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MineralMan

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11. And are they right to do so, guillaumeb?

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 02:43 PM

Jan 2019

Apparently, all three lead people astray and justify their wrongdoings. Proof texts abound in all three.

None of those three things are any assurance that those who follow them will do the right thing. So, I ask you, of what use are they? Of what value are they to human cultures and societies. I think they are of no value at all, in the end.

People are what they have evolved to be and have been taught to be. Individuals carry with them both genetic and social aspects. Which of those aspects they make their priorities or habits are what determines how they will behave.

Religion has no intrinsic value for good, any more than for bad. It is merely another expression of human nature. More evidence for it not being of some sort of divine origin, but rather a product of the human mind.

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MLK Day 2019- A Reminder of Islamic Teachings on Racism and Diversity [View all] guillaumeb Jan 2019 OP

Another teaching honored more in the breach than in the observance. MineralMan Jan 2019 #1

What do you expect of humans? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #7

Why do you think I expect anything from humans? MineralMan Jan 2019 #9

People do what they feel they can, or must, do. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #10

And are they right to do so, guillaumeb? MineralMan Jan 2019 #11

Religion is one expression of tribalism. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #13

That, Guy, is not an answer. MineralMan Jan 2019 #14

But it is. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #16

"I understand your desire to frame things in the way that you want them to be framed" trotsky Jan 2019 #20

Is that your personal indicator? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #22

.. MineralMan Jan 2019 #37

Some teachings are great indeed. trotsky Jan 2019 #2

11th Commandment! Major Nikon Jan 2019 #3

How dare I post an opinion that is less-than-flattering about religion? trotsky Jan 2019 #4

Because you're part of the "intolerant" "choir" obviously Major Nikon Jan 2019 #5

"Church of the Sacred Bleeding Heart of Jesus"... Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #8

Yes. During which we will read the Bible verses from the bottoms of MineralMan Jan 2019 #12

We can't meet at the In-and-Out anymore Major Nikon Jan 2019 #15

Los Primos, then? Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #18

Los Pollos Hermanos has a bigger room Major Nikon Jan 2019 #36

I do wish to promote the good, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #17

The fact that you used "also" is a huge breakthrough. trotsky Jan 2019 #19

Humans are to blame. eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #21

And the step is walked back. trotsky Jan 2019 #23

Better to be realistic and optimistic. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #24

When the words specifically command or endorse bad things... trotsky Jan 2019 #28

One thing is clear. Your framing. eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #29

Words can inspire good deeds, and they can inspire bad deeds. trotsky Jan 2019 #31

I agree with your first statement. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #33

Do you or do you not believe that religion can inspire bad behavior? trotsky Jan 2019 #34

People can claim motivation from religion. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #40

Interesting framing. Lordquinton Jan 2019 #42

Because it does not fit with your preferred faming? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #43

Is that why you are always disregarding people's posts based on framing? Lordquinton Jan 2019 #44

Only when the framing is too obvious. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #45

So it's justified when you do it Lordquinton Jan 2019 #46

You have the most simple understanding of motivation I have ever seen marylandblue Jan 2019 #49

Basic observations are not invalidated because they are true. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #51

Nope. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #52

Like the many"anecdotal" posts that are posted here guillaumeb Jan 2019 #53

Yes, like those. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #54

Pointing out the obvious can be used as obfuscation marylandblue Jan 2019 #57

Very brave. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #58

Well, as is obvious, I've mixed a bunch of obvious and non-obvious marylandblue Jan 2019 #59

My wife and I have conversations based on the knowledge guillaumeb Jan 2019 #60

There is nothing to wonder about, they disagree with you, that's all marylandblue Jan 2019 #61

So your answer is B. trotsky Jan 2019 #48

Yep, according the Koran, everyone is equal... Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #6

An interesting assertion. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #25

Gosh. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #26

I suggest that you think a bit more. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #27

I suggest I don't. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #30

Falafel. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #32

Shawarma Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #35

I do not eat meat. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #41

The Lebanese make a delightful sauteed eggplant. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #47

There is a restaurant near us that makes a very good marinated eggplant. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #50

"except by piety and good action" trotsky Jan 2019 #38

This somehow contradicts his point? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #39

MLK day Lordquinton Jan 2019 #55

Well, ironically enough, Dr. King was an actual theist. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #56