2016 Postmortem

oberliner

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40. There's really no way of knowing that

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #26)

Sat Dec 17, 2016, 11:45 PM

Dec 2016

The problem with ZT might have been that she was not actually from the area.

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Zephyr Teachout lost in NY-19 [View all] Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 OP

She was targeted with a lot of late money BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #1

Thanks BeyondGeograhy! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #3

Actually, I think Yandik is more the prototype BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #8

Well, here in NY 1 we lost worse than you guys did... TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #2

Yes, you trash your opponents and then it become irreconcilable. Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #4

A more nuanced view: Clinton/supporters insultingly marginalized Bernie and his supporters. JudyM Dec 2016 #10

And vice-versa. Try not to put all the blame on one side. TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #13

Take another look at your own post... blaming "the loser" while claiming to be blaming the process. JudyM Dec 2016 #14

Because the loser pooped sour grapes for almost four months after the loss.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #23

Brava child! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #30

Aww shucks, you honor me She! What is with this shocked reaction to bettyellen Dec 2016 #33

SMH... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #34

Same people just getting bolder - making up CTs about Dems and ..... bettyellen Dec 2016 #35

+1 NCTraveler Dec 2016 #59

Really. Good grief.. Thank you, TBastard! Cha Dec 2016 #47

She was targeted by Trump's chief financial backer Robert Mercer and Tanuki Dec 2016 #5

Citizen's United is a powerful tool for the rich and powerful andym Dec 2016 #15

Did Hillary get more votes than her or the same or less? La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #6

Well, Hillary lost by 10% and Teachout lost by 9%, so... TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #7

Her vote share was twelve points higher than that of the previous Democratic candidate. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #9

In 2012, the Democratic candidate only lost by 5 points oberliner Dec 2016 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Dec 2016 #11

Blame a Dem bingo! bettyellen Dec 2016 #24

We aren't forbidden to make any critical comments at all about any Democratic politicians. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #25

So without any evidence you blame her loss on a fellow Dem? bettyellen Dec 2016 #27

I asked a legitimate question. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #36

You made up a CT out of whole cloth. Is that smart in this era of BS disinformation? bettyellen Dec 2016 #37

I know, right.. no evidence whatsoever. Cha Dec 2016 #48

ALL I see here on DU is bash a Dem. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #32

Discussion is not "bashing". Ken Burch Dec 2016 #38

Honest conversation... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #39

Accusations of rat fucking are not simple questioning- they're bullshit smears like the crap we saw bettyellen Dec 2016 #49

Yup La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #57

Yours is not a critical comment, it's a baseless La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #43

There's an incredible immaturity in this need to have everyone suspect unless they're the Sanders bettyellen Dec 2016 #51

Also cuomo is an effective governor La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #53

And they slam him for working with Republicans but it's okay when Bernie does with that freak Trump. bettyellen Dec 2016 #55

He couldn't have helped her. First off I doubt she wanted his help and hrmjustin Dec 2016 #46

At least she came closer than before in that district mvd Dec 2016 #12

Julian Schreibman was much closer in 2012 oberliner Dec 2016 #17

Ok, I stand corrected then. I was going by another post here mvd Dec 2016 #18

I thought she would win oberliner Dec 2016 #19

Yep, there were some good things like.. mvd Dec 2016 #20

2018 looks a bit scary as well oberliner Dec 2016 #21

Well, on the bright side, Trump should be a disaster for the Repukes mvd Dec 2016 #22

A non-progressive Dem would have made exactly the same showing. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #26

There's really no way of knowing that oberliner Dec 2016 #40

Good article on Teachout/Faso here BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #28

I'm an outsider, but after reading that the seat had been won by a Republican... CBHagman Dec 2016 #29

I didn't think she was going to win. That district has more RW parts to it and when they hrmjustin Dec 2016 #31

This is Kirsten Gillibrand's old district right? crazycatlady Dec 2016 #58

No. This is a lower Hudson Valley district. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #62

I thought Sean Patrick Maloney was the lower Hudson Valley crazycatlady Dec 2016 #66

You are right! The 19th is apart of the lower half of Kristen's old district. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #67

She should have run in Brooklyn Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2016 #41

Am wondering why she didn't? She lives and works there. Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #42

No open districts to run in. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #45

Velazquez is useless Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2016 #50

I can not say she makes an impression but her constituents keep sending her back. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #54

Anthony Weiner could still be elected in that district Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2016 #56

No. First his old district has been redrawn and after he resigned the GOP won the district. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #61

I'm being sarcastic, but in November the 7th district went for us 90% Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2016 #63

Point taken. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #64

I don't know much about her crazycatlady Dec 2016 #44

I'm not a fan, but she would have been a strong candidate in the right district Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2016 #52

Besides Brooklyn where else in NY would have been a good place for ZT to run? Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #60

She would have done fine anywhere urban Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2016 #65