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Israel/Palestine

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)

27. The Human rights NGOs are using available evidence, including figures from Hamas.

Reply to shira (Reply #26)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:48 PM

Jul 2016

As these statistics are correlated and compiled from several sources, including interviews, it would be pretty obvious if there were attempts to fudge the evidence.

As these NGOs are using the same methods to estimate casualties in other conflicts too, it would be reasonable to believe that they give more or less correct estimates. It's unlikely that every human rights NGO is using flawed methods in Gaza and in all other conflicts in the world. OTOH, the Israeli estimate is opaque and doesn't explain what methods and evidence that were used, which means they're impossible to verify. For me, impossible to verify equals bogus.

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Using stolen water to irrigate stolen land [View all] Israeli Jul 2016 OP

The Myth of the Thirsty Palestinian shira Jul 2016 #1

"Do ya wanna tell me a story bout' trollops and plug tails? Please?" "Back home, Puff-guts would Little Tich Jul 2016 #3

LoL. Facts? You've gotta get your definitions down first. shira Jul 2016 #4

For me, it's not logical that the UN, the World Bank, Amnesty, the French Parliament and B'tselem Little Tich Jul 2016 #5

You know they've lied before WRT denying Hamas human shields & child militants.... shira Jul 2016 #6

B'tselem: Water crisis - Discriminatory water supply Little Tich Jul 2016 #2

Don't worry, shira's already looking for a "B'tselem lies" story. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #8

Sometimes the truth has to fudged a little bit to fit with the Zionist narrative. Little Tich Jul 2016 #9

Here's just one example of B'tselem lying about civilian casualties from Cast Lead 2009 shira Jul 2016 #11

So when different neutral organizations reach the same conclusion about the casualties independently Little Tich Jul 2016 #16

Those "different neutral" sources all got their info. from Hamas' Gaza Health Ministry shira Jul 2016 #18

If 69-75% of the casualties were civilians, it's not a lie to claim that. Little Tich Jul 2016 #20

It wasn't 69-75%. That was a lie Hamas admitted when they agreed w/ the IDF numbers.... shira Jul 2016 #21

I trust the UN, B'tselem, HRW etc, but I don't trust the IDF. Little Tich Jul 2016 #22

Where did the UN, B'tselem, HRW get their numbers from? It was Hamas, wasn't it? shira Jul 2016 #23

You trust Hamas' figures b/c that's where the UN, B'tselem, HRW got their numbers shira Jul 2016 #26

The Human rights NGOs are using available evidence, including figures from Hamas. Little Tich Jul 2016 #27

They're using only Hamas propaganda. Gaza Health Ministry, PCHR... shira Jul 2016 #28

B'tselem is bullshit and Palestinians do have legit grievances towards Bibi.... shira Jul 2016 #10

So basically, there aren't ANY groups who oppose what Netanyahu and Bennett do in the West Bank Ken Burch Jul 2016 #12

We're talking B'tselem here & you don't have a problem with their lies & incitement to hate.... shira Jul 2016 #13

You assume that the Palestinian position is based mainly on "hatred"...why? Ken Burch Jul 2016 #14

Stick to the topic, B'tselem. They're proven liars, inciting hatred.... shira Jul 2016 #15

They actually aren't proven liars. It's just that the Israeli right refuses to accept Ken Burch Jul 2016 #17

Proof they lied is in #11 above. Now own it. shira Jul 2016 #19

Israel Incapable of Telling Truth About Water It Steals From Palestinians Israeli Jul 2016 #24

Amira Hass, yet another terror supporter. She invoked Protocols of Elders of Zion. shira Jul 2016 #25

Summer is here- the water isn't....... Israeli Jul 2016 #7