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shira

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21. So if the definition of Apartheid is outdated & doesn't apply to Israel....
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:10 AM
Jun 2016

...then you have nothing to prove there's Apartheid in Israel.

The OP is trying to frame the the arguments for and against the Apartheid analogy, not to provide a definite conclusion. The definition of Apartheid is only an example, the OP doesn't really bother that much with presenting a definition of Apartheid.

Frankly, I don't have a good description of what Apartheid is either - the UN definition is too dependent on Apartheid South Africa to be of any real use. I would define Apartheid loosely as one group of civilians lacking civil rights while another group has them. I don't see ethnicity as a necessary factor, it's the lack of civil rights when others have them that's the main issue.

I hope you understand that I'm not impressed when you make up your own version of the arguments in the OP and then refute them.


Little Tich doesn't get to define Apartheid.
Or what constitutes Antisemitism for that matter.
BTW, that's why neither you or the BDS ass-hats are taken seriously by the Western world.

QED.

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More about the book: Little Tich Jun 2016 #1
Israeli Arabs & Palestinians within E.Jerusalem are the same race/ethnicity..... shira Jun 2016 #2
Your argument isn't very convincing - according to your logic, slavery in the antebellum South Little Tich Jun 2016 #5
You're comparing non-citizens to slaves. We have non-citizens in the US... shira Jun 2016 #7
Israel is the only country with two legal systems for civilians - Little Tich Jun 2016 #11
It's called occupation, not apartheid. Whatever separation there is is based on citizenship.... shira Jun 2016 #13
Yor argument isn't very convincing - according to you, there was never any Apartheid in South Africa Little Tich Jun 2016 #16
Nonsense. And as usual, you completely evaded what I wrote to you... shira Jun 2016 #17
The PA only has very limited powers - it's completely under IDF jurisdiction, Little Tich Jun 2016 #23
That's complete bullshit. The UN recognizes the Palestinian gov't & Israel has no control.... shira Jun 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #27
So the guy who shot Kathryn Steinle should be deported instead of charged with a crime??? Little Tich Jun 2016 #28
Sorry, saw the source and moved on... King_David Jun 2016 #3
(allAfrica): South Africa: Are Comparisons of South African Apartheid and Israel Useful? Little Tich Jun 2016 #4
See #2. Until the 'Apartheid' camp addresses that, they're all disingenuous Jew-baiters. shira Jun 2016 #6
Short answer: no. Next question: is posting anti-Semitic crap from Mondoweiss useful? Fozzledick Jun 2016 #8
That's what the anti-Israel movement is all about. Incitement & hate.... shira Jun 2016 #10
This article disingenuously claims Apartheid within Israel... shira Jun 2016 #9
The OP doesn't accuse Israel of Apartheid against Israeli Arabs. Little Tich Jun 2016 #12
The 2nd paragraph you quoted proves it. The paper is about Apartheid.... shira Jun 2016 #14
The OP avoids making a conclusion whether the situation in the occupied territories and Israel Little Tich Jun 2016 #15
You avoided the bulk of my last post.... shira Jun 2016 #18
I'm beginning to see why you don't understand Atzmon's argumentation in all those other threads... Little Tich Jun 2016 #19
So if the definition of Apartheid is outdated & doesn't apply to Israel.... shira Jun 2016 #21
In a way, you're excluding yourself from discussing the viability of the Apartheid analogy if you Little Tich Jun 2016 #25
I'm going by any common definition of Apartheid. Israel doesn't fit the bill.... shira Jun 2016 #26
I and everyone else - including BDS leaders - know Atzmon's crap is antisemitic... shira Jun 2016 #22
To be clear, your BEST case for Apartheid is in area C....not areas A or B or in Gaza. shira Jun 2016 #20
Are comparisons of South African apartheid and Israel useful? Israeli Jun 2016 #29
Interesting. Do you have more? n/t Little Tich Jun 2016 #30
More info on the Truth Commission ? Israeli Jun 2016 #31
Thanks. n/t Little Tich Jun 2016 #32
Zochrot: Second panel | Live testimonies Amnon Neumann - Jewish witness – 1948 fighter Little Tich Jun 2016 #36
The latest Mondoweiss incitement... shira Jun 2016 #33
Jerusalem Day March Through Old City Passes in Relative Calm Little Tich Jun 2016 #34
Fortunately you have "Israeli" here to confirm whether the translation is correct... shira Jun 2016 #35
What's the point? Little Tich Jun 2016 #37
Why didnt you ask me ??? Israeli Jun 2016 #38
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