2016 Postmortem

NJCher

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33. these sanctimonious claims

Sun Dec 4, 2016, 01:26 AM

Dec 2016

serve some psychological purpose because there are so many of them around. Staying in denial only assures republican wins for the foreseeable future, so if that's what you want, continue to bury your heads in the sand.

This kind of OP is a straw man, a logical fallacy. Say something that's not even pertinent, pretend it is the issue, don't even back it up with facts or figures (a true effrontery), and then everyone jump on the bandwagon saying "hear, hear."

Thank you, FourScore, for posting this link, because this is what the real issue is. The underlying, essential issue is that Bernie was handicapped at every step of the way--and he still turned out millions all over the country. Poll after poll, survey after survey showed that he would have beat Trump hands down.

I'm not buying into these pathetic attempts to remake history. It's actually disgusting to see people try to evade responsibility for their actions, especially when they were warned.

Cher

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Bernies Press Secretary To Supporters: We Lost Fair & Square, ZERO Election Fraud [View all] Cha Dec 2016 OP

Bernie's a class act. Thanks for posting. hueymahl Dec 2016 #1

This is from his Press Sec Symone Sanders who is indeed Cha Dec 2016 #2

She's a class act too! hueymahl Dec 2016 #4

I really appreciated her activities and statements throughout the General Election campaign.... George II Dec 2016 #95

Was she? I didn't realized that.. thank you for Cha Dec 2016 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #102

Make that "several", not "many". He didn't even start until about a week after Labor Day, after.... George II Dec 2016 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #101

Oh my! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #3

Thank you, she.. I see this is being assidiously avoided. Cha Dec 2016 #5

Some don't like facts Cha. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #6

HA! It finally got Cha Dec 2016 #7

You Rock! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #9

lol Cha Dec 2016 #10

K&R. TexasTowelie Dec 2016 #8

Gracias Texas! Of course Hillary WON the Primary Fair and Square Cha Dec 2016 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Dec 2016 #11

KnR Hekate Dec 2016 #12

Mahalo, Hekate! Cha Dec 2016 #28

Yeah, they say "because of the DNC", but who hacked the DNC and stole Clinton's voter contact info.. George II Dec 2016 #13

The DNC & NGP VAN RECOMMENDED Josh Uretsky who was guy who screwed up. think Dec 2016 #14

Let's just say that neither side committed acts which... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #18

I wouldn't agree with that. Super Delegates are a biased system. For everyone calling for the end Exilednight Dec 2016 #91

Super delegates might have kept Trump from occupying the White House CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #105

That's some far reaching you have going on. Exilednight Dec 2016 #108

I have been gone from DU for a long time. In the meantime, FourScore Dec 2016 #32

Huh. Interesting. I guess you never saw the Hillary bashing, and maybe you choose to ignore Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #48

BS Fired 4 Staffers.. Cha Dec 2016 #54

Uretsky was recommended by the DNC and NGP VAN. The breach occurred because of NGP VAN think Dec 2016 #73

So? Yes, we've heard that a number of times. That doesn't mean he DIDN'T hack.... George II Dec 2016 #75

Uretsky didn't hack anything. The company left the firewall down AGAIN. No data was downloaded think Dec 2016 #77

When one accessed data without permission and copied it, that person stole the data. George II Dec 2016 #78

I started receiving emails from Hillary's campaign at the same time. Imagine that. think Dec 2016 #80

Here's a link to the actual logs: George II Dec 2016 #94

Ohhhhh! They should have thought of that before they hacked Cha Dec 2016 #93

Damn.. come to think of it I was all of a sudden getting emails from BS, too.. I had to Cha Dec 2016 #49

And, BS Fired 4 Staffers and Apologized to Hillary.. Cha Dec 2016 #55

Good information that seems to be forgotten by some. George II Dec 2016 #76

Of course there was no election fraud...just another baseless smear on Hillary lunamagica Dec 2016 #15

Gracias, lunamagica! Cha Dec 2016 #53

A day late and a dollar short, if you ask me. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #16

Exactly. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #20

It would have been much better timing, Bobby.. Cha Dec 2016 #74

Isn't she the one who was established as a DNC mole and asked to leave? n/t FourScore Dec 2016 #17

Enough with the bullshit conspiracy theories! SunSeeker Dec 2016 #23

There is so much denial here at DU. The real reason for Hillary's loss truly evades you. FourScore Dec 2016 #27

HRC and DWS did NOT undermine Bernie's campaign. The famous DWS pnwmom Dec 2016 #29

Wow! I wonder why they all had to resign then. FourScore Dec 2016 #30

How did demonizing Hillary work for you? Happy with DT, are you? n/t pnwmom Dec 2016 #31

I voted for Hillary, and I tried to convince others to. The problem has NOT been me FourScore Dec 2016 #34

Which particular emails were so "scandalous"? I read them and didn't see any pnwmom Dec 2016 #35

Oh good grief! Seriously? Gee, why DID they need to resign? Boggles the mind, doesn't it? FourScore Dec 2016 #39

You can't answer that because there weren't any that "scandalous." pnwmom Dec 2016 #43

pnwmom, I don't see how this helps. I am not going to start educating you on the DNC emails. FourScore Dec 2016 #44

As I said, I read them when they came out. I don't need to read them again. pnwmom Dec 2016 #45

Okay. n/t FourScore Dec 2016 #46

They resigned in a last ditch attempt to pacify people like you. musicblind Dec 2016 #61

Yes, I think the camp just wanted things to quiet down. riversedge Dec 2016 #62

Thank you for that, musicblind.. of course she did. Cha Dec 2016 #99

They resigned because people believe what they want to believe regardless of facts mythology Dec 2016 #71

these sanctimonious claims NJCher Dec 2016 #33

Thank you, NJCher. n/t FourScore Dec 2016 #37

Oh no.. BS wasn't "handicapped at every step of the way".. Cha Dec 2016 #52

you just don't get it, do you? NJCher Dec 2016 #87

OFFS, Symone Sanders quit on June 26, 2016, she was not asked to leave. Bernie's campaign was over. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #50

Thank you, SunSeeker! Cha Dec 2016 #97

Yes.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #36

I completely agree. n/t FourScore Dec 2016 #38

Way to try and spread false rumors and not a very good attempt to kill the messenger of something Cha Dec 2016 #51

DU rec...nt SidDithers Dec 2016 #19

Thank you, DUer Recer Cha Dec 2016 #69

K & R SunSeeker Dec 2016 #21

K&R radical noodle Dec 2016 #24

It was! Cha Dec 2016 #112

Hi Cha! radical noodle Dec 2016 #113

Good info Cha workinclasszero Dec 2016 #25

Just wanted to set the record straight, working.. Cha Dec 2016 #26

I'm a "Bernie Bro" and believe he would have been a better candidate Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #40

Why is he a "sellout"? according to them? Cha Dec 2016 #57

I don't know. I just ignore it and move on. Some are just way off base Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #58

Yes, I do get the gist.. thank you. Cha Dec 2016 #59

To be honest, I felt dirty voting for her. But, in my mind, but vote was a protest vote Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #60

K&R! DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #41

K&R - Mahalo hoapili! CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #42

Mahalo to you, Cajun! Cha Dec 2016 #66

Survived the Trump tradgy some how, getting my fight back CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #106

Same.. looks like a lot of us are Cha Dec 2016 #111

K&R betsuni Dec 2016 #47

Yes. In July. The primary probably wasn't "rigged". Lint Head Dec 2016 #56

Good Reminder for all. REC riversedge Dec 2016 #63

That's right, rivers.. Nothing like shining a little light Cha Dec 2016 #64

Thank you, Cha. brer cat Dec 2016 #65

Right, brer cat.. and we're just doing our part Cha Dec 2016 #68

It's good to review facts. Thanks for posting this. livetohike Dec 2016 #67

so sick of Bernie treestar Dec 2016 #70

You're Welcome, treestar! Cha Dec 2016 #72

Sanders lost even though the Clinton campaign treated him with kid gloves Gothmog Dec 2016 #79

And, that's the reality, Gothmog.. Hillary did everything Cha Dec 2016 #83

Hillary won because Democrats preferred her 2:1 TwilightZone Dec 2016 #81

K&R mcar Dec 2016 #82

Straight Talk from Symone Sanders! Cha Dec 2016 #86

Sanders lost by over 3 million votes Gothmog Dec 2016 #84

Class act!!! K&R InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #85

Can't believe people are harping on this...smh. primaries have been long over. Let it go already AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #88

Agador! Cha Dec 2016 #89

My god, really? The world is about to go up in flames and they are worried about...THIS?!?!!?? AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #90

That's exactly right, AS.. "The World is about to go up Cha Dec 2016 #92

I'll lay a wreath at TruthisAll's tombstone. Coyotl Dec 2016 #98

Kick! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #100

K&R! stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #103

The beauty of theft MFM008 Dec 2016 #104

Generally, unless you're Trump, the best part about election fraud, is that the person JCanete Dec 2016 #107

Thanks! Scurrilous Dec 2016 #110