Gun Control & RKBA

Straw Man

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39. Every hear of "abstract thinking"?

Mon Oct 17, 2016, 03:46 AM

Oct 2016

Alcohol is a drug. For some people, guns are not a drug, so your analogy fails.

Or more precisely, the alcohol analogy only applies to those who relate to their guns as a drug.

That's not all gun owners, only a subset of all gun owners.

Let's see ... alcohol and guns. Potentially dangerous items that are therefore subject to government controls and potentially to prohibition? Yes, I think the analogy holds up.

Your logic is akin to saying that alcohol and cocaine cannot be compared because one is a liquid and the other a powder. Literal-mindedness ad absurdum makes all analogies fail.

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(x-post from LBN) AG Maura Healey: We will win gun lawsuit [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 OP

I hope she wins Jason1961 Oct 2016 #1

why? discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #2

Full auto weapons are heavily restricted Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #5

Has it worked? stone space Oct 2016 #18

they were not shot when they were fully available Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #19

I know that we're better at controling fully-automatics than we are at controling semi-automatics. stone space Oct 2016 #20

so you are for what is effect a ban Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #22

That's not true. Sometimes I talk about gun culture. stone space Oct 2016 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #24

Is what a personal attack? stone space Oct 2016 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #26

I know that they're restricted but not banned Jason1961 Oct 2016 #3

technically they are banned gejohnston Oct 2016 #4

Hunting is not the only reason to own a weapon Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #6

Why--->>> discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #7

Bicycles kill three times as many people annually as semiautomatic rifles do.... benEzra Oct 2016 #8

I'd like a ban on all modern firearms. Jason1961 Oct 2016 #11

Hows that? beevul Oct 2016 #12

Given that 50-60 million people own semiauto rifles, benEzra Oct 2016 #15

Alcohol is a drug. For some people, guns are not a drug, so your analogy fails. stone space Oct 2016 #28

So I guess you agree with all of the other parts Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #29

Why would you guess that? stone space Oct 2016 #31

On the contrary... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #32

Non-sequitur. beevul Oct 2016 #36

Both are semi-controversial consumer products that lead to some deaths from abuse, benEzra Oct 2016 #37

Every hear of "abstract thinking"? Straw Man Oct 2016 #39

re: "...alcohol and guns..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #40

Rate of one (1) rifle homicide per year in MA?? da horror. Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #44

Much of American prohibition history is based on the repugnancy of physical images... Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #42

When's the last time you rode an AR-15 to work? stone space Oct 2016 #21

Why are you obsessed with a firearm Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #27

Are you referring to semi-automatics or fully-automatics here? stone space Oct 2016 #30

I am talking about semi-automatic rifles Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #33

In the Easter Egg Hunt of life... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #34

I like bikes, and I've commuted to work on one before, when I lived closer. benEzra Oct 2016 #35

The last time I carried a rifle to work oneshooter Oct 2016 #45

game warden or hunting guide? gejohnston Oct 2016 #46

Game Ranger in Kenya. n/t oneshooter Oct 2016 #47

I may be mistaken, but haven't you advocated for a complete ban of all firearms? Marengo Oct 2016 #9

Yes Jason1961 Oct 2016 #10

How come...? beevul Oct 2016 #13

Yup. They're not "on the streets"; they're "in citizens' homes". benEzra Oct 2016 #17

Just curious Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #14

Do you call the guy in your avatar a Democrat? benEzra Oct 2016 #16

Healy is too ignorant and ideologically blinkered to know it would be a pyrric victory. pablo_marmol Oct 2016 #38

Going off the reservation usually doesn't bode well for the long term. discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #41

Healy is also an activist Drug Warrior, joining with the GOP governor of MA. Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #43