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shira

(30,109 posts)
23. Where did the UN, B'tselem, HRW get their numbers from? It was Hamas, wasn't it?
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:58 PM
Jul 2016

You trust Hamas over the IDF.

Problem is Hamas agreed with the IDF a year later, so what do you say to that?

Hamas’ military wing had previously claimed that only 49 of its militants were killed during the three-week operation that the IDF launched in December 2008. Israel had put the figure at 709.

In an interview with the London-based Al-Hayat daily last Monday, however, Hamas Interior Minister Fathi Hamad detailed the heavy price his group had paid during the war.

"They say that it was the people who were harmed in the last war," said Hamad. "Are we not part of the people nation? On the first day of the war, Israel attacked the police command and killed 250 martyrs, from Hamas and other factions."

"This was in addition to the 200-300 members of the Al-Qassam Brigade (Hamas' military wing) and 150 security personnel," Hamad added. "The rest of the fatalities were from among the civilian population."
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/hamas-admits-600-700-of-its-men-were-killed-in-cast-lead-1.323776


Gee, Hamas' figure of 700 is pretty damned close to the IDF figure of 709. What a coincidence! Must be a Zionist conspiracy!

Your denial is ridiculous.

The Myth of the Thirsty Palestinian shira Jul 2016 #1
"Do ya wanna tell me a story bout' trollops and plug tails? Please?" "Back home, Puff-guts would Little Tich Jul 2016 #3
LoL. Facts? You've gotta get your definitions down first. shira Jul 2016 #4
For me, it's not logical that the UN, the World Bank, Amnesty, the French Parliament and B'tselem Little Tich Jul 2016 #5
You know they've lied before WRT denying Hamas human shields & child militants.... shira Jul 2016 #6
B'tselem: Water crisis - Discriminatory water supply Little Tich Jul 2016 #2
Don't worry, shira's already looking for a "B'tselem lies" story. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #8
Sometimes the truth has to fudged a little bit to fit with the Zionist narrative. Little Tich Jul 2016 #9
Here's just one example of B'tselem lying about civilian casualties from Cast Lead 2009 shira Jul 2016 #11
So when different neutral organizations reach the same conclusion about the casualties independently Little Tich Jul 2016 #16
Those "different neutral" sources all got their info. from Hamas' Gaza Health Ministry shira Jul 2016 #18
If 69-75% of the casualties were civilians, it's not a lie to claim that. Little Tich Jul 2016 #20
It wasn't 69-75%. That was a lie Hamas admitted when they agreed w/ the IDF numbers.... shira Jul 2016 #21
I trust the UN, B'tselem, HRW etc, but I don't trust the IDF. Little Tich Jul 2016 #22
Where did the UN, B'tselem, HRW get their numbers from? It was Hamas, wasn't it? shira Jul 2016 #23
You trust Hamas' figures b/c that's where the UN, B'tselem, HRW got their numbers shira Jul 2016 #26
The Human rights NGOs are using available evidence, including figures from Hamas. Little Tich Jul 2016 #27
They're using only Hamas propaganda. Gaza Health Ministry, PCHR... shira Jul 2016 #28
B'tselem is bullshit and Palestinians do have legit grievances towards Bibi.... shira Jul 2016 #10
So basically, there aren't ANY groups who oppose what Netanyahu and Bennett do in the West Bank Ken Burch Jul 2016 #12
We're talking B'tselem here & you don't have a problem with their lies & incitement to hate.... shira Jul 2016 #13
You assume that the Palestinian position is based mainly on "hatred"...why? Ken Burch Jul 2016 #14
Stick to the topic, B'tselem. They're proven liars, inciting hatred.... shira Jul 2016 #15
They actually aren't proven liars. It's just that the Israeli right refuses to accept Ken Burch Jul 2016 #17
Proof they lied is in #11 above. Now own it. shira Jul 2016 #19
Israel Incapable of Telling Truth About Water It Steals From Palestinians Israeli Jul 2016 #24
Amira Hass, yet another terror supporter. She invoked Protocols of Elders of Zion. shira Jul 2016 #25
Summer is here- the water isn't....... Israeli Jul 2016 #7
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