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53. I'm Confused On What Crimes Have Been Committed

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 09:13 AM

Jan 20

In Milley's case it would need to be in a military court, I would think. In Fauci/Cheney cases a Grand Jury would have to be convened and charges stem from that process. With Cheney it is an exclusive function of Congress so there seems to be jurisdiction issue involved. I don't even see how judge shopping gets an indictment so what am I missing?

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Biden pardons Fauci and Milley in an effort to guard against potential 'revenge' by Trump [View all] BumRushDaShow Jan 20 OP

Good... Mike Nelson Jan 20 #1

We're in it now. Joinfortmill Jan 20 #20

In all honesty DENVERPOPS Jan 20 #120

Unfortunately, he didn't pardon Leonard Peltier. 3Hotdogs Jan 20 #2

He commuted Peltier's life sentence. ananda Jan 20 #105

Yes. Posted on DU, about an hour after my post. 3Hotdogs Jan 20 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author C0RI0LANUS Jan 20 #3

Good! whathehell Jan 20 #4

I was hoping he would do these pardons. FloridaBlues Jan 20 #5

Post removed Post removed Jan 20 #6

Read the statement from President Biden. Katinfl Jan 20 #7

If there's no even hint that there was a crime committed, then what are they being pardoned for? Seeking Serenity Jan 20 #10

It's not "new" ground. Nixon was given a preemptive pardon for the "good of the country". Lochloosa Jan 20 #17

And Nixon lead to the 1973 OLC presidential immunity memo... CaptainTruth Jan 20 #95

Because the incoming regime has made it clear they will manufacture criminal charges against these people. tanyev Jan 20 #27

Pardoning people who are under threat of legal action even though they have done nothing wrong... thesquanderer Jan 20 #56

IN THIS ENVIRONMENT the answer is yes Raven123 Jan 20 #62

Yes you do when you have a sociopath who has threatened revenge against those he views as "enemies". JohnSJ Jan 20 #71

Those are BS questions, and you should delete them. Try reading the article to get your answer. Lochloosa Jan 20 #9

I did. And i won't because the questions are still relevant, that statement notwithstanding Seeking Serenity Jan 20 #13

Read it how you want then. I'm done. Lochloosa Jan 20 #16

Thank-you. JohnSJ Jan 20 #72

Since the "modern" media has decided to allow the re-writing of government functioning BumRushDaShow Jan 20 #11

Ok. Wheee. Let's chuck all the toys out and enter that brave new world. Seeking Serenity Jan 20 #15

Not necessarily BumRushDaShow Jan 20 #30

Ok, let's do that. sop Jan 20 #57

"Us"? You're part of the Biden administration, then? muriel_volestrangler Jan 20 #74

No. He's saving them. Walk in their shoes for a moment Joinfortmill Jan 20 #21

no, its necessary because of the sick fuck coming in to persecute them/rewrite history. Blues Heron Jan 20 #32

"So...." Usually means bullshit is to follow Hassin Bin Sober Jan 20 #33

but try RegexReader Jan 20 #117

Critical thinking skills will be necessary to comprehend this decision. FarPoint Jan 20 #55

I'm glad he did COL Mustard Jan 20 #8

From the article. Lochloosa Jan 20 #12

I hope Lieutenant Byrd is on the list. Otherwise he'll be up on murder charges in 30 days. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 20 #58

They are part of beyondtimes Jan 20 #14

They were included BumRushDaShow Jan 20 #25

But what about others who testified against him? Cassidy Hutchinson, Alexander Vindman... thesquanderer Jan 20 #106

There were A LOT of people who testified BumRushDaShow Jan 20 #118

We're in it now. Be Brave. Resist. Change the channel today. Joinfortmill Jan 20 #18

Sickening Topomi Jan 20 #19

I don't disagree, but the pardons will provide a basis for GOP propaganda that they did something wrong. surfered Jan 20 #22

And it provides a precedent for... WestMichRad Jan 20 #26

Sadly, yes. Strange times surfered Jan 20 #29

As if "precedent" matters one-flying-eff to Donnie Dipshit and the MAGAts maxrandb Jan 20 #46

They would do it anyway MadameButterfly Jan 20 #83

Sad when you have to pardon people who have done nothing wrong Ohioboy Jan 20 #28

The Magas have already said multiple times that these people have broken the law! Hope22 Jan 20 #36

They are doing that anyway. These people are not mentally well. travelingthrulife Jan 20 #82

And? Republicans lie about everything. They constantly take stuff out of context and engage in emulatorloo Jan 20 #86

Thank you President Biden! DownriverDem Jan 20 #23

Fuck this shit. I'm done. Seeking Serenity Jan 20 #24

Promise? (nt) Paladin Jan 20 #43

Congrats! You've just earned a spot on my "ignore" list FakeNoose Jan 20 #127

SCOTUS immunity was essentially a pardon of Trump. What's sauce for the goose .... /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 20 #31

What's good is bad, what's bad is good. We are in the upside down now. tetedur Jan 20 #34

We do lose some of the high ground on this HereForTheParty Jan 20 #35

Do we? Have they? Hope22 Jan 20 #40

Post removed Post removed Jan 20 #49

Good luck out here.... Hope22 Jan 20 #52

If so then so be it. Rainman4u2C Jan 20 #59

Only one word was true in your post. The rest were lies and distortions Bernardo de La Paz Jan 20 #65

? Rainman4u2C Jan 20 #68

Cases not comparable. As to memory Hur lied and distorted about that Bernardo de La Paz Jan 20 #70

Which is why that post was removed MadameButterfly Jan 20 #88

President Biden did not have a garage full of documents. Hope22 Jan 20 #61

I was not aware that pence has a poor memory. niyad Jan 20 #63

Our obviously-fucked-up multi-tiered justice system? The opus dei/federalist niyad Jan 20 #67

Why should they have to endure that when there is zero evidence of wrongdoing? travelingthrulife Jan 20 #85

It is up to every DEM to use this as a conversation starter Bluetus Jan 20 #87

I don't know the extent of the pardons, but I fear not enough MadameButterfly Jan 20 #90

It was fairly broad, but I would have preferred something more expansive Bluetus Jan 20 #114

I agree. But grateful that people who testified are included MadameButterfly Jan 20 #124

We're mirroring what they did HereForTheParty Jan 20 #91

I categorically reject the Michelle Obama doctrine Bluetus Jan 20 #113

Sorry rawhideal Jan 20 #37

Shameful spin from the AP. Wiz Imp Jan 20 #38

Reminder to never pardon the press........ Hope22 Jan 20 #41

Those aren't contradictory statements SCantiGOP Jan 20 #81

Um yes they are. Wiz Imp Jan 20 #93

When we're at the point where something like this is needed, then... JHB Jan 20 #39

Justice Can't Do It Because The Power Of The Pardon Is Absolute, But Congress DallasNE Jan 20 #98

Rules are only as effective as their enforecment. JHB Jan 20 #128

Thank you President Biden. riversedge Jan 20 #42

Profound thanks, Mr. President. (nt) Paladin Jan 20 #44

Dr Fauci rawhideal Jan 20 #45

I wonder if we could pay aqua buddha's neighbor. . . niyad Jan 20 #64

Kick dalton99a Jan 20 #47

I hope this news makes Trump stroke out Diamond_Dog Jan 20 #48

While GEN Milley will be protected from criminal charges, including recall to active duty for a Court Martial, he may 24601 Jan 20 #50

The Republicans have been trying to break the government since Reagan. They've finally succeeded. jalan48 Jan 20 #51

Since Nixon. That's when the idea of Faux propaganda network was born travelingthrulife Jan 20 #89

I'm Confused On What Crimes Have Been Committed DallasNE Jan 20 #53

What crime(s) was/were Nixon convicted for when Ford pardoned him? BumRushDaShow Jan 20 #54

Yes, But Nixon Crime Was Obvious DallasNE Jan 20 #94

It is pre-emptive to any sham charge the Trump regime comes up with. 33taw Jan 20 #73

The Point Is DallasNE Jan 20 #96

I understand. Biden did the right thing. 33taw Jan 20 #107

Really. Perhaps you are not aware of those judges appointed by trump who are ruling against Mifepristone, or JohnSJ Jan 20 #75

Good. I'm fine with it. This ain't politics as usual! The horse has already left the barn. tulipsandroses Jan 20 #60

good on joe, his last offical act. but i have woken up in a bad dream for the next 4 years .:( AllaN01Bear Jan 20 #66

Doubt this happened in a vacuum- Trump admin likely given a wink and heads up AkFemDem Jan 20 #69

And it's going to get ugly. fshrink Jan 20 #76

If you are NOT on Trump's hit list... Jit423 Jan 20 #77

A big glorious 🖕 underpants Jan 20 #78

I do not fault Biden nor the people Biden pardoned Jarqui Jan 20 #79

We all seem to be assuming that Trump will honor the pardons ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Jan 20 #92

That makes me sick Jarqui Jan 20 #103

Not up to Trump to honor the pardons in the first place. LudwigPastorius Jan 20 #121

Should Have Pardoned Thousands of People... OhioTim Jan 20 #80

This. Susan Calvin Jan 20 #101

Love this move BeyondGeography Jan 20 #84

MaddowBlog-Biden issues pre-emptive pardons for potential Trump targets LetMyPeopleVote Jan 20 #97

My understanding is that drmeow Jan 20 #99

We can call these phantom pardons-- pardons for phantom crimes that never happened andym Jan 20 #100

Aside from what anyone thinks about these pardons, at least Bondi and Patel won't be able to create distractions. sop Jan 20 #102

GREAT! Figarosmom Jan 20 #104

I appreciate the gesture 4catsmom Jan 20 #108

I am so proud of Joe for doing this. totodeinhere Jan 20 #109

So, we have come to the point of issuing pre-emptive pardons for people who have committed no crimes. malthaussen Jan 20 #110

It's too bad that it has come to this. But Joe had no choice. totodeinhere Jan 20 #111

Does anyone really think that pardons will stop Trump from continuing... the nelm Jan 20 #112

nope RegexReader Jan 20 #116

Yeah, after Hunter though.... RegexReader Jan 20 #115

I notice that Joe didn't pardon Merrick Garland. LudwigPastorius Jan 20 #119

That ought to teach him not to drag his feet KS Toronado Jan 20 #123

Or Jack Smith n/t MichMan Jan 20 #129

Yes. LudwigPastorius Jan 20 #130

Absolutely horrifying that he has to do this. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 20 #122

To this day it still amazes me how tsf KS Toronado Jan 20 #125