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Little Tich

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13. I think you misrepresent the attitudes revealed in the poll to mean something less than they do.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:05 PM
Mar 2016

It would be more in line with your reasoning if the issue was only about giving rights to Jews, perhaps that wouldn't even be racist, as there would be no victims. The main reason why I'm arguing that the attitudes revealed in the poll are racist, is because they show a preference for discriminating against and even mistreating a definite group of people. The two poll questions that I consider to be actively racist against non-Jews are these:


"Most Israeli Jews (79%) say Jews deserve preferential treatment in Israel"

Source: http://www.pewforum.org/2016/03/08/israels-religiously-divided-society/pf_2016-03-08_israel-01-07/

Please note that this question is about Jews deserving preferential treatment in Israel, not about receiving citizenship or retaining a Jewish majority. It's about one Israeli citizen having more rights than another Israeli citizen due to ethnicity only.


"Majority of Haredim, Datiim agree Arabs should be expelled"

Source: http://www.pewforum.org/2016/03/08/israels-religiously-divided-society/pf_2016-03-08_israel-01-10/

There is no way a desire to expel Arabs can be anything than racist under any circumstances, whether it's Israeli Arabs or those living in East Jerusalem, Gaza or the West Bank.

OTOH, there are two questions in the poll that you've brought up to prove that the poll doesn't reveal racist attitudes. I don't think that the answers to those questions reveal racist attitudes either, they're OK. I just don't think they do anything to mitigate the racist attitudes in the two poll questions above.


"Nearly unanimous share agree all Jews should have the right to citizenship in Israel"

Source: http://www.pewforum.org/2016/03/08/israels-religiously-divided-society/pf_2016-03-08_israel-01-05/
I don't know if I would disagree either...


"Most Jews say Israel necessary for long-term survival of the Jewish people"

http://www.pewforum.org/2016/03/08/israels-religiously-divided-society/pf_2016-03-08_israel-01-06/
Tricky one, but not racist...

Anyway, this OP is about Balad, and if you have more specific dirt on them than just accusing them of being "Hezbollah supporters with neo-nazi agendas (supporting the murder of random Jews)" please show me...

"What about the rights of the LGBT community in a secular and democratic country? " King_David Mar 2016 #1
Being against the discrimination of Israeli Arabs isn't enough for me to support Arab MKs. Little Tich Mar 2016 #2
Thanks I didn't know you read Hebrew azurnoir Mar 2016 #3
I don't. I'm just very good with Google translate. n/t Little Tich Mar 2016 #4
I'm pretty sure you are not among those of us here that do King_David Mar 2016 #8
you're right I don't there's a few others here that do not either and one that says he doesn't azurnoir Mar 2016 #9
This demonstrates the idiocy of the BDS 1-state vision. shira Mar 2016 #5
I don't think Balad is a problem for Israel's democracy. Little Tich Mar 2016 #6
You fear honest discussion of these issues. I challenged you days ago.... shira Mar 2016 #7
I'll make this easier for you... shira Mar 2016 #11
I think you misrepresent the attitudes revealed in the poll to mean something less than they do. Little Tich Mar 2016 #13
The real problem is that these poll questions are flawed shira Mar 2016 #14
First off, I must say that I personally can't support anyone who supports Hezbollah. Little Tich Mar 2016 #15
Disgusting right wing ideology King_David Mar 2016 #10
I dare anyone reading that to continue advocating for 1- secular state. shira Mar 2016 #12
Actually, for once I agree with you KD .... Israeli Mar 2016 #16
It's good we agree, King_David Mar 2016 #17
Agree, how? That Balad is extreme Rightwing....but so is EoZ too? n/t shira Mar 2016 #18
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