2016 Postmortem

NCTraveler

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37. Their replies make it clear they don't understand gerrymandering and voter suppression...

Thu Jan 19, 2017, 08:05 AM

Jan 2017

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didn't just start this cycle. It's a big problem and goes back throughout the time-frame they keep talking about. They think just blurting out 10 to 15 years somehow mitigates the voter suppression and gerrymandering argument. It shows a lack of understanding. Please don't get me wrong, I think we have other issues as well. I just don't get that they won't even recognize the depth of the problem. And that is what they are doing.

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It won't make the problems go away [View all] zipplewrath Jan 2017 OP

Then what were they doing in the states election board's computers?? shraby Jan 2017 #1

It's not a choice BETWEEN dealing with voter suppression OR recognizing that the party is in crisis. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #6

If a party loses due to voter suppression and/or russian infilitration and/or FBI meddling boston bean Jan 2017 #9

That didn't happen in Wisconsin forthemiddle Jan 2017 #11

That is EXACTLY what Pat McCrory did in NC, too. DMVs never processed voter registrations blm Jan 2017 #46

RT bullshit was being spread here pretty thickly- and some people still buy that crap... bettyellen Jan 2017 #2

+1 nt JTFrog Jan 2017 #3

Yep. Pretty much. HassleCat Jan 2017 #4

We picked up seats in the House and Senate AJH032 Jan 2017 #5

CA is doing great. Starry Messenger Jan 2017 #7

+1 nt JTFrog Jan 2017 #8

for the last 10 years? zipplewrath Jan 2017 #21

Do you know the history of redistricting? Starry Messenger Jan 2017 #26

And so how did we get there? zipplewrath Jan 2017 #29

Read, the, date. Starry Messenger Jan 2017 #34

wish I could zipplewrath Jan 2017 #35

But someone did undermine our candidates. How about adopting this unoffical rule: FSogol Jan 2017 #10

Excellent Post. Excellent. Justice Jan 2017 #12

Yeah, because candidates will always run against the person who isn't in the race. zipplewrath Jan 2017 #17

We can't. There a lot of us here who can't admit our campaign was less than perfect. dionysus Jan 2017 #13

And you win the thread and the 2016 Postmortem Forum Lurks Often Jan 2017 #14

I don't know if bernie could have won the GE, but i figure he would have stood just a good dionysus Jan 2017 #18

Will Bernie run for President again - NO! - So what's your point? CajunBlazer Jan 2017 #50

You mistake me for someone who care what a conservadem thinks, gush gallop aside. dionysus Jan 2017 #52

The label "far left" has little to do with their objectives - it's their mind set CajunBlazer Jan 2017 #55

When you start creating strawman and shove words in other people's mouths, you lose credibility. emulatorloo Jan 2017 #58

Excellent. I agree, those are my thoughts exactly. justhanginon Jan 2017 #54

+1 nt riderinthestorm Jan 2017 #59

Agreed - a decent post-election write-up here: jonno99 Jan 2017 #15

This is the fundamental problem. zipplewrath Jan 2017 #16

Comey did undermine all candidates. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #19

Last 10 years zipplewrath Jan 2017 #20

Gerrymandering and voter suppression?! We just going to ignore those factors now? tia uponit7771 Jan 2017 #24

no, but zipplewrath Jan 2017 #25

When did I say he was responsible for it all? NCTraveler Jan 2017 #36

We didn't focus down the ticket since 2008 crazycatlady Jan 2017 #40

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #23

BULL FUCKIN SHIT !!! Comey, Voter suppression and Russia all the rest of the postmortems are guessin uponit7771 Jan 2017 #22

Try again zipplewrath Jan 2017 #27

Gerrymandering and voter suppression?! We just going to ignore those factors now? tia uponit7771 Jan 2017 #30

no, we're going to disucss them zipplewrath Jan 2017 #32

Their replies make it clear they don't understand gerrymandering and voter suppression... NCTraveler Jan 2017 #37

+1, we've got to do the 50 state thing all county thing ... without voter suppression and uponit7771 Jan 2017 #39

As a Floridian, I get the enormous importance of local elections and gerrymandering. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #41

OK, zip - how long have firms like Crosscheck been around and used by GOP vote suppression machine? blm Jan 2017 #49

Crosscheck blocked the votes of hundreds of thousands in swing states. That is the BIGGEST reason. blm Jan 2017 #28

For the last 10 years+? zipplewrath Jan 2017 #31

You weren't around when Florida purged voter rolls before 2000 election? Crosscheck was another, and blm Jan 2017 #43

Again zipplewrath Jan 2017 #33

Or we could expose and SUE Crosscheck and those states implementing Crosscheck. blm Jan 2017 #44

Stop attacking Dems. joshcryer Jan 2017 #38

Yes! Republicans are the problem, not Democrats. betsuni Jan 2017 #42

I'd argue '06 and '02 were worse, and that's just from recent memory Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #45

The subject of how to improve the party isn't banned for discussion. geek tragedy Jan 2017 #47

Did anyone forward the premise that removing and replacing one forum LanternWaste Jan 2017 #48

No zipplewrath Jan 2017 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author stonecutter357 Jan 2017 #51

A Coup Is Underway otohara Jan 2017 #53

Repeatedly picking at the scab BainsBane Jan 2017 #56