Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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43. actually, it is

Sat Jul 2, 2016, 12:18 AM

Jul 2016

if you are using accurate statistics. You are afraid of a demographic that is statistically more law abiding and more responsible with firearms than the police. On the other hand, it is a rational fear if you happen to be in the home invasion business or just like to beat people's head in, but not for the average peaceful person. You are more likely to be murdered by an ISIS or AQ operative or any other rapid mass murderer than a CCW holder. Even that is pretty rare. That makes it irrational.
On the other hand, if you enter the "triangle of stupid", like stiff your pot dealer or your bookie, then that is another problem.

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Busnesses that go gun free will be liable for safety of CCW holders [View all] Press Virginia Jul 2016 OP

And will they be liable if the NRA decides to shoot us? scscholar Jul 2016 #1

When has the NRA shot anyone? Press Virginia Jul 2016 #2

when have businesses who don't allow guns shot anyone? MariaThinks Jul 2016 #51

You want a "gun free zone", just take responsibility for it DonP Jul 2016 #52

A bar faces no liability for not serving alcohol CreekDog Jul 2016 #53

Derp! Nobody said they did DonP Jul 2016 #57

YOU just said it CreekDog Jul 2016 #79

Gee, now I'll toss and turn all night worrying about you and the other control "fans" opinion of me DonP Jul 2016 #81

Why did you deny making the comparison to a bar serving alcohol CreekDog Jul 2016 #82

I didn't; now try reading it again slowly, feel free to move your lips if it helps DonP Jul 2016 #83

You made the comparison, OWN IT CreekDog Jul 2016 #87

Congratulations, you get the last word DonP Jul 2016 #88

Ah, Creekdog. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #84

great point. Can you imagine suing a bar FOR NOT serving alcohol? MariaThinks Jul 2016 #70

Why don't gun owners and gun sellers take responsibility for the destruction MariaThinks Jul 2016 #69

Gun sellers? DonP Jul 2016 #74

Why should people who committed no crime be Press Virginia Jul 2016 #75

When did anyone claim they did? Press Virginia Jul 2016 #55

Better worry about an attack by the tooth fairy as well. DonP Jul 2016 #14

Must be nice. enough Jul 2016 #3

But they won't have a gun. The establishment forbids them Press Virginia Jul 2016 #10

Sad some have to go through life in such fear DrDan Jul 2016 #4

Yes. It is sad that people are so afraid of guns Press Virginia Jul 2016 #5

Not guns - gunners DrDan Jul 2016 #7

They're not afraid of guns Press Virginia Jul 2016 #8

Afraid of being away from one DrDan Jul 2016 #11

While some people are afraid of the thought of being near one Press Virginia Jul 2016 #12

Being near the fearful gunner DrDan Jul 2016 #13

Because CCW carriers have an extensive record of mass shootings, right? Press Virginia Jul 2016 #15

shootings in general, to include mass shootings DrDan Jul 2016 #16

Really? When has a CCW holder committed a mass shooting? Press Virginia Jul 2016 #17

"Shootings in general" DrDan Jul 2016 #18

"To include mass shootings" Press Virginia Jul 2016 #19

Michael McLendon March 2009 DrDan Jul 2016 #20

1. 7 years ago? Press Virginia Jul 2016 #21

This is getting ridiculous - good bye DrDan Jul 2016 #22

1 example from 7 years ago? With claims of over 300 mass shootings every year? DonP Jul 2016 #25

And it's a guy who killed his family members Press Virginia Jul 2016 #27

I guess that South Carolina club shooting last week end was also a "mass shooting" DonP Jul 2016 #29

you know defensive uses never ever happen Press Virginia Jul 2016 #30

They don't count????? DrDan Jul 2016 #33

Not if you're using as your basis to fear CCW carriers in public Press Virginia Jul 2016 #35

Ridiculous DrDan Jul 2016 #37

Jason Hagon Dej-Odoua 7/1/16 DrDan Jul 2016 #48

Another family related shooting. I'd say you have more to fear Press Virginia Jul 2016 #56

Another mass shooting DrDan Jul 2016 #58

Not in a public place. You know, where you'd be Press Virginia Jul 2016 #59

Another mass murder - 3 children - 3!!! DrDan Jul 2016 #61

No, it was 4 sarisataka Jul 2016 #62

Nice diversion DrDan Jul 2016 #65

So no, sarisataka Jul 2016 #66

Why would you make that last statement DrDan Jul 2016 #67

No insult sarisataka Jul 2016 #68

Your silence sarisataka Jul 2016 #94

Tragic but hardly a basis for your fear Press Virginia Jul 2016 #63

I'm not the one who is afraid to venture out without a weapon DrDan Jul 2016 #64

You're afraid of people who carry guns you can't see Press Virginia Jul 2016 #71

No threat to those 3 children mowed down in Las Vegas? DrDan Jul 2016 #72

How does their death pose a threat to you Press Virginia Jul 2016 #73

Another mass murder -far too frequent DrDan Jul 2016 #76

had the been bludgeoned would you care? Would you fear heavy objects? Press Virginia Jul 2016 #77

How many times have you used your weapon defensively? DrDan Jul 2016 #78

Once Press Virginia Jul 2016 #80

Pedro Vargas 2013 DrDan Jul 2016 #31

C'mon gun control claims at least that many every year. DonP Jul 2016 #32

Thank you - and gunners are allowed their John Wayne DrDan Jul 2016 #34

They're more likely to stop a crime than shoot up the store you're in Press Virginia Jul 2016 #36

Not guns - gunners DrDan Jul 2016 #38

so you have an irrational fear of people Press Virginia Jul 2016 #39

No - gunners - and according to the statistics, not irrational DrDan Jul 2016 #40

100 million gun owners 16,000 murders Press Virginia Jul 2016 #41

100m full-of-fear gun owners . . . DrDan Jul 2016 #42

the stats don't support your fear of "gunners" Press Virginia Jul 2016 #44

Gosh, Doc, you're afraid of a third of the country? Physician, heal thyself. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #89

Yet I am not the one who needs a gun to get through life DrDan Jul 2016 #91

No, but you sure seem to claim the need to control others to get through your own. beevul Jul 2016 #92

I don't need house insurance to get through life. Got it anyway. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #93

actually, it is gejohnston Jul 2016 #43

Well, violent criminals are big supporters of gun control too DonP Jul 2016 #47

Don't overlook gun traffickers sarisataka Jul 2016 #49

Oooh, ooh ... and the pedophile Mayors Against Illegal Guns DonP Jul 2016 #50

I believe he was convicted on anti-trust violations... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #90

Seems strange to me as safeinOhio Jul 2016 #6

High security venues vs a gun free zone with little security Press Virginia Jul 2016 #9

Corrections(s). Straw Man Jul 2016 #45

Awwww, you're harshing one of their favorite Memes with pesky facts DonP Jul 2016 #60

ROFLMAO!!!! virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #86

not any more than they are for any other person in that business. well look its Tennesee nt msongs Jul 2016 #23

Other patrons aren't covered to and from the location where the gun is stored Press Virginia Jul 2016 #24

Why don't they just bring their mommies with them Politicalboi Jul 2016 #26

Yeaaaah because only males are CCW holders Press Virginia Jul 2016 #28

Beg your pardon? Straw Man Jul 2016 #46

Same old slurs in the New DU. Such nostalgia. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #85

And some still say "turning point" virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #54