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NoMoreWarNow

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25. btw, this reminds me very much of a book I read on debunking alien abductions

Sun Jan 20, 2013, 03:56 PM

Jan 2013

http://www.amazon.com/Abducted-People-Believe-Kidnapped-Aliens/dp/067402401X

Susan Clancy's "Abducted".

The huge hole in the book, was that it started with the basic premise that UFOs didn't exist, so all the stories had to be made up. And then she went about figuring how these people made stuff up.

To be sure, not all abductee stories are real, but to flat out say there is no such thing as UFOs-- especially given the massive literature and documentation out there-- is just terrible science.

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SKEPTIC - The Physics of UFOs [View all] frogmarch Jan 2013 OP

All of man's established religions... fadedrose Jan 2013 #1

Really? You believe aliens visit earth often? My proof they are not is that..... Logical Jan 2013 #2

There is no proof that we know about and fadedrose Jan 2013 #3

"no proof they don't visit"? Really, well hell..... Logical Jan 2013 #4

If I don't care if you don't believe what I believe fadedrose Jan 2013 #5

Spill the beans, dude... where's the cure? gtar100 Jan 2013 #6

:-) Logical Jan 2013 #7

what kind of "proof" would you accept? NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #15

Then what would stop be from believing in everything? Ghosts? ESP? All religions. Etc? n-t Logical Jan 2013 #17

up to you to discriminate NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #19

Please provide your BEST case evidence for a UFO. One incident that convinced you they are aliens! Logical Jan 2013 #21

there isn't one best, but lots of things NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #23

Cool I will read about it. Believe me, I would 100% welcome UFO proof. I have wanted it since I... Logical Jan 2013 #27

well, it's really an accumulation of evidence that seals it for me NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #28

Booo. UFO skeptics are no fun. Quantess Jan 2013 #8

I think it’s possible frogmarch Jan 2013 #9

I enjoy a good alien story before bedtime, I really do. Quantess Jan 2013 #11

That's pretty much my take on it too. frogmarch Jan 2013 #13

why don't you think the Rendlesham forest incident is a good example anymore? NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #16

The two airmen frogmarch Jan 2013 #18

that's the "standard" debunking NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #20

An extremely bright fireball frogmarch Jan 2013 #22

because there is way more to the story than just these few points. NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #24

haha! yes, I have, but OMG frogmarch Jan 2013 #26

there are some decent documentaries on Youtube on it NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #29

The highest level of frogmarch Jan 2013 #30

Penniston's story may be exaggerated or false NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #31

Enter Skip Buran and Kevin Conde frogmarch Jan 2013 #32

thanks... I looked that over and found some other stuff on FB NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #37

(8-06-2011) Col. Conrad agrees it may have been a hoax frogmarch Jan 2013 #38

sorry, but you are pushing the idea that it was all a hoax NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #39

aw geez frogmarch Jan 2013 #41

aw, geez, what? NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #44

"There is evidence going both ways" zappaman Jan 2013 #42

well, I'm sorry, but there is. NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #43

Saying "coverup" and "disinformation" is not evidence. zappaman Jan 2013 #45

there's no evidence... right.... NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #46

Eyewitnesses see UFOs all the time zappaman Jan 2013 #47

but the accounts are evidence of something very strange NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #48

Sure, I agree there is likely life out there somewhere... zappaman Jan 2013 #49

I doubt that's all they do... and how the heck can you comprehend what an alien would do anyway? NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #50

"likely tamper with it"? zappaman Jan 2013 #51

Do you get the feeling that frogmarch Jan 2013 #52

Well, it IS creative... n/t zappaman Jan 2013 #53

here are some NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #54

Lt. Col. Charles Halt of Rendlesham Forest fame frogmarch Jan 2013 #55

there are others-- Salas, for instance NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #59

Some of the cases are frogmarch Jan 2013 #60

what kind of indisputable evidence do you want? NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #62

Physical evidence such as frogmarch Jan 2013 #63

Exactly. zappaman Jan 2013 #64

Similar thoughts here too. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #56

I saw a UFO a few hours ago... zappaman Jan 2013 #10

I MAY have seen the same thing ! Was it silver ? BlueJazz Jan 2013 #12

amen! NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #14

btw, this reminds me very much of a book I read on debunking alien abductions NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #25

I just now saw your post. frogmarch Feb 2013 #75

Clancy's thesis was that the abductions were sleep paralysis NoMoreWarNow Feb 2013 #76

No, not sarcasm. frogmarch Feb 2013 #78

The author acknowledges the 'huge hole' right off the bat, so it's not really AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #80

I don't remember the author acknowledging anything like that NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #81

It's in the first chapter, IIRC. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #82

you seem to have left out a key word NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #83

I didn't leave it out. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #84

square brackets are used for the HTML code here NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #85

I've always wondered.... ti66er8pooh Jan 2013 #33

Ah, yes, the lights! frogmarch Jan 2013 #34

Now that makes sense! zappaman Jan 2013 #35

Yep. frogmarch Jan 2013 #36

hahahahaha! NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #40

I don't have the link now, but I have read speculation they could be a billion years or so more RKP5637 Jan 2013 #57

The thing is, we assume we are a remote post, because we don't know how they do it Amonester Feb 2013 #65

Yep!!! Quite true!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2013 #66

When I was in my teens (late sixties...) I remember seeing a movie :) Amonester Feb 2013 #67

It will happen, just a matter of time, so to say, LOL. RKP5637 Feb 2013 #68

It would happen if this 'agressive' species of ours would learn something from History... Amonester Feb 2013 #69

I've often told people, and I've been very serious, only intergalactic intervention RKP5637 Feb 2013 #70

I have big doubts any of these 'visitors' will ever intervene. Amonester Feb 2013 #71

Probably right! In the big scheme of things, why worry about a spinning ball of dirt with RKP5637 Feb 2013 #72

I saw one in 1973 so I believe. BobbyBoring Jan 2013 #58

I can understand frogmarch Jan 2013 #61

James Fox to Announce $100,000 UFO Reward for Proof of an ET Spacecraft zappaman Feb 2013 #73

The “best proof” frogmarch Feb 2013 #74

if we assume the govt is covering up evidence of aliens in the name of national security NoMoreWarNow Feb 2013 #77

I don't think the government is frogmarch Feb 2013 #79

The Anchorage Incident - John Callahan Testimony razee Mar 2013 #86

Interesting! Thanks for posting it. frogmarch Mar 2013 #87

Back in the 80's I saw this one razee Mar 2013 #88

Cool! I'd love to see frogmarch Mar 2013 #89