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In reply to the discussion: Using stolen water to irrigate stolen land [View all]shira
(30,109 posts)23. Where did the UN, B'tselem, HRW get their numbers from? It was Hamas, wasn't it?
You trust Hamas over the IDF.
Problem is Hamas agreed with the IDF a year later, so what do you say to that?
Hamas military wing had previously claimed that only 49 of its militants were killed during the three-week operation that the IDF launched in December 2008. Israel had put the figure at 709.
In an interview with the London-based Al-Hayat daily last Monday, however, Hamas Interior Minister Fathi Hamad detailed the heavy price his group had paid during the war.
"They say that it was the people who were harmed in the last war," said Hamad. "Are we not part of the people nation? On the first day of the war, Israel attacked the police command and killed 250 martyrs, from Hamas and other factions."
"This was in addition to the 200-300 members of the Al-Qassam Brigade (Hamas' military wing) and 150 security personnel," Hamad added. "The rest of the fatalities were from among the civilian population."
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/hamas-admits-600-700-of-its-men-were-killed-in-cast-lead-1.323776
In an interview with the London-based Al-Hayat daily last Monday, however, Hamas Interior Minister Fathi Hamad detailed the heavy price his group had paid during the war.
"They say that it was the people who were harmed in the last war," said Hamad. "Are we not part of the people nation? On the first day of the war, Israel attacked the police command and killed 250 martyrs, from Hamas and other factions."
"This was in addition to the 200-300 members of the Al-Qassam Brigade (Hamas' military wing) and 150 security personnel," Hamad added. "The rest of the fatalities were from among the civilian population."
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/hamas-admits-600-700-of-its-men-were-killed-in-cast-lead-1.323776
Gee, Hamas' figure of 700 is pretty damned close to the IDF figure of 709. What a coincidence! Must be a Zionist conspiracy!
Your denial is ridiculous.
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"Do ya wanna tell me a story bout' trollops and plug tails? Please?" "Back home, Puff-guts would
Little Tich
Jul 2016
#3
For me, it's not logical that the UN, the World Bank, Amnesty, the French Parliament and B'tselem
Little Tich
Jul 2016
#5
You know they've lied before WRT denying Hamas human shields & child militants....
shira
Jul 2016
#6
Sometimes the truth has to fudged a little bit to fit with the Zionist narrative.
Little Tich
Jul 2016
#9
Here's just one example of B'tselem lying about civilian casualties from Cast Lead 2009
shira
Jul 2016
#11
So when different neutral organizations reach the same conclusion about the casualties independently
Little Tich
Jul 2016
#16
Those "different neutral" sources all got their info. from Hamas' Gaza Health Ministry
shira
Jul 2016
#18
It wasn't 69-75%. That was a lie Hamas admitted when they agreed w/ the IDF numbers....
shira
Jul 2016
#21
You trust Hamas' figures b/c that's where the UN, B'tselem, HRW got their numbers
shira
Jul 2016
#26
The Human rights NGOs are using available evidence, including figures from Hamas.
Little Tich
Jul 2016
#27
So basically, there aren't ANY groups who oppose what Netanyahu and Bennett do in the West Bank
Ken Burch
Jul 2016
#12
We're talking B'tselem here & you don't have a problem with their lies & incitement to hate....
shira
Jul 2016
#13
They actually aren't proven liars. It's just that the Israeli right refuses to accept
Ken Burch
Jul 2016
#17