bernie was a "little bit busy"

when his campaign was embroiled in sexual harassment claims.

[OnDoutside]

78. Yup and the media move on like they did with Trump's taxes

[sfwriter]

77. Yup

...still waiting.

[OnDoutside]

149. If Biden is in New Times, then Sanders is too, but will the media

lay off him again ?

[Blue_true]

111. Yep. nt

[oasis]

5. "Soon". That's the I.O.U. Bernie wants us to take to the bank.

[dawg day]

6. He sounds like Trump, and that's a problem.

We all file taxes, and we know, once they're filed, there's no 'dotting of i's and crossing of t's." They're filed. That's your return. It's official. You can't fiddle with it.
And it's not hard to release them. You have a paper copy, or you have an electronic copy, and if you don't have either, you can get a copy from the IRS or your state tax authority.


AT THE SAME TIME... if we're going to demand that every Dem candidate release tax returns, we must make a very big deal about Trump NOT releasing his. Nothing sticks with him, I know, but "What's he hiding?" should be asked every day of Trump. We know he and his campaign are entirely capable of the hypocrisy of combing through the opponent's returns and finding some tiny thing-- "You deducted your SUNGLASSES!" and making a federal case about it.

Unilateral release is counter-productive. Must beat on Trump about his refusal to release.

[Gothmog]

8. I fear that he is amending his prior joint returns to file individually without Jane on the return

This is a way to avoid disclosing who owns Old Towne Media, LLC

[Susan Calvin]

19. If he is,

That's it for me. Release them as filed. And I want them from every other candidate as well.

[WeekiWater]

33. It's my understanding that you can't.

It’s one of the few things you can’t do. I’m pretty certain of that. I thought he was doing the same thing and looked it up. I’m not a tax person. You can change from single to joint within a limited time.

[pnwmom]

43. Do returns have to be marked as amended returns or would he be able to hide that? n/t

[Gothmog]

52. The 2014 partial return released by sanders was a joint return

If any newly released tax returns are not joint returns, we know that there is an issue

[dawg day]

136. I once amended mine (a tax document arrived late)-

And it had an X in the number after that, for amended, I guess.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

27. Bernie might not be hiding anything - I'd like to think he isn't -

but his reticence at least makes one wonder. Wouldn't he be doing himself a favor by removing that little cloud of suspicion and turning them over?

[TexasBushwhacker]

168. Yup. If there's nothing to hide, why drag his feet

He got my primary vote in 2016. Not this time.

[Blue_true]

116. But if stuff from the publicly released tax returns "disappear", what can the IRS do about it?

I am not sure that the IRS will automatically come after someone for such a tactic. So dotting the "i's" may involve more that blotting out SS numbers, phone numbers and addresses on a publicly released return. One would assume that a person who has been a politician for almost 40 years would know the technique for releasing tax returns for public viewing. What's the holdup.

Either Bernie is hiding something big, OR he just doesn't believe that a politician should have to release his or her tax returns. If it is the latter, he should just come out and say it.

[jrthin]

138. If as you say...

"he just doesn't believe that a politician should have to release his or her tax returns," then it blows the mind as to his hypocrisy to demand that tRump release his taxes. Does BS have one set of rules for himself and another set for others?

[Blue_true]

140. I don't know the answer to your question.

I do know that as a front runner, he will get vetting that he didn't get in 2016.

[helpisontheway]

9. Hey Bernie..tell them you are being audited..It worked for the last guy. Nt 🙄

[workinclasszero]

10. It's way past time for Jeff Bezos to pay some damn taxes too

I guess that's why his personal newspaper is always out to get Bernie.

He said he will release them but will Bezos ever act like a human being and treat his employees with compassion and justice?

Oh hell no I'm sure.

[OilemFirchen]

11. Who thinks this type of deflection is an appropriate retort?

I know I've seen similar before.



Name's right on the tip of my trumgue...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. Whatabout whatabout whatabout....

Jeff Bezos isn't running for president, and the issue of whether he doesn't pay enough tax or treat his employees well enough has exactly zilch, zero, nada, to do with Bernie's failure to do exactly that which we've been justifiably screaming at Trump to do.

Show us your taxes, Bernie. Shit or get off the pot.

[Stuart G]

29. It really is that simple "Show us your taxes, Shit or get off the pot"

...Why wait?..They are being fixed so they look OK. (whatever that means)

..Here is the point: If Bernie's taxes did not look OK, they would have bee released immediately.

Is that correct?...You can answer with the correct answer if you have one..

.......What is wrong with Bernie's taxes?

[Kurt V.]

13. +1

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

20. Why are the alleged transgressions of Jeff Bezos even marginally relevant

to Bernie's tax returns?

[Kurt V.]

150. none. a part of amazon's business model was to not pay taxes. so when I'm reminded of it ,

i get irked, thus my unrelated +1

[Gothmog]

16. Is it soon yet?

Link to tweet

[Blue_true]

118. In Bernie years or regular years? nt

[WeekiWater]

34. This shows that even his most ardent supporters...

Know something shady is going on.

[pnwmom]

44. Is Bezos running for President, too? n/t

[workinclasszero]

46. Hell no he's already master of the universe

But he definitely doesn't want any mere mortal like Bernie Sanders threatening him with paying taxes, that's real obvious.

[MrsCoffee]

85. Well I guess that puts the majority of the Democratic candidates in his cross hairs.

Don't even try that tired propaganda that Bernie is the only one who wants to tax the rich.

[ehrnst]

154. +10000.

[ehrnst]

155. You mean like all Democrats in the House and Senate have been threatening?

Democratic lawmakers are proposing a pay raise for teachers, and they plan to pay for it by eliminating a tax cut for the top 1 percent of earners.

The proposal would give states and school districts more than $50 billion over the next 10 years to “increase teacher compensation and recruit and retain a strong, diverse workforce.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/388795-dems-want-to-scrap-tax-cut-for-rich-to-fund-teachers-raises

Senate Democrats are proposing one trillion dollars in higher taxes over the next ten years including a nearly $600 billion income tax increase, a business tax increase, an increase to the death tax, and a capital gains tax increase.

https://www.democrats.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Senate%20Democrats'%20Jobs%20and%20Infrastructure%20Plan.pdf

Bernie didn't originate, nor does he own, or soley hold the concept of taxing the rich. Why do you think that he caucuses with Democrats, as you like to point out, and uses Democratic party resources when he runs for POTUS.... We are the party of the people, not Wall Street.




And Bezos should have his sights set on the field of Democratic Candidates as well:

How Democrats Want to Tax the Rich

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2019-candidate-tax-proposals/

[BlueMTexpat]

55. When did Jeff Bezos announce

that he was running for President?

I must have missed that.

[MyNameGoesHere]

66. Oh noes!

The orange cheetolini and the Independent Senator from Vermont are being abused by Bezos and the Fake news WAPO. The horror.

[George II]

100. Jeff Bezos pays taxes, LOTS of taxes.

[Blue_true]

123. Bezos, like pretty much ALL publicly traded company CEOs get most salary as stock.

That allows the tax burden in the current year to be shifted to a future year at a lower tax rate. It is a common and legal practice. I read that Bezos' annual paycheck salary is only something like $100,000. But he can get, say $30 million, in stock for that same year. He shifts the tax burden on the $30 million from the top tax bracket to 15% by holding the stock for 2+ years. Since he has been CEO of Amazon from Day 1, every year he has millions in stock holdings meeting the longer that 2 years held standard every year and he can chose to cash the stock out at the lower rate, or hold it.

[Blue_true]

117. Change the subject much?

Bezos IS NOT running for President, where a public release of tax returns to show a person isn't dirty is expected.

BTW, the issue isn't Bezos paying his PERSONAL taxes. As best can be told, he has done that, abeit with the trick that ALL CEO's use of taking most of their salary as stock payments, allowing them to delay paying some income taxes while throwing the taxes that will be paid into a much lower tax bracket.

[stonecutter357]

127. Is this whataboutism ?

[mcar]

130. Is Bezos running for President?

[Drunken Irishman]

158. Trump said he'd release his too...

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/donald-trump-i-will-release-tax-returns-607836227723

That was in January of 2016 - over three years ago.

Just saying you're going to do it means nothing. Just do it.

And nice deflection with making this about Bezos lol

[TexasBushwhacker]

169. Bezos pays on his personal income

It's Amazon that's the tax dodger.

[keithbvadu2]

14. They were dotted and crossed years ago as they were turned in.

"dotting the i’s and crossing the t’s.”

They were dotted and crossed years ago as they were turned in.

[Gothmog]

21. Yep

Link to tweet

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. You can't dot any i's or cross any t's once returns have been filed.

Once they are submitted to the IRS they are done. If he's had to file amended returns for some reason all he has to do is say so, and produce them.

[grantcart]

80. Great point

[Cha]

102. Exactly.

[Blue_true]

124. But does he have to show us what he filed? Or can he remove stuff other than personal ID stuff?

If he removes stuff from the public copies, does the IRS even care.

My guess is Bernie is likely a millionaire several times over and has lots of investments, some in companies that he may be reticent to acknowledge having investments in. Personally, I am ok with a person having investment that he or she may be ashamed of, as long as they are legal and the person didn't personally invest the money (but rather had a fund company, Thrust or financial adviser make the investment without their involvement in selecting them (the adviser would only be required to follow a set of requirements that could have been loose enough to now be embarrassing).

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

126. If he redacts information he doesn't want to reveal, he's not releasing them.

The IRS doesn't care about that if they already have the returns, but releasing the returns to the public means releasing the information in them, even if it's embarrassing in some way. Otherwise it's meaningless.

[Blue_true]

131. I totally agree. I really don't understand the "problems" he is having with releasing the returns.

If you even casually read DU, you will see that his admirers here will follow him anywhere, maybe it is the free college thing or going after those rascally oligarchs. So almost nothing that could be released in his tax returns will dampen their love for him. Just look at their replies in this thread, hell I watched old video of him box, not even Smoking Joe Frazier bobbed and snorted as much to slip punches.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

18. But Bernie promised them three years ago.

If they were almost ready then, why are they not ready now? If they've already been filed there's nothing that can be changed or "tweaked." If he's lost his copies the IRS will supply new ones. I just don't see any reason why this hasn't been done.

[Gothmog]

22. Three years should be enough time

Link to tweet

[BlueMTexpat]

56. +1! eom

[Gothmog]

31. For this thread

Link to tweet

[ehrnst]

37. +1000. (nt)

[dsc]

45. that is flat out bullshit

She had released every return from 1974 until 2006 in 2007 or before when she ran the first time. She did the ones Politico is talking about in July of 2015. Bernie hasn't released one entire return ever. He released 2 pages of 2014.

[lapucelle]

54. Have a donut before you leave.

[Cha]

139. It sure left in a hurry..

without their donut!

lol

[revmclaren]

145. The 8 posts from a DUer here since 2012

made me go 'hmmmmm'

ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

[Cha]

146. Oh yeah? that's just weird!

the 8th post must have been a duzy!

[revmclaren]

148. It was...

Message auto-removed above was that poster.



ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

[lapucelle]

57. Yes, April 2019...four years later.

[cwydro]

61. "Sainted?"

Who did you vote for, I wonder?

[MrsCoffee]

89. Now that's the most blatant bullshit I've seen posted today.

We aren't a bunch of rubes here.

[yardwork]

94. Sanders has been promising to release his "soon" for three years.

[George II]

119. "Sainted HRC"? Of course you realize that she and President Clinton released dozens....

....of tax returns prior to July 2015, don't you? Plus she released many before her 2008 candidacy.

BTW, did you enjoy the nap?

[Blue_true]

125. While sainted Bernie did not release his at all during that contest.

By my count, Hillary released her returns almost four years before Bernie (since Bernie has not released what she did, the clock is still running on him).

[JI7]

147. she also released them during the election she lost in 2008

[Dazbog]

25. Heres a nifty little tool

Senate Financial Disclosure database

https://efdsearch.senate.gov/search/home/

I was able to find Bernies financial disclosure form through FY2018.

No huge surprises.

[ehrnst]

36. Not the same as full tax returns.

"Financial disclosure" is what Trump has provided

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4464412-Trump-Donald-J-2018Annual278.html


You're welcome.

[OnDoutside]

50. That's a Trumpian sleight of hand. You need the full returns.

[lapucelle]

60. That's not a tax return.

[lapucelle]

62. Were all the t's crossed?

[lapucelle]

73. Here's an even niftier tool...

It includes all candidates from 2016 and from 2020.



https://www.taxnotes.com/presidential-tax-returns

[ehrnst]

81. BOOM.

[mcar]

133. Uh huh

Your move, Sen Sanders.

[George II]

157. For that one he released, he first released only two pages (Form 1040)...

...and then later released five more pages (one of which had no entries), but still is not the complete return.

[Cha]

164. Wow.. that is nifty! BS now says.. 4/15/19 is T day!

Mahalo, lapucelle!

[George II]

156. Interesting, there are 27 listed for Sanders for the years 2011 through 2017:

Seven original reports
Eight requests for extensions (four for 2015)
Twelve amendments (five for 2013, four for 2014)

[Tiggeroshii]

26. agreed. he should.

and wapo is in their right to push the issue. but while that is going on, lets work on also sticking to the other pertinent policy discussions for the primary...

[cwydro]

30. K and r.

Sanders seems to be hiding something.

[dalton99a]

32. He said he was busy. Give him a break

[ehrnst]

38. Really? I heard it was "a few mechanical issues"

“We have to do just a few more little things,” Sanders, who announced last week that he would again seek the Democratic presidential nomination, said during the forum, aired on CNN. He added that a few “mechanical issues” remain but that the returns would be released “sooner rather than later.”

February 2018....

https://www.accountingtoday.com/articles/bernie-sanders-says-he-will-release-10-years-of-tax-returns-soon

[dalton99a]

39. Spray it with WD-40

He should give it a try

[ehrnst]

42. ....

[BlueFlorida]

35. At this point

whatever he releases will be suspicious as to authenticity.

It is already too late.

[mcar]

134. I think you are correct

His team really botched this. They made it an issue when it shouldn't have had to be.

[gtar100]

40. Yea, enough says the Washington Post.

Sanders ain't no republican so he has no excuse.


tRump's tax returns? Washington Post says...peep.

These fucking grandstanding republicans in journalist clothing are pathetic. They're so brave fighting for what's right when the target is a Democrat (Sanders, in this case, being an honorary member for the presidential run) but so feckless when it comes to republican malfeasance.

Sure, Sanders should release his tax returns to meet requirements but it just shows how little integrity these media companies have when it's obvious just how little and how poorly they covered tRump not ever releasing his tax returns...just one among his many crimes committed.

[dsc]

47. Actually the Post employs David Fahrenthold, you know the man who won a Pulitzer

for reporting on Trumps finances, including his not releasing tax returns.

[namahage]

49. Wow. You couldn't even be bothered to read the article?

Trump broke with decades of precedent in refusing to make his tax returns public when he was running for president. The result? Not only don’t we know our president’s net worth, we also have little idea how he earned his fortune or how he makes his money now. Minus his paperwork, it’s hard to determine whether Trump is using the White House as a just-in-time moneymaking opportunity, violating the emoluments clause of the Constitution, and/or even paying his fair share of taxes at all.

And that's not all! Google "trump tax returns site:washingtonpost.com" for about 26,100 results from WaPo's website alone.

[gtar100]

63. Lotta good it did...peep.

Enough...tRump needs to release his tax returns or....or....what! Easier to go after Democrats.

And stop looking over my shoulder while I'm reading.

[namahage]

72. Obviously.

Thankfully someone else did the hard work of looking through the 20000+ results present on WaPo’s site regarding Trump and tax returns

[gtar100]

76. I took the article at face value.

So shoot me. Oh wait, already done.

[ehrnst]

51. Um.... What "Washington Post" are you talking about?

The Democrats' big rollout begins now. It must include a real bid for Trump's tax returns.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/04/democrats-big-rollout-begins-now-it-must-include-real-bid-trumps-tax-returns/


Friendly reminder: We still haven’t seen Trump’s tax returns
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/friendly-reminder-we-still-havent-seen-trumps-tax-returns/2019/04/01/a6b4e340-54b9-11e9-8ef3-fbd41a2ce4d5_story.html


The silly ways Republicans will defend keeping Trump’s tax returns secret
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/03/05/silly-ways-republicans-will-defend-keeping-trumps-tax-returns-secret/

The case for getting Trump’s tax returns just got stronger — and more urgent
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/02/28/case-getting-trumps-tax-returns-just-got-stronger-more-urgent/

Democrats plan to request President Trump's tax returns in 2019. Here's how they'll do it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/18/when-how-we-might-see-president-trumps-tax-returns/

Pelosi says she expects a House committee will 'take the first steps' toward obtaining Trump's tax returns
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/pelosi-says-she-expects-a-house-committee-will-take-the-first-steps-toward-obtaining-trumps-tax-returns/2018/12/13/fbc02660-feec-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html

How Trump’s Tax Returns Could Become Public
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/how-trumpstax-returns-could-become-public/2019/02/06/aafdc8a6-2a78-11e9-906e-9d55b6451eb4_story.html


You're welcome.


Damn straight.



NEXT.

[gtar100]

67. Winner

[ehrnst]

70. ....

Apology accepted.

[NurseJackie]

69. You rock!

[ehrnst]

71. ...

Facts.: They're what's for dinner.

[gtar100]

74. Everyone loves a good burn.

Enjoy!

[Freethinker65]

58. Agreed. He has no excuse not to release previous years taxes.

Get out in front of whatever it is he thinks might cause concern and release them.

[redstateblues]

64. Is Bernie taking one out of the Trump playbook?

stall-delay-stall-delay

[Mike Nelson]

65. Advice to Bernie...

… get this out of the way, if you're ever going to release them. Your supporters will still be there... it can't be worse than Trump's. The media is so focused on Biden now, it might be a good time...

[Doitnow]

75. For Heaven's sake, why is everyone yelling about Bernie not showing his tax returns. Only one of the

candidates has done so so far. Why don't you lean on some of the others? Looks to me like you all are trying to conflate Bernie with Dump in any way you can. So long as there is the chance there is the possibility that Biden may enter the race, you can't very well say Bernie is too old----or else you'd be beating that drum. His message is right on and everyone running is singing part or most of his tune.

There's a world of difference between Bernie and the pResident.

By the way, how come so many people on this column say they are undeclared.

Proud to say I'm a Bernie supporter.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

82. Candidates who have released tax returns so far include

Gillibrand, Klobuchar, Inslee and Warren. That's more than one.

[treestar]

84. Bernie has been running since 2015

and never did reveal them the last time. The others so far can't be said to be prevaricating.

[JI7]

114. Sanders and Trump both didn't release it last time they ran

[pangaia]

88. Sanders' tax returns?? What the fuck about TRUMP'S tax returns??? HUH???

WaPo my ass

[MrsCoffee]

92. What the fuck about BOTH??? HUH???

Rep. Neal demanded six years of Trump's personal and business tax returns today from the I.R.S.

We're on it.

In the mean time why isn't Bernie being transparent? What needs "fixing" as he called it? Talk about WTF?

[yardwork]

95. +10000

[pangaia]

120. I agree with both

my point being maybe the NYT should be beating on trump day in and day out...

[Gothmog]

93. The House Ways & Means committee has started the process today

Link to tweet

[pangaia]

121. YUP I saw that. And I agree BOTh should supply tax returns...

My point was that the NYT should be beating away at trump day in and day out..

[Cha]

103. BS getting VETTED!!!

[mcar]

135. Whataboutism

[Me.]

96. Hey There Bernie

This is what's called being vetted. How do you like it?

[highplainsdem]

97. Sanders said last Sunday that he's just dotting the I's and crossing the T's. How many years

do you suppose he'll need for that?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

106. Once you've filed your returns there are no more I's to dot or T's to cross.

The IRS has them. They're done. So unless you file amended returns there's nothing else you can do.

[Blue_true]

128. I's and T's can be slippery suckers to corner. I'm thinking ten years. nt

[Blue_true]

101. But there are some on DU that claim that Bernie HAS released tax returns.

How could he have released those returns while dotting "i's" and crossing "t's". Something does not smell right with that kettle of fish.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

107. Where are they, then? Tacked to a bulletin board somewhere in Vermont?

[yardwork]

113. Tacked to the ride board at Burlington College.

[Tribalceltic]

115. I think it's way to late

More important to me is the fact that he has consistently lied about releasing them for so long. This is and should be the biggest deal!

That and the fact that he is not a Democratic Senator is also a huge factor for me.

[wasupaloopa]

129. What is he going to say in debstes when all the

other candidates have shown their tax returns.

[lunamagica]

141. What is he hiding?

[Gothmog]

142. No Democratic candidate for president can effectively challenge President Trump about releasing his

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[KitSileya]

143. It is troubling - one wonders why he's so obstinate on this point.

Of course we can only speculate, but I cannot think of any positive reasons why he has dodged releasing his tax returns for the last ten (or even just three) years - but there are plenty of more insidious reasons that come to mind.

- Is he ashamed of his earnings? Ashamed because they are too small (hardly likely, considering his political platform, but what do I know?)
- Or because they are too high? Embarrassing to be a millionaire when you rail against millionaires.
- Is he frantically changing them to hide damaging info? Things that will counter his political platform? Is his fortune invested on hated and reviled Wall Street, perhaps? In hedge funds or big pharma? Overseas?
- Or perhaps because he is running out the clock on tax evasion? The statute of limitations is three years, so if he has problems with his 2015 filings, that might be the reason.

Plenty of damaging reasons, but as I said, I cannot think of one positive reason to avoid releasing one's tax returns when it is expected of political candidates, and one's party (sic) is trying to build a case against a president who has plenty of nefarious economic dealings which the party hopes to expose thru the release of said president's tax returns.

[Gothmog]

144. From the Hoarse Whisperer

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[Cha]

152. Brawaaaa.. WTG,

Hoarse!

[NurseJackie]

151. Is it possible to re-file separately AFTER a married couple has filed jointly?

Could it be that the delay is because of how long it takes to re-rile separately? (And it's unclear if such a thing is possible.)

Are there questions about Jane's financial details that need to be separated from Bernie? And if so, people will still wonder what it is that is being hidden.

Why was Bernie willing to "sign off" on a joint tax return at the time? And why does he (or his campaign) now feel the need for a "do-over"?

What EXACTLY is going on? These are legitimate questions that people deserve the answers to.

I think it's time that Bernie Sanders live up to the "honesty and transparency" standards that he's always demanding of others.

[Gothmog]

162. From the Hoarse Whisperer

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[Gothmog]

163. From Morning Joe

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[Gothmog]

165. All Bernie is doing here is providing political cover for trump not releasing his tax returns

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[Gothmog]

166. sanders also needs to file his 2016 FEC reports

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[Cha]

167. "Especially if hes the frontrunner running on purity politics".

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[Cha]

170. K

[Gothmog]

171. Bernie Sanders is "providing political cover" for Donald Trump not releasing his tax returns,

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[Gothmog]

172. Stephanie Ruhl-Could Bernie Sanders' tax returns drive his supporters away?

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[Gothmog]

173. For this thread

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