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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernies Press Secretary To Supporters: We Lost Fair & Square, ZERO Election Fraud [View all]Gothmog
(154,498 posts)79. Sanders lost even though the Clinton campaign treated him with kid gloves
Sanders was never a real threat to get the nomination and so the Clinton campaign treated sanders with kid gloves. VOX had a good article on the potential lines of attack that Sanders would be exposed to if Sanders was the nominee. http://www.vox.com/2016/2/3/10903404/gop-campaign-against-sanders One of the more interesting observations in the VOX analysis is the fact that Sanders have been treated with kids gloves compared to what Sanders would face if he was the Democratic nominee. I strongly agree with the VOX's position that the so-called negative attacks against Sander have been mild. Form the article:
I have no interest in litigating any of these attacks here. Like any Democrat elected president in 2016, Sanders wouldn't be able to get much done, but he would block attempts to roll back Obama's accomplishments and have a chance to fill a few Supreme Court vacancies.
When Sanders supporters discuss these attacks, though, they do so in tones of barely contained outrage, as though it is simply disgusting what they have to put up with. Questioning the practical achievability of single-payer health care. Impugning the broad electoral appeal of socialism. Is nothing sacred?
But c'mon. This stuff is patty-cakes compared with the brutalization he would face at the hands of the right in a general election.
His supporters would need to recalibrate their umbrage-o-meters in a serious way.
When Sanders supporters discuss these attacks, though, they do so in tones of barely contained outrage, as though it is simply disgusting what they have to put up with. Questioning the practical achievability of single-payer health care. Impugning the broad electoral appeal of socialism. Is nothing sacred?
But c'mon. This stuff is patty-cakes compared with the brutalization he would face at the hands of the right in a general election.
His supporters would need to recalibrate their umbrage-o-meters in a serious way.
The attacks that would be levied against Sanders by the Kochs, the RNC candidate and others in a general election contest would make the so-called attacks against Sanders look like patty-cakes. The GOP and Kochs are not known for being nice or honest and as the article notes there are a ton of good topics available for attack. Raising taxes is never a good campaign platform (Just ask President Mondale). The GOP would also raise the socialism and age issues if Sanders was the nominee.
Again, I agree with the VOX position that so far, Sanders has not been subject to negative attacks close to what the GOP would use against Sanders and the attacks against Sanders if he was the nominee would be brutal. I urge Sanders supporters to read the VOX article to start to get a feel for what real negative attacks would look like.
The Clinton campaign had a ton of material that could have been used against sanders and was not solely because Sanders had zero chance of being the nominee. Sanders would have been destroyed by trump in the general election
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Bernies Press Secretary To Supporters: We Lost Fair & Square, ZERO Election Fraud [View all]
Cha
Dec 2016
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I really appreciated her activities and statements throughout the General Election campaign....
George II
Dec 2016
#95
Make that "several", not "many". He didn't even start until about a week after Labor Day, after....
George II
Dec 2016
#109
Yeah, they say "because of the DNC", but who hacked the DNC and stole Clinton's voter contact info..
George II
Dec 2016
#13
I wouldn't agree with that. Super Delegates are a biased system. For everyone calling for the end
Exilednight
Dec 2016
#91
Huh. Interesting. I guess you never saw the Hillary bashing, and maybe you choose to ignore
Maru Kitteh
Dec 2016
#48
Uretsky was recommended by the DNC and NGP VAN. The breach occurred because of NGP VAN
think
Dec 2016
#73
So? Yes, we've heard that a number of times. That doesn't mean he DIDN'T hack....
George II
Dec 2016
#75
Uretsky didn't hack anything. The company left the firewall down AGAIN. No data was downloaded
think
Dec 2016
#77
When one accessed data without permission and copied it, that person stole the data.
George II
Dec 2016
#78
I started receiving emails from Hillary's campaign at the same time. Imagine that.
think
Dec 2016
#80
Damn.. come to think of it I was all of a sudden getting emails from BS, too.. I had to
Cha
Dec 2016
#49
Of course there was no election fraud...just another baseless smear on Hillary
lunamagica
Dec 2016
#15
There is so much denial here at DU. The real reason for Hillary's loss truly evades you.
FourScore
Dec 2016
#27
I voted for Hillary, and I tried to convince others to. The problem has NOT been me
FourScore
Dec 2016
#34
Oh good grief! Seriously? Gee, why DID they need to resign? Boggles the mind, doesn't it?
FourScore
Dec 2016
#39
pnwmom, I don't see how this helps. I am not going to start educating you on the DNC emails.
FourScore
Dec 2016
#44
They resigned because people believe what they want to believe regardless of facts
mythology
Dec 2016
#71
OFFS, Symone Sanders quit on June 26, 2016, she was not asked to leave. Bernie's campaign was over.
SunSeeker
Dec 2016
#50
Way to try and spread false rumors and not a very good attempt to kill the messenger of something
Cha
Dec 2016
#51
I don't know. I just ignore it and move on. Some are just way off base
Feeling the Bern
Dec 2016
#58
To be honest, I felt dirty voting for her. But, in my mind, but vote was a protest vote
Feeling the Bern
Dec 2016
#60
Can't believe people are harping on this...smh. primaries have been long over. Let it go already
AgadorSparticus
Dec 2016
#88
My god, really? The world is about to go up in flames and they are worried about...THIS?!?!!??
AgadorSparticus
Dec 2016
#90
Generally, unless you're Trump, the best part about election fraud, is that the person
JCanete
Dec 2016
#107