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friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
15. Good question- Does the OP 'profile' his prospective customers?
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:38 PM
Nov 2015

It's not an academic question- "Curio and Relic" simply means ''fifty years old" (and sometimes
less than that, as explained) , NOT "19th century technology"

There are many, many "curio" or "relic" firearms listed at the links below that a terrorist
would be interested in.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios-relics

Curios & Relics

A regulation implementing Federal firearms laws, 27 CFR §478.11, defines Curio or Relic (C&R) firearms as those which are of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons.

To be recognized as C&R items, 478.11 specifies that firearms must fall within one of the following categories:

1. Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date,
but not including replicas of such firearms;

2. Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which
exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; and

3. Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary
value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event.


Firearms automatically attain C&R status when they are 50 years old. Any firearm that is at least 50 years old, and in its original configuration, would qualify as a C&R firearm.



https://www.atf.gov/files/publications/firearms/curios-relics/p-5300-11-firearms-curios-or-relics-list.pdf

https://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/curios-relics/update-january-2009-june-2010.html

https://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/curios-relics/update-may-2006-december-2007.html

https://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/curios-relics/update-may-2005-may-2006.html

https://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/curios-relics/update-march-2001-may-2005.html

The disinterested reader that peruses the above will note that semi-automatic shotguns, slam-firing 'trench brooms', semiautomatic versions of submachine guns, and honest-to-FSM
sniper rifles can all easily be bought and sold by C&R FFL holders...

pious pronunciations to the contrary notwithstanding.

We need more guns . . . [View all] flamin lib Nov 2015 OP
a few years old, gejohnston Nov 2015 #1
I seriously doubt that it would make a rat's ass of a difference if he flamin lib Nov 2015 #2
you know that isn't really correct either gejohnston Nov 2015 #18
I don't know about "we" but I sure do. ileus Nov 2015 #3
I wish Colt or someone would bring back the Woodsman... Hangingon Nov 2015 #7
Used Woodsman in the local shop - $800 - one magazine, no box DonP Nov 2015 #10
I have a Ruger MarkII and an old MarkI from my dad. Hangingon Nov 2015 #12
I've got a Ruger MK III and a Buckmark ... but the Colt just looks so damn cool DonP Nov 2015 #16
Agree totally! Hangingon Nov 2015 #19
I picked up Marlin Model 60's for each grand kid DonP Nov 2015 #20
My very first firearm bought was a Marlin 60, back in 1983. Waldorf Nov 2015 #22
That one, or maybe the High Standard .22 of that era. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #29
More guns in the US than ever. beardown Nov 2015 #4
No, gun deaths are now increasing at 1-1.5% per year. You're thinking of auto deaths. nt flamin lib Nov 2015 #8
Less than the rate of population growth, it should be noted... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #14
To be fair JonathanRackham Nov 2015 #26
So as an FFL holder sarisataka Nov 2015 #5
Good question- Does the OP 'profile' his prospective customers? friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #15
I have a C&R license and I was totally surpirised about the curio part. I bought a Polish Waldorf Nov 2015 #24
It gets better ... Straw Man Nov 2015 #25
Thanks for the info the CZ 82. Will be taking a look at it. Waldorf Nov 2015 #27
You're welcome. Straw Man Nov 2015 #31
Yes I do. I would like to add a M1 Garand to my collection, but prices are more than I'm willing to Waldorf Nov 2015 #32
Give me more time - I am working on it. hack89 Nov 2015 #6
What? She wants to divorce you? Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #30
Getting one out of lay-away next month. My Christmas present :) Waldorf Nov 2015 #9
Don't keep us in suspense... ileus Nov 2015 #11
Marlin 1894 in .44 mag. Waldorf Nov 2015 #17
picked up another 10# of lead today myself. ileus Nov 2015 #21
I reload manufactured bullets. I've looked at making lead bullets (good vidoes on youtube) but Waldorf Nov 2015 #23
Put your money where your mouth is. beevul Nov 2015 #13
flaming lib, you already got plenty. In GD Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #28
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