2016 Postmortem

StevieM

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63. 8 years? Are you giving up on winning the 2020 election? (eom)

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NBC News: How Bernie Sanders Avoided Disclosing His Personal Finances [View all] George II Jan 2017 OP

I noticed this at the time and am sure he knew exactky how to access the records bravenak Jan 2017 #1

Why bother since Trump didn't. It must not be that important. UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #2

Trump filed his required Personal Financial Disclosure, but didn't release his income tax returns. George II Jan 2017 #3

Bernie Sanders filed his FEC forms UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #12

That was his statement of candidacy. Every candidate is required by law to also file.... George II Jan 2017 #13

Sanders never filed his financial disclosures Gothmog Jan 2017 #55

so what？ UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #61

So, if it's wrong and dishonest and shady when Trump does it, it's the same when others do it. synergie Jan 2017 #64

So what No one is holding Trump to this standard. Are They? UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #85

No but Hillary was and then some SticksnStones Jan 2017 #94

So you're saying that if Trump gets away with lying, being shady and going back on his word, synergie Jan 2017 #130

Being just as unethical as trump is not a good standard to use here Gothmog Jan 2017 #149

So what? If Federal law that all Federal candidates file Personal Financial Disclosures.... George II Jan 2017 #68

So What? No one care about standards. Trump proves that! UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #86

No doubt, that's the narrative you use to dismiss and trivialize concerns LanternWaste Jan 2017 #99

If it is good enough for Trump it is good enough for Bernie! UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #158

So Sanders was not being honest about being transparent Gothmog Jan 2017 #112

NEWS AUG 18 2016, 12:45 PM ET tecelote Jan 2017 #4

Some unfortunately need to go that far back for dirt on Bernie NWCorona Jan 2017 #27

"that far back"? It was only a few months ago and he skirted around Federal law. George II Jan 2017 #69

That was a little tongue and cheek on my part as it does seem like a lifetime ago NWCorona Jan 2017 #72

Well, I've been called an extreme left wing liberal (at times "commie", which is so passe)... George II Jan 2017 #74

Who Cares? Trump has so much dirt on him and who brings that up? UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #87

It makes me think of another news story from some time ago. QC Jan 2017 #70

That story is one that I come back to quite a bit lately. NWCorona Jan 2017 #73

Far back is his book about WhiteTara Jan 2017 #103

You can go back that far as I know that those stories are a hard pill for some to swallow. NWCorona Jan 2017 #107

Are you kidding? Trump had a two foot thick oppo book on Sanders that would have destroyed him Gothmog Jan 2017 #121

How is it Bernie Bashing? He failed to do what he repeatedly said he would, synergie Jan 2017 #66

Who Cares? Trump never does what he says he will do. Why hold bernie to a higher standard? UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #88

We'll never be wrong if we predicate our ethics on the lowest common denominator LanternWaste Jan 2017 #100

So your position isthat if Trump gets by with something, then it is okay for Sanders to do the same? Gothmog Jan 2017 #122

Seems like you're holding Bernie to a LOWER standard. I hold Bernie to his own word, synergie Jan 2017 #127

Good, Good, let the hate flow through you! Chasstev365 Jan 2017 #5

Because Sanders is pure as new-fallen snow, right? baldguy Jan 2017 #23

And he is Saint Bernie WhiteTara Jan 2017 #104

Have you bought his latest book yet? Gothmog Jan 2017 #56

Without campy and tired movie quotes, many people would be unable to add anything of substance. LanternWaste Jan 2017 #101

In Other News, A New World Record... OneBlueDotBama Jan 2017 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author George II Jan 2017 #7

Not a world record, last summer one was sent to a candidate that was 600 pages. George II Jan 2017 #9

I remember this also Gothmog Jan 2017 #123

FYI: George II Jan 2017 #11

Disgusting. yardwork Jan 2017 #8

2016 fec summary juxtaposed Jan 2017 #10

Those documents are for the Campaign Committee. Every candidate for Federal office... George II Jan 2017 #15

you know what i'm pretty sure they wouldn't find in his account? 200 thousand dollar deposits from dionysus Jan 2017 #14

What candidate had "200 thousand dollar deposits from goldman sachs"? George II Jan 2017 #16

sorry, it was more. she actually got $675,000 from goldman sachs for 3 speeches. link included. dionysus Jan 2017 #17

She wasn't a candidate at the time. But since you're digging up "dirt", do you or anyone know... George II Jan 2017 #19

Miles Kailburn and Vallene Kailburn NWCorona Jan 2017 #36

Tad Devine has owned up to being part owner. I wonder who placed $64M in media buys from them? George II Jan 2017 #37

Where has he owned up to that? If you are trying to make a point you should start with that NWCorona Jan 2017 #39

Here, and the rest of the article is interesting, too: George II Jan 2017 #41

That's not him admitting that he's a part owner. That's him saying that he's splitting NWCorona Jan 2017 #44

I should have said he has "very close ties" to the mysterious Old Towne Media LLC. George II Jan 2017 #45

Yes the article notes that he worked with the founders but I still don't see NWCorona Jan 2017 #47

When real estate is sold, both realtors get paid, one by the seller, the other by the buyer. George II Jan 2017 #49

And sometimes both Realtors split the 3% instead of the combined 6% NWCorona Jan 2017 #51

I think you need to bail on this thread and read up. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #71

Sorry, that's not the way it worked in the seven real estate sales in which I've been involved. George II Jan 2017 #75

Then you got screwed. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #77

I didn't get screwed, maybe the brokers involved "got screwed"? Doubt it but.... George II Jan 2017 #78

This article goes in to some depth about who received commissions Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #79

Not really. George II Jan 2017 #118

I am in the process of closing a sale within the month of my own property. Bohunk68 Jan 2017 #84

And therein lies the problem with Old Towne Media, which handled upwards of $100 million.. George II Jan 2017 #146

I would think that the truth will come out soon enough NWCorona Jan 2017 #153

Time will tell Gothmog Jan 2017 #160

If I was to guess I'd say that he leveraged their assets with the NWCorona Jan 2017 #162

I thought Devine had handled Sanders's advertising. lapucelle Jan 2017 #133

Devine only took one-half of the 15% commissions Gothmog Jan 2017 #150

That's an awful lot of $27 donations. lapucelle Jan 2017 #152

It takes a large number of $27 donations to pay for a $600,000 third home Gothmog Jan 2017 #154

How do you know? yardwork Jan 2017 #18

because he has a penis dsc Jan 2017 #22

I remember reading Bayard Jan 2017 #20

We don't know what his net worth is now, he refused to file his FEC mandated disclosure. George II Jan 2017 #21

What about the $600,000 third home he just bought? Gothmog Jan 2017 #125

Hillary paid an immense price for being open about her personal finances dsc Jan 2017 #24

You can have this point if you want but the last two paragraphs in the link explain a lot NWCorona Jan 2017 #25

And we're all waiting for that with bated breath. George II Jan 2017 #29

May 15th will be here soon enough. NWCorona Jan 2017 #31

Yes, as was June 30 and then August 15 last year. George II Jan 2017 #33

Yup NWCorona Jan 2017 #34

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #26

I don't recall anyone saying he owned two mansions or even a mention of what kind of car... George II Jan 2017 #35

So what is this story really about? Why is it being posted today? underthematrix Jan 2017 #28

What foreign outlet are you talking about? George II Jan 2017 #38

Thank you for pointing out my error underthematrix Jan 2017 #43

Bernie Sanders must be doing something right for them to go after him like this. AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #30

This article is from August of 2016 Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #32

Oh. I didn't notice the date....b/c...wtf would anyone post this then? AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #40

+1 SMDH nt riderinthestorm Jan 2017 #95

Clinton should have hit Sanders more on this issue hollowdweller Jan 2017 #42

It's definitely fair game. NWCorona Jan 2017 #48

I can't believe you folks are still rehashing this shit. Vinca Jan 2017 #46

A good reminder of his duplicity. Thank you. n/t R B Garr Jan 2017 #50

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #52

Who cares. He lost and Hillary lost kimbutgar Jan 2017 #53

8 years? Are you giving up on winning the 2020 election? (eom) StevieM Jan 2017 #63

Where are Sanders tax returns? Gothmog Jan 2017 #54

What's that word for when the person is hammering on Cha Jan 2017 #57

That is EXACTLY what this is all about, thanks! George II Jan 2017 #59

You're Cha Jan 2017 #67

he is not resident elect. IS HE? WTF. eyes on the con man please. pansypoo53219 Jan 2017 #58

Why ask about this，when you got the biggest liar called Trump to worry about？ UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #60

Most fans insist that 14 summary was actually releasing his taxes- bettyellen Jan 2017 #62

why the hell is anyone at NBC looking into this???????? Takket Jan 2017 #65

Joediss Joediss Jan 2017 #76

JFC, this is old bullshit. Trump's our focus now. Fuck the primaries Arazi Jan 2017 #80

Thanks for making clear he didn't do anything wrong. Motown_Johnny Jan 2017 #81

Bernie hate is awesome at digging up 5 month old articles aikoaiko Jan 2017 #82

Have bought Sanders latest book yet? Gothmog Jan 2017 #102

"Bernie hate is awesome at digging up 5 month old articles", as opposed to "Hillary Hate".... George II Jan 2017 #106

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #108

How pleasant of you, I'm sure you're proud. George II Jan 2017 #110

Sanders needs to file an updated financial report in May Gothmog Jan 2017 #111

I know you are. Please do make an OP and report the results. Maybe 5 OPs saying the same thing. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #113

BTW who are the owners of Old Town Media? Gothmog Jan 2017 #115

I love it when you take the mask off and show yourself. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #116

The May 2017 FEC reports will be interesting Gothmog Jan 2017 #119

May they be all that you want. What do you want them to say? aikoaiko Jan 2017 #126

It may explain where the money came from for Sanders to buy a $600,000 third home? Gothmog Jan 2017 #128

They may show that the "common man" who lives frugally, washes his own clothes, and.... George II Jan 2017 #131

I think you should bigger. Maybe payments from Trump's campaign. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #132

The truth about where Sanders got the money to pay for the house will be sufficient Gothmog Jan 2017 #136

There is evidently $4.5 million to $6 million of tv ad commissions unaccounted for Gothmog Jan 2017 #137

We may learn more about that once Sanders files his FEC Personal Financial Disclosure on May 15 George II Jan 2017 #117

I am curious as to how Sanders can now afford three houses Gothmog Jan 2017 #120

Me too. The latest, which was purchased only days after he officially was no longer a candidate.... George II Jan 2017 #124

Here's some more insight into "Old Towne Media".... George II Jan 2017 #135

There are a ton of questions being raised by this shell company Gothmog Jan 2017 #138

Wow, that is interesting! The comments after are devastating and sound like people R B Garr Jan 2017 #139

It would not surprise me one bit if between now and next year Sanders decided not to run again. George II Jan 2017 #140

I also would not be surprised Gothmog Jan 2017 #151

I think that is more likely than not. He is very divisive and I bet going forward R B Garr Jan 2017 #157

Wow. This OP and the replies... JNelson6563 Jan 2017 #83

Yeah, why are we only worried about the Democratic candidates conduct???? Trump does worse things UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #89

Nobody is ignoring Trump, but nice try. nt JTFrog Jan 2017 #91

No, it wasn't a nice try. randome Jan 2017 #92

Let's talk about Trump and his lies then. UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #93

We get 2 months of OP's trashing Hillary and where she went wrong, ignoring Russia, Comey, etc, JTFrog Jan 2017 #90

Well to worry about Bernie is a waste of time when you have Trump in a position to do some very real UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #96

Wouldn't that same reasoning apply to trashing Hillary? yardwork Jan 2017 #97

... emulatorloo Jan 2017 #109

Are you daring to imply that there is a double standard at work here? Gothmog Jan 2017 #129

lulz Rex Jan 2017 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Jan 2017 #105

Sanders admitted that he was in the Democratic primary for money and media coverage Gothmog Jan 2017 #114

And what does this have to do with anything? HassleCat Jan 2017 #134

I bet he's getting tens of millions from Goldman Sachs without even having to give speeches! jalan48 Jan 2017 #141

If he did, he's the only one who did. George II Jan 2017 #142

Oh yeah! jalan48 Jan 2017 #143

So who else did? George II Jan 2017 #144

Uh-you know who! jalan48 Jan 2017 #145

Yes I do, no one. But if you're going to make rash, vague accusations, you could be more specific. George II Jan 2017 #147

Ah-I think I see what you mean-my apologies. jalan48 Jan 2017 #148

Hillary disclosed her tax returns right up front Cha Jan 2017 #155

We will never see Sanders tax returns Gothmog Jan 2017 #161

He knew he'd lose anyway, so he got away with this hypocrisy. Lil Missy Jan 2017 #156

so why did he do this? Just to avoid awkward questions about his wealth? Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #159