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In reply to the discussion: Why Gail Dines Is About As Leftist As The Tea Party [View all]proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)16. Extreme porn is illegal in the UK. Dines describes and questions the parameters of legal in the US.
http://calebposner.com/tag/max-hardcore/
Sections 62 through 67 of the 2008 Criminal Justice Act (UK) makes it a punishable offense, for which one may receive three years in prison, to possess pornography that meets the outlined definition of extreme. Legally, pornography is regard as extreme if any action depicted therein (can) threaten a persons life, results, or is likely to result, in serious injury to..."
It turns out however that as many as 9.5 million UK residents could be guilty of violating this law, or so claims Backlash (the chief opponent of this law)... But in the age of the internet, there exists an ample online supply of such material courtesy of Brazil, Japan, the United States, and a great multitude of European nations...
Sections 62 through 67 of the 2008 Criminal Justice Act (UK) makes it a punishable offense, for which one may receive three years in prison, to possess pornography that meets the outlined definition of extreme. Legally, pornography is regard as extreme if any action depicted therein (can) threaten a persons life, results, or is likely to result, in serious injury to..."
It turns out however that as many as 9.5 million UK residents could be guilty of violating this law, or so claims Backlash (the chief opponent of this law)... But in the age of the internet, there exists an ample online supply of such material courtesy of Brazil, Japan, the United States, and a great multitude of European nations...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gail-dines/adventures-in-pornland_b_636381.html
...Using interviews with hundreds of college-age students, Pornland takes a close look at what it means for young women and men to grow up in such a culture and how it shapes their identities, sexualities, and ideas about intimacy, relationships, and connection.
...Using interviews with hundreds of college-age students, Pornland takes a close look at what it means for young women and men to grow up in such a culture and how it shapes their identities, sexualities, and ideas about intimacy, relationships, and connection.
"One problem I knew I had to deal with as I was writing the book was the inevitable accusation that, because I am anti-porn, I must be an anti-sex prude who is out to police people's sex lives. To criticize porn today is to be seen as criticizing sex, because--thanks to the porn PR machine--porn has now become synonymous with sex.
The way I address this in the book is to ask the reader what would happen if this book were a critique of McDonald's for its exploitive labor practices, its destruction of the environment, and its impact on our diet and health. Would I be accused of being anti-eating or anti-food? I suspect that most readers would understand that the critique was focused on the large-scale impact of the fast-food industry and not the human need, experience, and joy of eating. So I say in the preface that this book should be read as a critique of the industrialization and commodification of sex by corporate predators, and not as an attack on sex itself.
It is this industrial setting that often gets ignored in the heated debates over porn..."
The way I address this in the book is to ask the reader what would happen if this book were a critique of McDonald's for its exploitive labor practices, its destruction of the environment, and its impact on our diet and health. Would I be accused of being anti-eating or anti-food? I suspect that most readers would understand that the critique was focused on the large-scale impact of the fast-food industry and not the human need, experience, and joy of eating. So I say in the preface that this book should be read as a critique of the industrialization and commodification of sex by corporate predators, and not as an attack on sex itself.
It is this industrial setting that often gets ignored in the heated debates over porn..."
Google: forbes extreme porn revenues
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=forbes+extreme+porn+revenues&oq=forbes+extreme+porn+revenues&gs_l=hp.3...3187.9345.1.9608.14.14.0.0.0.0.661.1901.3-1j2j1.4.0...0.0...1c.GXg61VJqFT4&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=cead04954accb9ad&biw=1725&bih=850
Don't like Dines? Forget Dines then. Read FORBES http://www.forbes.com/sites/susannahbreslin/2012/07/30/the-porn-convention/3/ and see derek miller 5 days ago (comments, p3) ignoring the 2nd paragraph for a remarkably Dines-like opinion. Breslin states, "This is very dramatic, but not entirely true." Time will tell.
Or see more of Breslin's own writing where she takes on libertarian defenders like Glenn Greenwald.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/susannahbreslin/2011/07/21/adult-director-max-hardcore-released-from-prison-2/
7/21/2011
Adult director Max Hardcore released from prison
...In response, I wrote a post about the very hardcore realities of a Hardcore movie. (Warning: This post contains graphic language.)
7/21/2011
Adult director Max Hardcore released from prison
...In response, I wrote a post about the very hardcore realities of a Hardcore movie. (Warning: This post contains graphic language.)
Breslin presents objective observations. This corroborates Dines minus any spin.
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One, if I had a walnut for every subjective OPINION that Dines tries to pass off as universal
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#6
When challenged on her sources, Gail Dines has been repeately shown to either misrepresent
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#13
AVN isn't readily searchable via google, as I discovered after briefly attempting to provide a link.
proverbialwisdom
Aug 2012
#14
Extreme porn is illegal in the UK. Dines describes and questions the parameters of legal in the US.
proverbialwisdom
Aug 2012
#16
You're avoiding answering my questions. And this thread is ABOUT Dines.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#17
Nice try. My guess is that anyone actually informed doesn't equate porn and extreme porn.
proverbialwisdom
Aug 2012
#18
Your guess? Your guess would be wrong, because that sort of conflation is exactly the basis
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#21
RE: You're avoiding answering my questions. And this thread is ABOUT Dines.
proverbialwisdom
Aug 2012
#19
If Dines is discredited, AND her methodology is Discredited, and her source material is discredited
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#20
RE: AVN article. Her presentation below contains a slide with the source material plus discussion.
proverbialwisdom
Oct 2012
#31
Gail Dines is a transphobic bigot. Bigots are not welcome in this group and transphobia is not
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#32
Gail Dines was just a keynote speaker at an event headed by transphobic bigots
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#7
More on the allegations of transphobic bigotry at the conference Dines endorsed w/ a keynote speech:
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2012
#11
This is not an open forum for right wingers and their enablers to broadcast propaganda.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#24
I am not going to allow this group to be a forum for bigots of any stripe.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#27
No, I'm talking about posting an hour long video of Gail Dines opining on whatever.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#29
Professor Gail Dines and Professor Sheila Jeffreys are being misrepresented on this thread.
proverbialwisdom
Oct 2012
#33
You have been informed that the mens group is not a place for the promotion of transgender bigotry.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#34
Another DU Feminists Group (Catherina) Thread on Jeffreys' trans bigotry:
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#36
"The act which men commonly perform on prostituted women is penis-in-vagina sexual intercourse.
LadyHawkAZ
Oct 2012
#38
Apparently, from what I've heard, this is a awful horrible pit of pure horrible awfulness.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#40
I'm not a fan of Gail Dines, but I'm sure there have been more convincing/logical critiques of her
fishwax
Oct 2012
#44
"She's wrapping her authoritarian-based complaint in a veneer of progressivism."
4th law of robotics
Oct 2012
#52
Are you suggesting that, say, "Morality in Media".... has some sort of right-wing, religious agenda?
Warren DeMontague
May 2014
#66