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alwaysinasnit

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17. So, does that mean we can actually deport those people who claim to be sovereign citizens? Their

Reply to hedda_foil (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 01:15 PM

10 hrs ago

argument is that they are not subject to the laws and jurisdiction of the US. And if you go up far enough up their family trees, I'm sure you could find at least one or more undocumented ancestors.

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Trump executive order will attempt to end birthright citizenship [View all] hedda_foil 12 hrs ago OP

WT actual F?!??! underpants 11 hrs ago #1

It's in the Constitution. He just can't wave a pen and cancel it. Fla Dem 11 hrs ago #2

He will, Miguelito Loveless 11 hrs ago #5

The SC would have to come up with an inane meaning to "subject to the jurisdiction of." Lonestarblue 11 hrs ago #9

I agree, Miguelito Loveless 11 hrs ago #12

Oh, and even if they rule against Trump Miguelito Loveless 11 hrs ago #13

Nah, just not accept a case for review after the 5th circuit hears the lawsuit about the Trump order and rules LiberalArkie 10 hrs ago #16

The "jurisdiction" clause was added to exclude... reACTIONary 9 hrs ago #20

All except ... VMA131Marine 7 hrs ago #28

It all rides on the interpretation of "subject to the jurisdiction thereof"... thesquanderer 11 hrs ago #10

I disagree because the part before that is "All person BORN or naturalized" jgmiller 11 hrs ago #14

Every clause counts, you can't leave out some qualifications. thesquanderer 9 hrs ago #19

Sorry that was my typo jgmiller 8 hrs ago #24

Even people in the U.S. undocumented VMA131Marine 6 hrs ago #29

This all comes from the same legal minds that backed the fake electors and challenged Kamala Harris' "natural born" Eugene 3 hrs ago #34

He'a an illegitimate president, he'll do whatever he wants and nobody stops him! Bluethroughu 6 hrs ago #30

This is insanity angrychair 11 hrs ago #3

The Constitution ceased to be relevant after Miguelito Loveless 11 hrs ago #7

Okay. Round up his fucking spawn and kick the fuckers out. Autumn 11 hrs ago #4

round up all of Elon's Spawn lapfog_1 7 hrs ago #26

He was reportedly making money off it for years Easterncedar 11 hrs ago #6

Throw out your own anchor baby first. jls4561 11 hrs ago #8

EO's can't overrule the Constitution or SCOTUS decisions ScratchCat 11 hrs ago #11

The only way he can even remotely attempt to do it is to argue that the 14th was improperly ratified Polybius 11 hrs ago #15

So, does that mean we can actually deport those people who claim to be sovereign citizens? Their alwaysinasnit 10 hrs ago #17

That's a huge question and Chump can't solve it with an executive order FakeNoose 6 hrs ago #31

The term "anchor babies" is a bit misleaing. If I could provide a bit of context, I would like to explain. alwaysinasnit 5 hrs ago #33

This will just be tied up in court till he's gone MacKasey 10 hrs ago #18

Since he fomented an insurrection, the Constitution is merely a piece of paper to him andym 8 hrs ago #21

14th Amendment Historic NY 8 hrs ago #22

Citizenship bromeando 8 hrs ago #23

They are online LeftInTX 7 hrs ago #27

It won't succeed. alarimer 7 hrs ago #25

if he can do that than a dem gov can issu an exec order moonshinegnomie 5 hrs ago #32

I read the EO they are going the "not in US jurisdiction" route jgmiller 1 hr ago #35