Election Reform

Mopar151

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46. Our system needs a massive overhaul - by Sept. 1 at latest

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:20 AM

Apr 2016

It's obvious to me that elements of both parties (allied with RNC/DNC) have figured that their strategies to cheat up the elections were worth more to their interests than truly honest elections.
IMHO, we should go direct to the gold standard - a hand marked, hand counted paper ballot! Election night results using machine counting and computer tabulation should be provisional, and a manual, hand count and open tabulation (within 48() hours)should be the offical results. This will take a LOT of people the first time around - perhaps "drafted" from the federal court system, or mobilized elements of the National Guard.
Worth every dime, to me. The very integrity and legitimacy of our government is at stake.

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Greg Palast: New York voting fiasco just the warm-up for the November game [View all] SusanCalvin Apr 2016 OP

No wonder H won so 'big' RobertEarl Apr 2016 #1

bullshit. republicans are going to do this all over the country and certainot Apr 2016 #39

This scscholar Apr 2016 #76

Sanders was behind it all. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #48

Bullshit. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #54

Your side first. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #56

I did no such thing. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #57

The person I replied to DID insinuate that. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #70

I'm not interested in the person you replied to. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #79

Read this 1st person account from a poll worker in New York. jane123 Apr 2016 #60

Bookmarked for outrageousness Baobab Apr 2016 #67

Not really a joke, as much as a point. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #71

Give me some examples of outrageous things people have said about Hillary that made you feel like Baobab Apr 2016 #75

Sure. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #80

Could you say what they said, I am just finding circular - its not clear to me what they said. Baobab Apr 2016 #81

They purged "inactive" voters... the ones most likely to be motivated by Sanders... modestybl Apr 2016 #69

Were the election laws and rules changed for this primary? Amimnoch Apr 2016 #72

It's not only the rules, its what gets enforced... modestybl Apr 2016 #74

Ah! Greg Palast! Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #2

Ain't that the sad and simple truth. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #3

Probably some of them were independents following the widespread online advice to request pnwmom Apr 2016 #4

And probably they weren't. See how that works? Raster Apr 2016 #5

ABC's exit poll said close to 20% of Dem primary voters identified themselves as independent. pnwmom Apr 2016 #6

Looks like maybe I picked the wrong excerpt to post. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #8

The poll worker has worked this before. If it was independents he would have said so. newthinking Apr 2016 #9

We know that independents were being urged to vote by provisional ballot pnwmom Apr 2016 #10

K&R Progressive dog Apr 2016 #42

That does need to be stressed. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #51

How were the poll books set up? LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #24

In NY, there are separate books by party Progressive dog Apr 2016 #44

Thank you for that info. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #50

Probably the 126,000 who were kicked off the voting roles. Stop rationalizing Election Fraud as a Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #11

They haven't determined exactly what happened, but it's possible it was connected pnwmom Apr 2016 #14

Yes we do but with the fox guarding the investigation henhouse all the evidence will be in the Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #28

What fox? Are you accusing a Democrat of being unethical, or is this a Rethug you're referring to? pnwmom Apr 2016 #29

Rose colored glasses. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #31

That's why you're seeing red. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #32

Funny.... Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #77

Take the worst case, paranoid nightmare.. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #18

and probably some of the potential voters just left and lakeguy Apr 2016 #38

Yup, 2000 will be a choir compared to what is coming nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #7

the people responsible for these purges are scum blackspade Apr 2016 #12

Here is Francesca whole public post xloadiex Apr 2016 #13

Thank you, xloadiex. Just as I suspected. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #40

Poll Worker Mesee Apr 2016 #49

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #15

Eh? nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #20

I'm sorry, SusanCalvin, I must have been distracted. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #22

Enjoy it while you can, Hillary Supporter. frylock Apr 2016 #16

Huh? Are you calling me a Hillary supporter? nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #21

No. That was directed to supporters of Mrs Clinton who are laughing this off. frylock Apr 2016 #23

Enjoy what? Darb Apr 2016 #62

Enjoy the election fraud. frylock Apr 2016 #63

Why the fuck would we enjoy election fraud? Darb Apr 2016 #64

I'm basing that on the rather glib attitude that Hillary Supporter has taken toward it. frylock Apr 2016 #68

Who says a "certain candidate" isn't affected? Darb Apr 2016 #82

"uncovering an unjustified ethnic cleansing of voter rolls from Ohio to Florida to Texas" pat_k Apr 2016 #17

The last election your worked.... Historic NY Apr 2016 #19

Our elections can be summed up easily: "The one that cheats the most wins." Feeling the Bern Apr 2016 #25

Yawn. Lose the fedora, Greg. It looks stupid on you. stopbush Apr 2016 #26

Typical AlbertCat Apr 2016 #30

Kinda like that yellow Star Trek outfit??? raindaddy Apr 2016 #37

Same thing happened in our Iowa Caucuses CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #27

Amen and AMEN! ReRe Apr 2016 #33

But it is ok if Kathleen Harris Schultz cheats INdemo Apr 2016 #34

I was always under the impression CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #35

Hey, CoffeeCat. It's shocking to find out just how wrong we were. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #41

This is why we have to keep donating/fighting CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #43

Right you are! Enthusiast Apr 2016 #45

There has never been a Democratic INdemo Apr 2016 #47

This election has certainly been an eye-opener nxylas Apr 2016 #58

Lately I have been reminded a lot of the "both parties are the same" meme. I always rejected it. thereismore Apr 2016 #65

Do you know what your states electioneering laws are? Loki Apr 2016 #36

K&R jwirr Apr 2016 #53

Our system needs a massive overhaul - by Sept. 1 at latest Mopar151 Apr 2016 #46

^THIS^ SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #78

The big difference between Tuesday and November is that Tuesday was a PRIMARY day.... George II Apr 2016 #52

PukeBaggers and Turd Wayers... SoapBox Apr 2016 #55

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman Investigating Primary Voting Irregularities jane123 Apr 2016 #59

Bernie lost big, that's all there is to it. The_Casual_Observer Apr 2016 #61

Doubtful. OwlinAZ Apr 2016 #66

You call this civilized? The_Casual_Observer Apr 2016 #73