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Critters2

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28. I don't think it's my business to decide whether any self-defined Christian really is.
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:25 PM
Dec 2011

Ditto with atheists.

Mostly, I try to follow Jesus' teaching--"Do not judge".

I don't know that Hawking has described himself as an atheist. If he has, then I respect his self-definition. That he doesn't fit neatly in the majority Atheist fold, and thus causes other atheists to question his qualifications is also a fact. But, for me, if it says it's a duck, at the very least, I'd let it use my pond.

I read an article the other day wherein Diana Butler Bass said Hitchens wasn't an atheist, really. He just didn't believe in a violent god (frankly, given his writings, I think a violent god would've been the way he'd go, if he had wanted a god, but I digress). I disliked Hitchens, and am beyond sick of the hagiographies that have appeared on DU and elsewhere. But whatever else he may have been, he called himself an atheist. It's not DBB's business to "fix" his self-definition.

I'm also no fan of this Pope (or, as we used to call him at the Boston College School of Theology, "Joe the Rat&quot , but I know he believes that Jesus is the Messiah, and holds to the Trinity. In my book, he's a very self-righteous, relatively intolerant Christian.

Hiya from the Atheist world! [View all] Taverner Dec 2011 OP
I have to admit I don't get the connection between . . . MrModerate Dec 2011 #1
It isn't - just someone from the atheist world saying "hi" to the liberal christians Taverner Dec 2011 #2
Hi Irishonly Dec 2011 #3
civility DonCoquixote Dec 2011 #4
I'd rather hang out with Social Justice Christians than Ayn Rand Atheists... Taverner Dec 2011 #6
Really? Nothing about our invisible friend in the sky? Critters2 Dec 2011 #7
I could care less who you pray too, or who you worship. Taverner Dec 2011 #9
FWIW, my invisible friend doesn't live in the sky. Critters2 Dec 2011 #13
FWIW, whatever you wanna do - as long as it doesn't infringe on me - I'm cool Taverner Dec 2011 #14
Backatcha. nt Critters2 Dec 2011 #17
Let me put it this way: I don't care what makes you want to help. I do care that you do help. Taverner Dec 2011 #11
My Atheist cousin (my closest relative, emotionally and geographically) and I enjoy discussions Critters2 Dec 2011 #12
Enjoy these conversations Taverner Dec 2011 #15
What do you mean? nt Critters2 Dec 2011 #16
We all die. Enjoy these things while you can. nt Taverner Dec 2011 #18
Oh! Of course! Thanks Critters2 Dec 2011 #19
Love and care to you Taverner Dec 2011 #20
Hiya! WildEyedLiberal Dec 2011 #5
I really still am confused as to all the atheist activity in the Religion forum Critters2 Dec 2011 #8
Atheism is not a religion Taverner Dec 2011 #10
i invite you to read Hawking's theories Betty Karlson Dec 2011 #23
Perhaps, but that's Hawking, not Atheism Taverner Dec 2011 #24
Or as we would say in my church: Betty Karlson Dec 2011 #29
Self-delete nt Critters2 Dec 2011 #25
There's actually quite a bit of discussion as to whether Hawking qualifies as atheist... Critters2 Dec 2011 #26
There's a bit of a discussion whether the pope still qualifies Betty Karlson Dec 2011 #27
I don't think it's my business to decide whether any self-defined Christian really is. Critters2 Dec 2011 #28
Oh it is a religion alright and Atheists are more obnoxious than any missionary or evagelical ever RegieRocker Feb 2012 #30
Yeah, go on believing that... Taverner Feb 2012 #32
It is a religion when RegieRocker Feb 2012 #36
Let's consult Merriam Webster... Taverner Feb 2012 #37
One point of correction. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #38
So where is the evidence there is no GOD? RegieRocker Feb 2012 #39
One cannot prove a negative. Critters2 Feb 2012 #40
Stating a theory such as RegieRocker Feb 2012 #42
It's not something from nothing. It was a super dense core that exploded Taverner Feb 2012 #46
The onus is not on me to disprove god, but for you to prove of his existence Taverner Feb 2012 #41
No. Fail. RegieRocker Feb 2012 #43
Can you disprove the existence of an invisible, pink unicorn? No. Then fail. Taverner Feb 2012 #44
I don't have to I am an agnostic. RegieRocker Feb 2012 #45
Tav. You were on safe ground as long as you came across as being warm, fuzzy and friendly. Thats my opinion Feb 2012 #49
I have a low tolerance for BS Taverner Feb 2012 #50
No, Atheism is a faith. A faith that there is nothing beyond death, which is not provable. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #47
No - that doesn't make it a faith Taverner Feb 2012 #48
It's reasonable for atheists to want to discuss religion. Mariana Dec 2011 #21
That analogy doesn't really work. Critters2 Dec 2011 #22
No it isn't reasonable. RegieRocker Feb 2012 #31
How is an atheist a person of faith? Tripod Feb 2012 #33
I'm just looking over the fence and saying "hi" Taverner Feb 2012 #34
Hi back! Tripod Feb 2012 #35
I take off for a couple of days xmas74 Feb 2012 #51
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