Gun Control & RKBA

benEzra

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37. Both are semi-controversial consumer products that lead to some deaths from abuse,

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 11:43 AM

Oct 2016

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and which a minority of zealots who don't personally like them wish to outlaw.

The Federal government puts annual alcohol-related fatalities at 100,000, but let's assume that number is overestimated by a factor of two, so say 50,000 deaths annually from alcohol for the sake of argument. All rifles combined account for less than 350 murders annually (extrapolating from the FBI UCR) and a small number of accidental deaths, with semiautos probably responsible for roughly half. So say 250 semiauto-rifle deaths annually, all told. That's a ratio of 200:1.

Small question: Do you personally drink alcohol? Or do you believe in total abstinence and prohibition?

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(x-post from LBN) AG Maura Healey: We will win gun lawsuit [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 OP

I hope she wins Jason1961 Oct 2016 #1

why? discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #2

Full auto weapons are heavily restricted Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #5

Has it worked? stone space Oct 2016 #18

they were not shot when they were fully available Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #19

I know that we're better at controling fully-automatics than we are at controling semi-automatics. stone space Oct 2016 #20

so you are for what is effect a ban Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #22

That's not true. Sometimes I talk about gun culture. stone space Oct 2016 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #24

Is what a personal attack? stone space Oct 2016 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #26

I know that they're restricted but not banned Jason1961 Oct 2016 #3

technically they are banned gejohnston Oct 2016 #4

Hunting is not the only reason to own a weapon Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #6

Why--->>> discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #7

Bicycles kill three times as many people annually as semiautomatic rifles do.... benEzra Oct 2016 #8

I'd like a ban on all modern firearms. Jason1961 Oct 2016 #11

Hows that? beevul Oct 2016 #12

Given that 50-60 million people own semiauto rifles, benEzra Oct 2016 #15

Alcohol is a drug. For some people, guns are not a drug, so your analogy fails. stone space Oct 2016 #28

So I guess you agree with all of the other parts Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #29

Why would you guess that? stone space Oct 2016 #31

On the contrary... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #32

Non-sequitur. beevul Oct 2016 #36

Both are semi-controversial consumer products that lead to some deaths from abuse, benEzra Oct 2016 #37

Every hear of "abstract thinking"? Straw Man Oct 2016 #39

re: "...alcohol and guns..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #40

Rate of one (1) rifle homicide per year in MA?? da horror. Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #44

Much of American prohibition history is based on the repugnancy of physical images... Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #42

When's the last time you rode an AR-15 to work? stone space Oct 2016 #21

Why are you obsessed with a firearm Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #27

Are you referring to semi-automatics or fully-automatics here? stone space Oct 2016 #30

I am talking about semi-automatic rifles Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #33

In the Easter Egg Hunt of life... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #34

I like bikes, and I've commuted to work on one before, when I lived closer. benEzra Oct 2016 #35

The last time I carried a rifle to work oneshooter Oct 2016 #45

game warden or hunting guide? gejohnston Oct 2016 #46

Game Ranger in Kenya. n/t oneshooter Oct 2016 #47

I may be mistaken, but haven't you advocated for a complete ban of all firearms? Marengo Oct 2016 #9

Yes Jason1961 Oct 2016 #10

How come...? beevul Oct 2016 #13

Yup. They're not "on the streets"; they're "in citizens' homes". benEzra Oct 2016 #17

Just curious Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #14

Do you call the guy in your avatar a Democrat? benEzra Oct 2016 #16

Healy is too ignorant and ideologically blinkered to know it would be a pyrric victory. pablo_marmol Oct 2016 #38

Going off the reservation usually doesn't bode well for the long term. discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #41

Healy is also an activist Drug Warrior, joining with the GOP governor of MA. Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #43