Men's Group
In reply to the discussion: Was this really necessary? [View all]libodem
(19,288 posts)And was surprised at how dejected I soon felt. At first I thought fu, and then I puddled up and cried awhile. But I'm female, so I wasn't totally shocked. I am usually unsentimental, I don't cry easily.
I have had feminist leanings since the 70' s. I'm prochoice. I'm equal pay. But I'm sex positive, so I'm excluded from the circle. I've publicly stated that the word bitch, should be reclaimed and worn like a badge of honor, and not huddled sobbing in a corner over.Some Mods, used to advance search, DU2, looking for bitch references to delete. I'm clearly on the wrong side of the cool kids.
I'm still trying to analyze the schism. It might be a "wave" issue? A generational thing. I'm nearly 60. I think many of the current members of the groups are 30-40, and have families and husbands. They are concerned very much about deleterious effect of porn and the sex trade. The use of any 'slur' word trumps global warming and world peace, as an issue, as far as I can tell. I see quite a bit of, "you are trying to shut us up!", "we will not be made to stfu", protests. I take from that that they care about being heard and understood, want to be treated with respect, and the physical form of the female body, should be properly presented as chaste, modest, covered, and not sexualized for attracting attention. If a man does admire, it is called the "unwanted male gaze" and can cause shame and disgust, in the female. I'm still studying this phenomena for more clues as to how to get along. I suspect, I'll never be accepted. I read, recommend, and run.