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gyroscope

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30. But molten aluminum

Mon Nov 3, 2014, 02:05 PM

Nov 2014

is silver in color as seen in this image.

the witnesses described molten pools at the WTC as being bright orange in color, like lava or molten steel would be.

the other problem with the aluminum theory is, when you pour water onto it molten aluminum will cool and solidify within minutes. but that will not not happen with molten steel. even as firefighters were pouring tons of water onto the debris pile every day,the molten pools in the collapsed towers did not solidify and remained molten for weeks on end, indicating molten pools of steel.

“I knew what they were standing on top of,” Giuliani says. “They were standing on top of a cauldron. They were standing on top of fires 2,000 degrees that raged for a hundred days. And they put their lives at risk raising that flag.”
- Mayor Rudy Giuliani

http://nymag.com/news/features/28517/

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9/11 Molten Metal at World Trade Center.11th September 2001. [View all] wildbilln864 Oct 2014 OP

Since Aluminum melts at 1200 degrees, what's the issue here? hack89 Oct 2014 #1

Al melts but doesn't glow bright orange when heated less than 1800 degrees F! wildbilln864 Oct 2014 #2

So molten steel is common at fires? hack89 Oct 2014 #3

" So molten steel is common at fires?" wildbilln864 Oct 2014 #4

So they slathered entire columns with thermite to melt them hack89 Oct 2014 #5

for your education: wildbilln864 Oct 2014 #6

You prove my point hack89 Oct 2014 #7

nonsense! wildbilln864 Oct 2014 #8

So what was heating the steel so long after the collapse? hack89 Oct 2014 #9

Thermite can burn for months gyroscope Nov 2014 #14

Steel beams will not act like fuel for thermate hack89 Nov 2014 #15

Huh? gyroscope Nov 2014 #16

What about super duper Theramateite??? zappaman Nov 2014 #17

Why would there be unburnt thermite in the rubble pile? hack89 Nov 2014 #18

Thermate is a hypothetical substance? gyroscope Nov 2014 #19

Your links undercut your argument of large amounts of unburnt thermate in the rubble pile hack89 Nov 2014 #20

"Unburned thermate" gyroscope Nov 2014 #21

You said there was unburnt thermite in the rubble pile, not Jones hack89 Nov 2014 #22

Nonsense gyroscope Nov 2014 #23

But the thermite would not have melted the steel beams hack89 Nov 2014 #24

Thermite cuts by melting gyroscope Nov 2014 #26

But it only melts a very small portion of the steel hack89 Nov 2014 #27

Doesn't matter if the thermate was expended gyroscope Nov 2014 #28

There was not enough molten steel to form pools hack89 Nov 2014 #29

Wrong again gyroscope Nov 2014 #32

They covered the vertical columns with tons of thermate and miles of det cord completely undetected? hack89 Nov 2014 #33

Det cord? lol gyroscope Nov 2014 #35

So you of course can show where large building demolitions are routinely done with wireless? hack89 Nov 2014 #37

Not going to address the tons of thermate? Don't blame you. hack89 Nov 2014 #38

Citibank Tower NYC - 1978 nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #41

"WELDERS started work almost immediately, their torches a dazzlement in the night sky." hack89 Nov 2014 #44

Well isn't this interesting nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #52

Except Stratsec was excused from the project in 1998 for non-performance hack89 Nov 2014 #55

Not according to CEO Barry McDaniel nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #57

Their financial report to the SEC says the project ended in 1998 hack89 Nov 2014 #58

Dozens of contracted maintenance crews gyroscope Nov 2014 #42

So how long did it take to smuggle in and install tons of thermate and wire it up? hack89 Nov 2014 #45

As long it takes gyroscope Nov 2014 #47

5 years in complete secrecy hack89 Nov 2014 #49

Bush took office January 2001 gyroscope Nov 2014 #50

Statsec was removed from the WTC project in 1998 for non-performance. Nt hack89 Nov 2014 #56

No link? gyroscope Nov 2014 #64

Their financial report to the SEC says the project ended in 1998 hack89 Nov 2014 #66

Do you agree the fires were hot enough to melt aluminum? nt hack89 Nov 2014 #25

But molten aluminum gyroscope Nov 2014 #30

How did it keep separate from all that molten steel? Wouldn't it mix? hack89 Nov 2014 #31

Gibberish gyroscope Nov 2014 #34

Lets start with "2,000 degrees that raged for a hundred days" hack89 Nov 2014 #36

Jesus Christ gyroscope Nov 2014 #40

So now the aluminum didn't cool it evaporated? hack89 Nov 2014 #43

Congrats, you live up to your name gyroscope Nov 2014 #46

So how do you distinguish the two hack89 Nov 2014 #48

Lord have mercy gyroscope Nov 2014 #51

You are the one that believes that steel beams burn like logs hack89 Nov 2014 #53

That's not what I said gyroscope Nov 2014 #62

But a very poor analogy hack89 Nov 2014 #65

Absurd gyroscope Nov 2014 #68

There was no molten pool to fall into hack89 Nov 2014 #69

What do you think happened to all the thermate after the collapse? gyroscope Nov 2014 #70

The thermate was gone in seconds hack89 Nov 2014 #73

Regardless gyroscope Nov 2014 #75

There was not enough molten steel to produce pools hack89 Nov 2014 #77

Wrong on all counts. nt gyroscope Nov 2014 #80

So cutting the columns would not collapse the building? hack89 Nov 2014 #81

That's not what I said gyroscope Nov 2014 #82

There were only forty or so core columns hack89 Nov 2014 #83

It's been explained several times gyroscope Nov 2014 #85

ok zappaman Nov 2014 #86

So if all the core columns are cut the WTC would not collapse? hack89 Nov 2014 #87

Do you agree that the WTC collapse obviously looked like CD? nt hack89 Nov 2014 #84

No doubt about that! gyroscope Nov 2014 #89

Which means the columns did not have to be melted, just cut. hack89 Nov 2014 #91

So why didn't they use high explosives? hack89 Nov 2014 #92

"emersed"? zappaman Nov 2014 #54

The spelling Nazi strikes again gyroscope Nov 2014 #63

says the guy who said zappaman Nov 2014 #67

The thread is mainly about the science of 9/11 gyroscope Nov 2014 #71

So why haven't you presented any science? zappaman Nov 2014 #72

Why haven't you? gyroscope Nov 2014 #74

Cuz I like to sit back and watch you get your ass handed to you. zappaman Nov 2014 #76

So the spelling Nazi gyroscope Nov 2014 #78

Uh huh zappaman Nov 2014 #79

Where'd you go to school? The Ebonics Academy? gyroscope Nov 2014 #88

Lol. zappaman Nov 2014 #90

"...at one point I think they were at 2800 degrees! " William Seger Oct 2014 #10

your link cites the temps five days later.... wildbilln864 Nov 2014 #11

That's the only series of aerial "hotspot" readings that were taken William Seger Nov 2014 #13

No melted steel on 911, 911 truth fails, and falls short of Creative Speculation standards superbeachnut Nov 2014 #12

FEMA: Limited Metallurgical Examination nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #39

Having posted a mechanism to melt steel after the collapse without thermite hack89 Nov 2014 #59

1000 C means no melted steel. You proved no melted steel on 911 - you are a debunker superbeachnut Nov 2014 #60

No melted steel found. superbeachnut Nov 2014 #61