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In reply to the discussion: is there actually people who believe that all men are rapists and attracted to little girls [View all]4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)41. I tried my best but couldn't find any of those articles
in full on the internet (for free. I'm not paying 30 bucks for one).
So unfortunately I can't look at the methodology they used. But given that most have some version of "coerce" in their title I'm guessing we aren't talking about the same thing.
I found this definition for sexual coercion: http://www.fit.edu/caps/documents/SexualCoercion_000.pdf
The act of using pressure ... to have sexual contact:
Pressure in this case can mean physical pressure, verbal pressure or emotional pressure. Physical pressure
can include hitting, kicking and slapping the victim; holding the victim down; continuing with the sexual behavior after the victim has been told to stop; and even continuing to kiss the victim as he/she tries to pull away. (seems reasonable) Verbal pressure includes behaviors like threatening to use physical force against the victim, yelling at the victim, name calling, tricking, lying, blackmailing and badgering the victim. (no problem so far) Emotional pressure is used much more frequently than physical and verbal pressure and is the most subtle of all the sexual coercion tactics. Using emotional pressure includes the perpetrator convincing the victim that he/she cares more for the victim than he/she actually does, threatening a break-up, wearing the victim down by using the same tactic over and over again, making the victim feel obligated to participate in sexual acts, guilting the victim participating, utilizing peer pressure and even the perpetrator using his/her position of authority over the victim.
What? Asking for sex more than once is rape. Saying not having sex is a deal breaker for your relationship is rape. Saying you love her when maybe you don't really then having sex is rape.
I'm surprised by those definitions they were only able to indict 14% of men.
Surely we can all agree that a guy saying he is no longer interested in dating a girl if she doesn't have sex with him is vastly different and in no way belongs in the same category as raping someone by force or by intoxicants.
Oh and here are some examples they use:
Everybodys doing it.
Sex is the way to prove your love for me.
Weve had sex before, so you cant say no now.
Giving compliments that sound extreme or insincere.
Put-downs or guilt trips
Buying gifts or spending money to make you feel you owe sex.
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is there actually people who believe that all men are rapists and attracted to little girls [View all]
loli phabay
Aug 2012
OP
that is a novel, and what you posted is a literary device known as hyperbole.
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2012
#3
You equated a man who talked to a woman in an elevator with a serial killer/rapist
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#10
You can look at a random person for a few seconds and determine her entire life-experience
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#17
No I said you could not sustain your assertion that 0.1% of men commit all the rapes.
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2012
#14
Well logically it has to fall somewhere between 1 person and 51 million men (16%)
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#24
You actually believe about 1 in 15 of the men you meet are rapists?
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#31
Yep, a small number among those who aren't caught, & none of them consider what they did as rape. nt
redqueen
Aug 2012
#72
Since one in 18 men (5.5%) are CURRENTLY behind bars or being monitored,
lumberjack_jeff
Aug 2012
#67
I'm curious what those stats would be if they included statutory rape
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#20
you tell me. I don't know. I objected to the assertion that 99.9% arent.
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2012
#37
You've been presented with the data to back up my assertion that the number
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2012
#43
There were the famous flaps on some College Campuses in the late 80s, early 90s
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#52