2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: In which states would Bernie have done better or worse.. [View all]NCDem777
(458 posts)trying to chase after mythical rightwing voters who don't believe in every conspiracy theory that has ever been written.
Those rightwing voters do not factually exist.
The establishment Dems HAD their chance. The only time they win is when Repukes shoot themselves in the foot. Here's a list of Establishment "victories" since we tried the "Third Way" (IE being more polite Randians)
Bill Clinton won because of Republican incompetence. Once because Bush Sr. reneged on his No New Taxes pledge and once because Bob Dole was a terrible candidate. Barack Obama won because we were tired of Bush's warmongering and all around stupidity. He beat Romney because conservatives stayed home on account of him not being conservative enough for their tastes.
But when we went full tilt progressive in 06-08, we cleaned house.
The "establishment" can't win unless the Republicans screw themselves first. Not sustainable.
Just nominate an actual progressive. There's no Dem we could possibly nominate that will appeal to the nutters no matter how far right they swung. All trying to appeal to those assholes does is alienate actual progressives. All bending over backwards to compromise with conspiracy theorists accomplishes is give up everything we want and get not a damn thing in return.
Lilly livered blue poodles should not have any leadership positions in the Dem party. We tried their way. They failed horribly.