Gun Control & RKBA

melm00se

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24. I really love it when anti-gunners want laws to say what they want them to say

Wed Apr 20, 2022, 02:22 PM

Apr 2022

rather than what they actually say.

You should have figured that part out from the Rittenhouse trial. The anti-gun league wanted Rittenhouse charged and convicted with a minor in possession of a firearm despite, as the defense pointed out, the elements called out in the law were not met thus leaving the judge no choice but to toss the 1 charge that might have stuck if the law were better written.

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Firearm public safety provisions [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 OP

Mandatory indeterminate-length sentences for murder, attempted murder HeartachesNhangovers Apr 2022 #1

Generally, all of those charges are individual by each state. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #9

You are correct. Usually federal prosecutors aren't involved in murder or attempted murder cases. HeartachesNhangovers Apr 2022 #16

That sounds like a federal action preempting areas of state purview. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #19

No Questions Asked gun buyback Mopar151 Apr 2022 #2

These are happening now usually organized locally. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #10

Needs to be national/universal to work. Mopar151 Apr 2022 #34

Help me here. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #38

Safe Carry / Safe Storage laws for handguns Mopar151 Apr 2022 #3

These are also mostly matters for state and local action. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #12

Again, need to be national/universal. Mopar151 Apr 2022 #35

Again, I'm not seeing how national is better. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author Mopar151 Apr 2022 #36

I dont think any new laws will fix it. thatdemguy Apr 2022 #4

I hear you. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #13

A ban on semi auto weapons of all kinds. AndyS Apr 2022 #5

Under current law there is only one part that requires a serial number. oneshooter Apr 2022 #11

What I had in mind was the receiver serialized and the "kit" being illegal but AndyS Apr 2022 #20

The reason for the repated serial numbers on the Swiss rifle is that they were hand fitted oneshooter Apr 2022 #30

Hi. You've mentioned a semi-auto ban before. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #14

I have no problem with revolvers, lever action or even pump action although I know that AndyS Apr 2022 #21

Is a 6 shot .38 really that much different from a 7 shot M1911? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #40

How about an 8-shot revolver? yagotme May 2022 #50

I never mentioned six shots and I don't think any 'sixshooter hero' would perform as well in AndyS May 2022 #54

By the like of what? Revolvers? yagotme Jun 2022 #57

Did I mention 6 shots? nt AndyS May 2022 #53

No discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2022 #55

No. Disctnt did, and I was replying to him. n/t yagotme Jun 2022 #56

Mandatory liability insurance at purchase Ferryboat Apr 2022 #6

Who attests to the witnesses melm00se Apr 2022 #8

I really love it when gunners go all minutia and argumentum absurdum . . . AndyS Apr 2022 #22

I really love it when anti-gunners want laws to say what they want them to say melm00se Apr 2022 #24

Hmm... Yeah! discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #27

Okay! Jump straight from argumentum absurdum to red herring! AndyS Apr 2022 #29

You need to start listening to a legal-issues podcast krispos42 Apr 2022 #37

Insurance against what? discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #15

I think it is Australia that requires 2 character witnesses Ferryboat Apr 2022 #18

Okay seriously... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #31

Character witness is a person of good standing in the community, Ferryboat Apr 2022 #32

Agree somewhat. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #41

What needs to be regulated is the receiver Ferryboat Apr 2022 #43

The "receiver" and the "trigger mechanism" are 2 different things. yagotme Apr 2022 #44

You could buy a personal cannon in 1776. yagotme Apr 2022 #45

About the insurance requirement Ferryboat Apr 2022 #33

Wrongful deaths ruled accidental could be covered but insurance companies won't be covering crimes. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #42

I really love it when gunners go all minutia and argumentum absurdum . . . AndyS Apr 2022 #23

Some folks (excluding myself) think closing the "gun show loophole" is minutia. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #25

Minutia is the bread and butter of prosecutors and defense attorneys. yagotme Apr 2022 #46

Using/possessing a firearm in the commission melm00se Apr 2022 #7

Mandatory additional charge/sentence for violent crimes involving a gun. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #17

let me clarify melm00se Apr 2022 #26

I think we're agreeing here. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #28

Currently, I believe the main problem is with the "normal course of business". yagotme Apr 2022 #47

re: "...how's about we get "rid" of the killers?" discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2022 #49

Too many prosecutors are considering a "win", a "win". yagotme May 2022 #51

Lengthier sentences for those committing violent crimes. Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #48

Repeal the NFA and GCA '68 Kang Colby May 2022 #52