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DallasNE

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96. The Point Is

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 11:08 AM

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The lack of faith in the criminal justice system that indictments could even be made. Biden even spoke of the financial ruin this could cause. It shows the vast amount of work that can't even start until Trump is out of office in 4 years. Until then, we are a lawless society.

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Biden pardons Fauci and Milley in an effort to guard against potential 'revenge' by Trump [View all] BumRushDaShow 16 hrs ago OP

Good... Mike Nelson 16 hrs ago #1

We're in it now. Joinfortmill 15 hrs ago #20

In all honesty DENVERPOPS 10 hrs ago #120

Unfortunately, he didn't pardon Leonard Peltier. 3Hotdogs 16 hrs ago #2

He commuted Peltier's life sentence. ananda 11 hrs ago #105

Yes. Posted on DU, about an hour after my post. 3Hotdogs 9 hrs ago #126

This message was self-deleted by its author C0RI0LANUS 16 hrs ago #3

Good! whathehell 16 hrs ago #4

I was hoping he would do these pardons. FloridaBlues 16 hrs ago #5

Post removed Post removed 16 hrs ago #6

Read the statement from President Biden. Katinfl 15 hrs ago #7

If there's no even hint that there was a crime committed, then what are they being pardoned for? Seeking Serenity 15 hrs ago #10

It's not "new" ground. Nixon was given a preemptive pardon for the "good of the country". Lochloosa 15 hrs ago #17

And Nixon lead to the 1973 OLC presidential immunity memo... CaptainTruth 12 hrs ago #95

Because the incoming regime has made it clear they will manufacture criminal charges against these people. tanyev 15 hrs ago #27

Pardoning people who are under threat of legal action even though they have done nothing wrong... thesquanderer 14 hrs ago #56

IN THIS ENVIRONMENT the answer is yes Raven123 14 hrs ago #62

Yes you do when you have a sociopath who has threatened revenge against those he views as "enemies". JohnSJ 13 hrs ago #71

Those are BS questions, and you should delete them. Try reading the article to get your answer. Lochloosa 15 hrs ago #9

I did. And i won't because the questions are still relevant, that statement notwithstanding Seeking Serenity 15 hrs ago #13

Read it how you want then. I'm done. Lochloosa 15 hrs ago #16

Thank-you. JohnSJ 13 hrs ago #72

Since the "modern" media has decided to allow the re-writing of government functioning BumRushDaShow 15 hrs ago #11

Ok. Wheee. Let's chuck all the toys out and enter that brave new world. Seeking Serenity 15 hrs ago #15

Not necessarily BumRushDaShow 15 hrs ago #30

Ok, let's do that. sop 14 hrs ago #57

"Us"? You're part of the Biden administration, then? muriel_volestrangler 13 hrs ago #74

No. He's saving them. Walk in their shoes for a moment Joinfortmill 15 hrs ago #21

no, its necessary because of the sick fuck coming in to persecute them/rewrite history. Blues Heron 15 hrs ago #32

"So...." Usually means bullshit is to follow Hassin Bin Sober 15 hrs ago #33

but try RegexReader 10 hrs ago #117

Critical thinking skills will be necessary to comprehend this decision. FarPoint 14 hrs ago #55

I'm glad he did COL Mustard 15 hrs ago #8

From the article. Lochloosa 15 hrs ago #12

I hope Lieutenant Byrd is on the list. Otherwise he'll be up on murder charges in 30 days. Hassin Bin Sober 14 hrs ago #58

They are part of beyondtimes 15 hrs ago #14

They were included BumRushDaShow 15 hrs ago #25

But what about others who testified against him? Cassidy Hutchinson, Alexander Vindman... thesquanderer 11 hrs ago #106

There were A LOT of people who testified BumRushDaShow 10 hrs ago #118

We're in it now. Be Brave. Resist. Change the channel today. Joinfortmill 15 hrs ago #18

Sickening Topomi 15 hrs ago #19

I don't disagree, but the pardons will provide a basis for GOP propaganda that they did something wrong. surfered 15 hrs ago #22

And it provides a precedent for... WestMichRad 15 hrs ago #26

Sadly, yes. Strange times surfered 15 hrs ago #29

As if "precedent" matters one-flying-eff to Donnie Dipshit and the MAGAts maxrandb 14 hrs ago #46

They would do it anyway MadameButterfly 13 hrs ago #83

Sad when you have to pardon people who have done nothing wrong Ohioboy 15 hrs ago #28

The Magas have already said multiple times that these people have broken the law! Hope22 15 hrs ago #36

They are doing that anyway. These people are not mentally well. travelingthrulife 13 hrs ago #82

And? Republicans lie about everything. They constantly take stuff out of context and engage in emulatorloo 13 hrs ago #86

Thank you President Biden! DownriverDem 15 hrs ago #23

Fuck this shit. I'm done. Seeking Serenity 15 hrs ago #24

Promise? (nt) Paladin 14 hrs ago #43

Congrats! You've just earned a spot on my "ignore" list FakeNoose 8 hrs ago #127

SCOTUS immunity was essentially a pardon of Trump. What's sauce for the goose .... /nt bucolic_frolic 15 hrs ago #31

What's good is bad, what's bad is good. We are in the upside down now. tetedur 15 hrs ago #34

We do lose some of the high ground on this HereForTheParty 15 hrs ago #35

Do we? Have they? Hope22 15 hrs ago #40

Post removed Post removed 14 hrs ago #49

Good luck out here.... Hope22 14 hrs ago #52

If so then so be it. Rainman4u2C 14 hrs ago #59

Only one word was true in your post. The rest were lies and distortions Bernardo de La Paz 14 hrs ago #65

? Rainman4u2C 14 hrs ago #68

Cases not comparable. As to memory Hur lied and distorted about that Bernardo de La Paz 13 hrs ago #70

Which is why that post was removed MadameButterfly 13 hrs ago #88

President Biden did not have a garage full of documents. Hope22 14 hrs ago #61

I was not aware that pence has a poor memory. niyad 14 hrs ago #63

Our obviously-fucked-up multi-tiered justice system? The opus dei/federalist niyad 14 hrs ago #67

Why should they have to endure that when there is zero evidence of wrongdoing? travelingthrulife 13 hrs ago #85

It is up to every DEM to use this as a conversation starter Bluetus 13 hrs ago #87

I don't know the extent of the pardons, but I fear not enough MadameButterfly 13 hrs ago #90

It was fairly broad, but I would have preferred something more expansive Bluetus 10 hrs ago #114

I agree. But grateful that people who testified are included MadameButterfly 9 hrs ago #124

We're mirroring what they did HereForTheParty 13 hrs ago #91

I categorically reject the Michelle Obama doctrine Bluetus 10 hrs ago #113

Sorry rawhideal 15 hrs ago #37

Shameful spin from the AP. Wiz Imp 15 hrs ago #38

Reminder to never pardon the press........ Hope22 15 hrs ago #41

Those aren't contradictory statements SCantiGOP 13 hrs ago #81

Um yes they are. Wiz Imp 13 hrs ago #93

When we're at the point where something like this is needed, then... JHB 15 hrs ago #39

Justice Can't Do It Because The Power Of The Pardon Is Absolute, But Congress DallasNE 12 hrs ago #98

Rules are only as effective as their enforecment. JHB 4 hrs ago #128

Thank you President Biden. riversedge 14 hrs ago #42

Profound thanks, Mr. President. (nt) Paladin 14 hrs ago #44

Dr Fauci rawhideal 14 hrs ago #45

I wonder if we could pay aqua buddha's neighbor. . . niyad 14 hrs ago #64

Kick dalton99a 14 hrs ago #47

I hope this news makes Trump stroke out Diamond_Dog 14 hrs ago #48

While GEN Milley will be protected from criminal charges, including recall to active duty for a Court Martial, he may 24601 14 hrs ago #50

The Republicans have been trying to break the government since Reagan. They've finally succeeded. jalan48 14 hrs ago #51

Since Nixon. That's when the idea of Faux propaganda network was born travelingthrulife 13 hrs ago #89

I'm Confused On What Crimes Have Been Committed DallasNE 14 hrs ago #53

What crime(s) was/were Nixon convicted for when Ford pardoned him? BumRushDaShow 14 hrs ago #54

Yes, But Nixon Crime Was Obvious DallasNE 13 hrs ago #94

It is pre-emptive to any sham charge the Trump regime comes up with. 33taw 13 hrs ago #73

The Point Is DallasNE 12 hrs ago #96

I understand. Biden did the right thing. 33taw 11 hrs ago #107

Really. Perhaps you are not aware of those judges appointed by trump who are ruling against Mifepristone, or JohnSJ 13 hrs ago #75

Good. I'm fine with it. This ain't politics as usual! The horse has already left the barn. tulipsandroses 14 hrs ago #60

good on joe, his last offical act. but i have woken up in a bad dream for the next 4 years .:( AllaN01Bear 14 hrs ago #66

Doubt this happened in a vacuum- Trump admin likely given a wink and heads up AkFemDem 14 hrs ago #69

And it's going to get ugly. fshrink 13 hrs ago #76

If you are NOT on Trump's hit list... Jit423 13 hrs ago #77

A big glorious 🖕 underpants 13 hrs ago #78

I do not fault Biden nor the people Biden pardoned Jarqui 13 hrs ago #79

We all seem to be assuming that Trump will honor the pardons ... SomewhereInTheMiddle 13 hrs ago #92

That makes me sick Jarqui 11 hrs ago #103

Not up to Trump to honor the pardons in the first place. LudwigPastorius 10 hrs ago #121

Should Have Pardoned Thousands of People... OhioTim 13 hrs ago #80

This. Susan Calvin 11 hrs ago #101

Love this move BeyondGeography 13 hrs ago #84

MaddowBlog-Biden issues pre-emptive pardons for potential Trump targets LetMyPeopleVote 12 hrs ago #97

My understanding is that drmeow 12 hrs ago #99

We can call these phantom pardons-- pardons for phantom crimes that never happened andym 12 hrs ago #100

Aside from what anyone thinks about these pardons, at least Bondi and Patel won't be able to create distractions. sop 11 hrs ago #102

GREAT! Figarosmom 11 hrs ago #104

I appreciate the gesture 4catsmom 11 hrs ago #108

I am so proud of Joe for doing this. totodeinhere 11 hrs ago #109

So, we have come to the point of issuing pre-emptive pardons for people who have committed no crimes. malthaussen 11 hrs ago #110

It's too bad that it has come to this. But Joe had no choice. totodeinhere 10 hrs ago #111

Does anyone really think that pardons will stop Trump from continuing... the nelm 10 hrs ago #112

nope RegexReader 10 hrs ago #116

Yeah, after Hunter though.... RegexReader 10 hrs ago #115

I notice that Joe didn't pardon Merrick Garland. LudwigPastorius 10 hrs ago #119

That ought to teach him not to drag his feet KS Toronado 9 hrs ago #123

Or Jack Smith n/t MichMan 3 hrs ago #129

Yes. LudwigPastorius 1 hr ago #130

Absolutely horrifying that he has to do this. Dark n Stormy Knight 9 hrs ago #122

To this day it still amazes me how tsf KS Toronado 9 hrs ago #125