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In reply to the discussion: What is masculinity? [View all]

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
39. Too complicated to define just like feminity.
Fri May 17, 2013, 10:14 AM
May 2013

I'm female and take the garbage and recyclables out every week. My husband mows the lawn and I really want to learn but he likes doing it but isn't opposed to teaching me.

I got rid of a half eaten chimpmunk the other day thanks to our cat.

My husband does most of the grocery shopping; he loves it I hate it.

He has never gotten into a physical altercation in his life. Embarrassingly, I have thrown a few punches a long time ago at men and women. It sounds low class, but I had a temper and it was usually sticking up for friends or someone said something really rude that I went off on. You would never know it by looking at me, but I have a mean right hook.

This OP makes me think of William Hurt in The Big Chill. He was my favorite character and I was so attracted to him even though he couldn't "perform."

Shit, now I probably embarrassed myself with inane rambling so I'm out.

Edited to add: I probably didn't respond accurately to what the OP was questioning. Sorry...have been really busy and checked in briefly. My husband is very mellow, low key and respectful to all women and men. I'm the one that will usually battle someone verbally although he gets into discussions about politics with co-workers but they are "friendly." About 5 years ago we went to this huge neighborhood bash and I got into it with another neighbor (I initiated) but it was friendly banter and then another neighbor (who are the only other liberals in our hood and we are now good friends) chimed in. It was when the death panel bullshit was going around. I was pretty under the influence and he (the dem) lives right across the street so he bummed a ride home as his wife left early with their baby and I was like "do yo have any gas money? Oh yeah, never mind I'm not a republican." I thought that was pretty freaking funny on my part. I always fill my guy on certain "controversies" here and he always agrees with me and other members who share the same opinions. He and I have so much in common...politics, humor, music...etc.

I have a pretty foul mouth and my husband rarely swears. He can be a hardass at work (he's referred to as Tony Soprano). I love my makeup and considered certain plastic surgeries which he was against because he didn't think I needed them but said it was my decision.

I just think it's really hard to define. Btw, he does have #4 down as well.

Sorry again for the rant...good topic that made me think.



What is masculinity? [View all] lumberjack_jeff May 2013 OP
simply galileoreloaded May 2013 #1
I answered this question in another thread: ZombieHorde May 2013 #2
I think if you're not creating that definition for yourself, you're missing the key point. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #5
What is the benefit of defining masculinity? nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #9
Self esteem. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #13
The part about self esteem seems right to me. ZombieHorde May 2013 #41
I think I'd agree that masculinity is mostly if not entirely subjective. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #42
Hmmmm. Okay, I've got #4, down. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #6
If racoons weren't up to no good they wouldn't feel the need to wear those masks. nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #10
Those things freak me out. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #14
The solution isn't to shoot them, but shoot *near* them. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #16
Good advice. ZombieHorde May 2013 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author radicalliberal Feb 2016 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author radicalliberal Jul 2016 #50
To me those should be adult characteristics noamnety May 2013 #3
"I guess I'm trying to contrast that with femininity, and what that list would look like." lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #4
which one of these traits are exclusively male? nt seabeyond May 2013 #7
Are the only valid feminine traits ones that zero men exhibit? lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #8
i am totally clueless about this whole femininity crap, too. i have ask for people to help me out seabeyond May 2013 #11
I think the same arguments hold true for women and femininity. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #15
would you really accept the definition of feminine to be nurturer. you, a father, seabeyond May 2013 #17
possibly becase you are more masculine than many women galileoreloaded May 2013 #20
nope. my ring finger is not longer than index. yes, i have a very pumped up seabeyond May 2013 #24
serum T is a very apt predictor of male aggression and masculine traits. galileoreloaded May 2013 #29
lol lol... ya. i gotcha. the monkey thing. those promoting the T the most are the ones that seabeyond May 2013 #30
what do they call people that shun science? galileoreloaded May 2013 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond May 2013 #33
I accept your definition of feminine that you apply to you as valid. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #21
ok. that is not MY definition. i do not have a definition. that is the issue. cause your seabeyond May 2013 #25
Nurture can take on different meanings to different people Major Nikon May 2013 #44
i can explain how femininity manifests galileoreloaded May 2013 #19
Without knowing more about the guy... lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #22
its rob zombie galileoreloaded May 2013 #28
The post to which I'm replying is almost three years old. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #47
wha??? i see nothing in that picture that lets me know how feminine nor how masculine. nada. seabeyond May 2013 #26
My view of feminity is the same as my view on masculinity. ZombieHorde May 2013 #23
i do too. and the older i get, the more sure i am. raising two boys and seeing how they seabeyond May 2013 #27
I also like this discussion and in no way meant to reject Lumber's thread. nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #31
I don't really disagree that any rhetorical definition is on shaky footing. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #34
That sounds wise to me. nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #35
but... i do need to say, i appreciate the thread and the effort you make in the defining. seabeyond May 2013 #12
I do not understand why masculinity or femininity MadrasT May 2013 #36
This is more the case, in my opinion, of reclaiming Bonobo May 2013 #37
I had a similar thought several hours later. MadrasT May 2013 #40
Funny, I say essentially the same thing Warren DeMontague May 2013 #38
Too complicated to define just like feminity. RiffRandell May 2013 #39
"Masculine" is one end of a continuum of which the other end is "Feminine" HuskiesHowls May 2013 #43
baby, don't hurt me. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #45
Masculinity is a who not a what. westerebus May 2013 #46
to be a man scubasteve76 Feb 2016 #49
it's... here2help Jul 2016 #51
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