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AtheistCrusader

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45. Oh man, when this thread started, I thought you understood how DK effect worked. Silly me.

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:51 AM

Oct 2019

You are committing a formal fallacy. More than one, actually.

It does not follow that claiming theists are delusional is unprovable.
Delusion, in common parlance, is a spectrum that does not imply or require a psychological diagnosis like this one https://www.mdpi.com/1010-660X/44/7/529 . And if you want to talk about unprovability, the person who claims theism is correct/adheres to it, is AT LEAST on as shaky ground as the person suggesting theism might be a delusion. Because theists of different sects can't even prove the reality of their theistic beliefs to each other.

It also does not follow that everyone who makes that claim, is not competent to make the claim.

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Who Is Affected by the Dunning-Kruger Effect? [View all] guillaumeb Oct 2019 OP

This is not only an interesting effect (and article) FM123 Oct 2019 #1

I am an expert in nothing, but even experts in something are not experts in everything. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #3

It is such a fascinating subject! FM123 Oct 2019 #4

Look at Ben Carson. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #6

No shortage of good examples running around pandr32 Oct 2019 #2

True. I am also guilty of it at times. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #5

"His base" is a prime example of this effect RainCaster Oct 2019 #7

How insulting edhopper Oct 2019 #8

And that's exactly the point. trotsky Oct 2019 #10

Off topic. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #16

No the reason for the OP is to stifle criticism of religion wasupaloopa Oct 2019 #28

We will agree to disagree. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #30

That makes sense. Sorry wasupaloopa Oct 2019 #31

Not a problem. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #32

The topic is exorcism. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #36

On the contrary, it's your key topic, as anyone can plainly see. trotsky Oct 2019 #41

At least you demonstrated something. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #47

So predictable. trotsky Oct 2019 #48

Well..... guillaumeb Oct 2019 #15

It appears edhopper Oct 2019 #19

Then you explain it to me. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #20

Because you believe in a sky daddy,, Eko Oct 2019 #39

Oh man, when this thread started, I thought you understood how DK effect worked. Silly me. AtheistCrusader Oct 2019 #45

So why not just reply to the original post about this? Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #9

Certainly not you. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #11

#5 guillaumeb Oct 2019 #17

"at times" trotsky Oct 2019 #43

Case in point: Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #12

LOL n/t trotsky Oct 2019 #13

LMAO! NeoGreen Oct 2019 #14

Are you exempt from Dunning-Kruger guillaumeb Oct 2019 #18

what about the exorcism in arizona where a man killed his son Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #21

Are you exempt from employing whataboutism? eom guillaumeb Oct 2019 #22

What about the report of systemic abuse in the Diocese of Tulsa that was just released yesterday? Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #40

Sometimes you have to wonder if he's trying to be a parody of himself Major Nikon Oct 2019 #33

from the article edhopper Oct 2019 #23

From the excerpt: guillaumeb Oct 2019 #24

Of course we are edhopper Oct 2019 #25

OK. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #26

What claim? edhopper Oct 2019 #38

Many of us here were raised in a religious home. wasupaloopa Oct 2019 #27

True, as can I, guillaumeb Oct 2019 #29

It should be viewed more like... NeoGreen Oct 2019 #34

Thank you for that demonstration. eom guillaumeb Oct 2019 #35

"Demonstration"?...are you... NeoGreen Oct 2019 #37

But that's NOT what the DK effect is. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #42

Yeah, that's why atheists consistently score more knowledgable about religion, than theists. AtheistCrusader Oct 2019 #44

Interesting... NeoGreen Oct 2019 #46

hmmm I think.. uriel1972 Oct 2019 #49