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LudwigPastorius

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130. Yes.

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 10:09 PM

4 hrs ago

I expect to see Trump go after him. Fortunately, Mr. Smith has a degree of prosecutorial immunity as conferred by established Supreme Court decisions.

As long as he didn't fabricate, or accept fabricated, evidence, he's in the clear.

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Biden pardons Fauci and Milley in an effort to guard against potential 'revenge' by Trump [View all] BumRushDaShow 19 hrs ago OP

Good... Mike Nelson 19 hrs ago #1

We're in it now. Joinfortmill 18 hrs ago #20

In all honesty DENVERPOPS 13 hrs ago #120

Unfortunately, he didn't pardon Leonard Peltier. 3Hotdogs 18 hrs ago #2

He commuted Peltier's life sentence. ananda 14 hrs ago #105

Yes. Posted on DU, about an hour after my post. 3Hotdogs 11 hrs ago #126

This message was self-deleted by its author C0RI0LANUS 18 hrs ago #3

Good! whathehell 18 hrs ago #4

I was hoping he would do these pardons. FloridaBlues 18 hrs ago #5

Post removed Post removed 18 hrs ago #6

Read the statement from President Biden. Katinfl 18 hrs ago #7

If there's no even hint that there was a crime committed, then what are they being pardoned for? Seeking Serenity 18 hrs ago #10

It's not "new" ground. Nixon was given a preemptive pardon for the "good of the country". Lochloosa 18 hrs ago #17

And Nixon lead to the 1973 OLC presidential immunity memo... CaptainTruth 15 hrs ago #95

Because the incoming regime has made it clear they will manufacture criminal charges against these people. tanyev 18 hrs ago #27

Pardoning people who are under threat of legal action even though they have done nothing wrong... thesquanderer 17 hrs ago #56

IN THIS ENVIRONMENT the answer is yes Raven123 17 hrs ago #62

Yes you do when you have a sociopath who has threatened revenge against those he views as "enemies". JohnSJ 16 hrs ago #71

Those are BS questions, and you should delete them. Try reading the article to get your answer. Lochloosa 18 hrs ago #9

I did. And i won't because the questions are still relevant, that statement notwithstanding Seeking Serenity 18 hrs ago #13

Read it how you want then. I'm done. Lochloosa 18 hrs ago #16

Thank-you. JohnSJ 16 hrs ago #72

Since the "modern" media has decided to allow the re-writing of government functioning BumRushDaShow 18 hrs ago #11

Ok. Wheee. Let's chuck all the toys out and enter that brave new world. Seeking Serenity 18 hrs ago #15

Not necessarily BumRushDaShow 18 hrs ago #30

Ok, let's do that. sop 17 hrs ago #57

"Us"? You're part of the Biden administration, then? muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #74

No. He's saving them. Walk in their shoes for a moment Joinfortmill 18 hrs ago #21

no, its necessary because of the sick fuck coming in to persecute them/rewrite history. Blues Heron 18 hrs ago #32

"So...." Usually means bullshit is to follow Hassin Bin Sober 17 hrs ago #33

but try RegexReader 13 hrs ago #117

Critical thinking skills will be necessary to comprehend this decision. FarPoint 17 hrs ago #55

I'm glad he did COL Mustard 18 hrs ago #8

From the article. Lochloosa 18 hrs ago #12

I hope Lieutenant Byrd is on the list. Otherwise he'll be up on murder charges in 30 days. Hassin Bin Sober 17 hrs ago #58

They are part of beyondtimes 18 hrs ago #14

They were included BumRushDaShow 18 hrs ago #25

But what about others who testified against him? Cassidy Hutchinson, Alexander Vindman... thesquanderer 14 hrs ago #106

There were A LOT of people who testified BumRushDaShow 13 hrs ago #118

We're in it now. Be Brave. Resist. Change the channel today. Joinfortmill 18 hrs ago #18

Sickening Topomi 18 hrs ago #19

I don't disagree, but the pardons will provide a basis for GOP propaganda that they did something wrong. surfered 18 hrs ago #22

And it provides a precedent for... WestMichRad 18 hrs ago #26

Sadly, yes. Strange times surfered 18 hrs ago #29

As if "precedent" matters one-flying-eff to Donnie Dipshit and the MAGAts maxrandb 17 hrs ago #46

They would do it anyway MadameButterfly 16 hrs ago #83

Sad when you have to pardon people who have done nothing wrong Ohioboy 18 hrs ago #28

The Magas have already said multiple times that these people have broken the law! Hope22 17 hrs ago #36

They are doing that anyway. These people are not mentally well. travelingthrulife 16 hrs ago #82

And? Republicans lie about everything. They constantly take stuff out of context and engage in emulatorloo 16 hrs ago #86

Thank you President Biden! DownriverDem 18 hrs ago #23

Fuck this shit. I'm done. Seeking Serenity 18 hrs ago #24

Promise? (nt) Paladin 17 hrs ago #43

Congrats! You've just earned a spot on my "ignore" list FakeNoose 11 hrs ago #127

SCOTUS immunity was essentially a pardon of Trump. What's sauce for the goose .... /nt bucolic_frolic 18 hrs ago #31

What's good is bad, what's bad is good. We are in the upside down now. tetedur 17 hrs ago #34

We do lose some of the high ground on this HereForTheParty 17 hrs ago #35

Do we? Have they? Hope22 17 hrs ago #40

Post removed Post removed 17 hrs ago #49

Good luck out here.... Hope22 17 hrs ago #52

If so then so be it. Rainman4u2C 17 hrs ago #59

Only one word was true in your post. The rest were lies and distortions Bernardo de La Paz 16 hrs ago #65

? Rainman4u2C 16 hrs ago #68

Cases not comparable. As to memory Hur lied and distorted about that Bernardo de La Paz 16 hrs ago #70

Which is why that post was removed MadameButterfly 16 hrs ago #88

President Biden did not have a garage full of documents. Hope22 17 hrs ago #61

I was not aware that pence has a poor memory. niyad 17 hrs ago #63

Our obviously-fucked-up multi-tiered justice system? The opus dei/federalist niyad 16 hrs ago #67

Why should they have to endure that when there is zero evidence of wrongdoing? travelingthrulife 16 hrs ago #85

It is up to every DEM to use this as a conversation starter Bluetus 16 hrs ago #87

I don't know the extent of the pardons, but I fear not enough MadameButterfly 16 hrs ago #90

It was fairly broad, but I would have preferred something more expansive Bluetus 13 hrs ago #114

I agree. But grateful that people who testified are included MadameButterfly 12 hrs ago #124

We're mirroring what they did HereForTheParty 16 hrs ago #91

I categorically reject the Michelle Obama doctrine Bluetus 13 hrs ago #113

Sorry rawhideal 17 hrs ago #37

Shameful spin from the AP. Wiz Imp 17 hrs ago #38

Reminder to never pardon the press........ Hope22 17 hrs ago #41

Those aren't contradictory statements SCantiGOP 16 hrs ago #81

Um yes they are. Wiz Imp 15 hrs ago #93

When we're at the point where something like this is needed, then... JHB 17 hrs ago #39

Justice Can't Do It Because The Power Of The Pardon Is Absolute, But Congress DallasNE 15 hrs ago #98

Rules are only as effective as their enforecment. JHB 6 hrs ago #128

Thank you President Biden. riversedge 17 hrs ago #42

Profound thanks, Mr. President. (nt) Paladin 17 hrs ago #44

Dr Fauci rawhideal 17 hrs ago #45

I wonder if we could pay aqua buddha's neighbor. . . niyad 16 hrs ago #64

Kick dalton99a 17 hrs ago #47

I hope this news makes Trump stroke out Diamond_Dog 17 hrs ago #48

While GEN Milley will be protected from criminal charges, including recall to active duty for a Court Martial, he may 24601 17 hrs ago #50

The Republicans have been trying to break the government since Reagan. They've finally succeeded. jalan48 17 hrs ago #51

Since Nixon. That's when the idea of Faux propaganda network was born travelingthrulife 16 hrs ago #89

I'm Confused On What Crimes Have Been Committed DallasNE 17 hrs ago #53

What crime(s) was/were Nixon convicted for when Ford pardoned him? BumRushDaShow 17 hrs ago #54

Yes, But Nixon Crime Was Obvious DallasNE 15 hrs ago #94

It is pre-emptive to any sham charge the Trump regime comes up with. 33taw 16 hrs ago #73

The Point Is DallasNE 15 hrs ago #96

I understand. Biden did the right thing. 33taw 14 hrs ago #107

Really. Perhaps you are not aware of those judges appointed by trump who are ruling against Mifepristone, or JohnSJ 16 hrs ago #75

Good. I'm fine with it. This ain't politics as usual! The horse has already left the barn. tulipsandroses 17 hrs ago #60

good on joe, his last offical act. but i have woken up in a bad dream for the next 4 years .:( AllaN01Bear 16 hrs ago #66

Doubt this happened in a vacuum- Trump admin likely given a wink and heads up AkFemDem 16 hrs ago #69

And it's going to get ugly. fshrink 16 hrs ago #76

If you are NOT on Trump's hit list... Jit423 16 hrs ago #77

A big glorious 🖕 underpants 16 hrs ago #78

I do not fault Biden nor the people Biden pardoned Jarqui 16 hrs ago #79

We all seem to be assuming that Trump will honor the pardons ... SomewhereInTheMiddle 15 hrs ago #92

That makes me sick Jarqui 14 hrs ago #103

Not up to Trump to honor the pardons in the first place. LudwigPastorius 13 hrs ago #121

Should Have Pardoned Thousands of People... OhioTim 16 hrs ago #80

This. Susan Calvin 14 hrs ago #101

Love this move BeyondGeography 16 hrs ago #84

MaddowBlog-Biden issues pre-emptive pardons for potential Trump targets LetMyPeopleVote 15 hrs ago #97

My understanding is that drmeow 15 hrs ago #99

We can call these phantom pardons-- pardons for phantom crimes that never happened andym 14 hrs ago #100

Aside from what anyone thinks about these pardons, at least Bondi and Patel won't be able to create distractions. sop 14 hrs ago #102

GREAT! Figarosmom 14 hrs ago #104

I appreciate the gesture 4catsmom 14 hrs ago #108

I am so proud of Joe for doing this. totodeinhere 13 hrs ago #109

So, we have come to the point of issuing pre-emptive pardons for people who have committed no crimes. malthaussen 13 hrs ago #110

It's too bad that it has come to this. But Joe had no choice. totodeinhere 13 hrs ago #111

Does anyone really think that pardons will stop Trump from continuing... the nelm 13 hrs ago #112

nope RegexReader 13 hrs ago #116

Yeah, after Hunter though.... RegexReader 13 hrs ago #115

I notice that Joe didn't pardon Merrick Garland. LudwigPastorius 13 hrs ago #119

That ought to teach him not to drag his feet KS Toronado 12 hrs ago #123

Or Jack Smith n/t MichMan 6 hrs ago #129

Yes. LudwigPastorius 4 hrs ago #130

Absolutely horrifying that he has to do this. Dark n Stormy Knight 12 hrs ago #122

To this day it still amazes me how tsf KS Toronado 12 hrs ago #125