Barack Obama

Dragonfli

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16. I am not a kid, this is the same plan it was when Dole and Gingrich were pimping it.

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:38 PM

Jul 2013

It is a platform for a product that if one can even afford to buy one will most likely not be able to afford to use due to co-pays and deductibles designed to discourage users of this non-existent product from actually using it.

What is with the class tiered health access anyway? If one can only afford "bronze" because one is lower class one will also lack the cash needed for the inflated co-pays and deductibles that come with such "competitive" bronze plans.

I imagine those with lots of disposable income and gold plans will be happy with such a platform, the rest of us that won't be able to afford actual care under the bronze will just have to suck it up and stop being such a downer about not getting care yet paying for a vulture service that is little better than a "bronze" piece of expensive paper.

Do you agree with a class tier system of health care availability and delivery because it allows the precious market to provide to the worthy above all else, because that was The Foundations Rationale when developing this vulture market scam.

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We need more positive Obama news on the homepage [View all] Politicub Jul 2013 OP

Wow, universal access to for-profit healthcare insurance. That's some deal there. Scuba Jul 2013 #1

It's a fantastic deal Politicub Jul 2013 #5

Yeah, I have no clue, only having worked as a hospital CXO for 32 years. Scuba Jul 2013 #9

My comment is true and still stands, which you ignored completely. freshwest Jul 2013 #13

Eh. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #26

actually Pres Obama got what he could and we're fortunate to have Cha Jul 2013 #19

We posted at the same time Cha~ sheshe2 Jul 2013 #24

And I, Cha Jul 2013 #30

I'll stay at the helm, Cha~ sheshe2 Jul 2013 #32

Cool, she.. Cha Jul 2013 #35

"actually Pres Obama got what he could" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #60

No, he got what could pass and a Strong Foundation to build on. Cha Jul 2013 #85

This is the BOG as you know Scuba... sheshe2 Jul 2013 #20

Yep BobbyBoring Jul 2013 #52

Really? Which state program is that? Politicub Jul 2013 #66

The State of Confusion perhaps? n/t Whisp Jul 2013 #141

Or the District of... Politicub Jul 2013 #156

Aw, Snap! Civilization2 Jul 2013 #53

Don't worry, you won't be "getting started" on anything else to Cha Jul 2013 #89

That's what I'd like to have too Just Saying Jul 2013 #77

Let's see what the President does when Democrats increase their xtraxritical Jul 2013 #84

From your keyboard to God's ear Just Saying Jul 2013 #87

I certainly hope brush Jul 2013 #127

thanks for getting the realilty of the issue, Just Saying Cha Jul 2013 #92

True, but NONE of what you said makes it progressive. And, that was the point in the OP. n/t Dawgs Jul 2013 #145

Who knew a Heritage Foundation insurance scam Dragonfli Jul 2013 #8

You deny the ACA is a platform Politicub Jul 2013 #10

I am not a kid, this is the same plan it was when Dole and Gingrich were pimping it. Dragonfli Jul 2013 #16

I danced around my living room when the House passed the ACA Politicub Jul 2013 #70

Yes, it will help an entire vulture business model to flourish and leave actual care unaffordable Dragonfli Jul 2013 #74

So your opinion is: nothing is better than something? Politicub Jul 2013 #113

So, we went from "the most progressive in my lifetime" to "better than nothing"? Dawgs Jul 2013 #146

You must be a blast to talk to at a party Politicub Jul 2013 #158

Ah, reduced to making fun when you don't have an intelligent argument. Dawgs Jul 2013 #163

All you have are talking points to bring down Obamacare and it's Cha Jul 2013 #134

The Heritage Foundation never intended to cover people with expensive pre-existing conditions BenzoDia Jul 2013 #62

Nice link! Politicub Jul 2013 #67

Thanks, I updated it with an interview with Mark Pauly who came up with the idea for Republicans. BenzoDia Jul 2013 #68

Again, great stuff Politicub Jul 2013 #72

Well, you can join the Heritage Foundation if you find their views and history rewrites great stuff Dragonfli Jul 2013 #78

I stand corrected Politicub Jul 2013 #83

See post 81. The Republican proposal allows insurers to set lifetime caps, thus denying coverage to BenzoDia Jul 2013 #94

Or we can join the Dutch and Swiss since they have private insurance mandates as well. BenzoDia Jul 2013 #97

right wing trash, I posted the summery of the bill they are trying to disavow now. Dragonfli Jul 2013 #71

That is just pure misinformation put out by a right wing site trying to rewrite history Dragonfli Jul 2013 #69

Let's see, also from Kaiser Health News: BenzoDia Jul 2013 #81

Well the employers are being left off the hook for now, maybe forever, Medicaid expansion Dragonfli Jul 2013 #99

Other than the details and hypotheticals, they're exactly the same! BenzoDia Jul 2013 #111

And when they find fuzzy-minded people to put up with their crap IrishAyes Jul 2013 #91

My father, husband and other friends and family members would have been alive today with the ACA. freshwest Jul 2013 #12

.. Politicub Jul 2013 #23

First JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #36

Amazing post, as usual JAG. Number23 Jul 2013 #118

Thanks freshwest... ucrdem Jul 2013 #126

Still. That doesn't make it progressive, as suggested in the OP. n/t Dawgs Jul 2013 #148

You do realize, this is the Barack Obama group, not GD? graham4anything Jul 2013 #51

They know, Graham, they know... as they so often state, THEY DON'T CARE IrishAyes Jul 2013 #80

ACA includes funding and deals for non-profit insurers. BenzoDia Jul 2013 #54

It's become the DDU----Debbie Downer Underground thelordofhell Jul 2013 #2

Home page is a bit of a puzzle. ucrdem Jul 2013 #3

Obama is not progressive. ananda Jul 2013 #4

.. Politicub Jul 2013 #6

Strongly disagree, on just about every issue too. ucrdem Jul 2013 #7

His post was directly about President Obama xtraxritical Jul 2013 #88

Thanks. I notice you haven't given this thread a rec. Why don't you? ucrdem Jul 2013 #123

OK I did. How could you tell I forgot to do that? xtraxritical Jul 2013 #124

Thanks. We in the BOG have our ways. ucrdem Jul 2013 #125

Yes, he is.. We've made lots of Progress over the years. Cha Jul 2013 #15

Are you a Democrat? MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #57

However a man is known by the company he keeps. truedelphi Jul 2013 #11

I prefer this list Politicub Jul 2013 #21

People are getting here from the homepage "general discussion" xtraxritical Jul 2013 #90

Yeah, yeah, we know you don't like Pres Obama.. Cha Jul 2013 #25

He appoints those who he thinks will be the best nineteen50 Jul 2013 #33

Then you should have voted JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #37

I voted for Obama once never voted for Romney I hope next time we nineteen50 Jul 2013 #40

So did you JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #56

That's ignorant.. ignorance is not Cha Jul 2013 #38

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #39

Yes, I can see you're being "cockroach" and know all about them. Cha Jul 2013 #43

Cockroaches? JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #58

Are you seriously comparing a group of like-minded people to cockroaches Politicub Jul 2013 #59

So gun nuts can't post in the Gun Reform group, but Obama haters can post in BOG? WTF? nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #14

Obama haters are shown the door and blocked from membership. grantcart Jul 2013 #18

How do you alert a host? By hitting the alert button at the bottom of the post? nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #22

PM them Sunseeker. Cha Jul 2013 #27

Sounds fascist. nineteen50 Jul 2013 #42

Your ignorance is showing Politicub Jul 2013 #65

People are getting here from the homepage "general discussion". xtraxritical Jul 2013 #96

I should have mentioned GD in my post Politicub Jul 2013 #112

That's telling it! IrishAyes Jul 2013 #105

If someone came in your house uninvited and unwanted, off the public street, IrishAyes Jul 2013 #103

but then, what do you know about it? that's right, Cha Jul 2013 #129

Most of this day has been one long trash session IrishAyes Jul 2013 #86

If we do that, IrishAyes Jul 2013 #98

We have a zero tolerance policy however sometimes, as happened today, someone grantcart Jul 2013 #121

Excellent sig line, btw IrishAyes Jul 2013 #147

By the way, I'm right there with you Pliticub. This place has gone nuts. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #17

so people can come over here and bash Obama on threads too? Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #28

Politicubs post is on Homepage, general discussion, trending now, right now. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #100

Learn the rules of the groups before you post. sheshe2 Jul 2013 #107

I feel the same way! n/t AnnieK401 Jul 2013 #29

Karl Rove (Neo-con) said in 2008 to Ron Suskind nineteen50 Jul 2013 #34

Being the Barack Obama Group.. we don't really give a Cha Jul 2013 #130

It is strange territory these days! madamesilverspurs Jul 2013 #31

I'm hoping it's because school is out for the summer. LOL. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #45

too funny -- translation stupidicus Jul 2013 #41

The OP is in plain English Just Saying Jul 2013 #114

SO was my post stupidicus Jul 2013 #116

Yeah, see I didn't try to translate yours Just Saying Jul 2013 #119

because you say so? stupidicus Jul 2013 #152

No I don't consider my line about influence bashing. Just Saying Jul 2013 #153

oh you poor thing stupidicus Jul 2013 #155

Lmao at your long winded response! Just Saying Jul 2013 #157

thanks for tacitly conceding the validity of my observations and remarks stupidicus Jul 2013 #161

Nope didn't read this one either. Just Saying Jul 2013 #162

further tacit concessions were neither solicited nor warranted stupidicus Jul 2013 #165

Seems like depressors Iliyah Jul 2013 #44

Obama bashing mehrrh Jul 2013 #46

Exactly, let's withhold judgment until we Democrats increase our xtraxritical Jul 2013 #102

exactly, politicub! hopemountain Jul 2013 #47

this x 1000's NT sigmasix Jul 2013 #117

When a person cannot handle REALITY Demeter Jul 2013 #48

Wrong. This is the Reality Based Group of Barack Obama.. Cha Jul 2013 #95

No. The OP was talking about DU in general. Not just this group. n/t Dawgs Jul 2013 #149

I don't care. No one comes in this group with their ignorant, holier than Cha Jul 2013 #160

the reality, demeter is that hopemountain Jul 2013 #128

Brilliant post, hopemountain.. thank you, Cha Jul 2013 #131

PBO had big job to do when he arrived, dont think he is finished but i will stick with him. Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #49

You already know the answer to this Number23 Jul 2013 #50

How about more positive posts when we see some positive CHANGE! Civilization2 Jul 2013 #55

AMEN to That! beachgirl2365 Jul 2013 #61

Front page news items shouldn't be propaganda pieces. mia Jul 2013 #63

Want a "pick-me-up?" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #64

Yes. bunnies Jul 2013 #108

Then the President needs to close Gitmo, clear out of Afghanistan, avoid Syria.... marble falls Jul 2013 #73

Obviously President Obama cannot close Guantanamo on his Cha Jul 2013 #104

Psssssssssssst...It's Politics, yes? FFS! BornLooser Jul 2013 #75

Welcome to DU! Politicub Jul 2013 #79

Thanks! BornLooser Jul 2013 #106

"what it all boils down to...We fight for each other" mia Jul 2013 #93

Thanks mia! BornLooser Jul 2013 #110

DU has been overrun with barn rats lately IrishAyes Jul 2013 #76

Nobody's leaving it up to the juries, IrishAyes. Cha Jul 2013 #101

But will anyone actually show them the door? IrishAyes Jul 2013 #109

They're being blocked behind the scenes.. they won't be Cha Jul 2013 #120

I will take your word for it, Cha. IrishAyes Jul 2013 #144

Do People Have The Right To Criticize This President? Parable Arable Jul 2013 #150

Very well said. IrishAyes Jul 2013 #154

Great post, Parable Arable. They're just jealous.. we know them by Cha Jul 2013 #159

I love this post and completely Just Saying Jul 2013 #82

The fact that posts like this in the BOG Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #115

That's what I think, Summer.. thank you for Cha Jul 2013 #132

And thank you, Cha, for all you do. Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #137

Yeah, I can see that. Cha Jul 2013 #140

The fact is, Cha Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #142

I know exactly how you and they feel, Summer. I made my Cha Jul 2013 #143

We need more positive Obama news IRL. reusrename Jul 2013 #122

It's around.. usually buried under a mountaiin of crap.. One reason we Cha Jul 2013 #133

As for your first link, I live in FL. As for the second link, I admit he has good intentions. reusrename Jul 2013 #138

More.. :) Cha Jul 2013 #135

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #136

Actually, I thought you were serious and now I see you're not Cha Jul 2013 #139

More positive action by Obama would create more positive news stories. No? on point Jul 2013 #151

Do positive jobs numbers ring a bell? Jamaal510 Jul 2013 #164