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Farmer-Rick

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23. That's terrible

Fri Oct 18, 2024, 05:44 PM

Oct 18

From the link: "Rhorer (the sister) said she noticed Hoover’s (the patient) eyes open up and seemingly track his loved one’s movements, according to WKYT. “We were told it was just reflexes – just a normal thing,” she said to the outlet.

“Who are we to question the medical system?”"

If my loved one was tracking people with their eyes, it would be a cold day in hell before I let anyone declare him dead. I don't care how many degrees you have. That person is aware and alive.

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Kentucky man declared brain dead wakes up during organ harvesting [View all] erronis Oct 18 OP

Mitch? GreenWave Oct 18 #1

Brain death is not something you can just declare. It has to be very rigorous tornado34jh Oct 18 #2

How can they tell when Trumpers are involved? Hassin Bin Sober Oct 18 #6

Well, that's why politicians should not be doctors tornado34jh Oct 18 #13

The gold standard for brain death in Trump supporters AdamGG Oct 19 #62

Then they clearly didn't follow the rules, because he had a drug overdose. LisaL Oct 18 #17

Drug intoxication/overdose is one of the excluding criteria tornado34jh Oct 18 #38

If drug intoxication is the excluding criteria, this guy should have been excluded from the start, because LisaL Oct 19 #66

The other thing is, usually you have to get neurological examination by at least two independent physicians tornado34jh Oct 19 #68

Nearly avoided having his organs harvested. LisaL Oct 19 #70

Who knows? But clearly something went wrong tornado34jh Oct 19 #71

LOL. I was thinking Matt Bevin, our former governor Redleg Oct 19 #78

Watch the movie "Coma" PJMcK Oct 18 #3

And another take on organ harvesting----- ! Jack Valentino Oct 18 #9

Good choice! PJMcK Oct 18 #16

Memories from 50 years ago - still randomly firing. erronis Oct 18 #20

The Galaxy Song is markodochartaigh Oct 18 #30

Wow Coexist Oct 18 #4

Holy Fucking Shit LudwigPastorius Oct 18 #5

Hope the US doesn't go like China. C0RI0LANUS Oct 18 #7

I've been reading about this sort of thing and it's PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 18 #8

Is the man dead? Akakoji Oct 18 #10

No, he is very much alive, three years later. LisaL Oct 18 #15

Article doesn't really say whether he was conscious or still brain dead. maxsolomon Oct 18 #11

That was three years ago. He is still alive, and there are recent photos of him, where he is very much alive. LisaL Oct 18 #14

Alive, still brain dead? Alive, awake and conscious? maxsolomon Oct 18 #19

Alive, awake and conscious. LisaL Oct 18 #21

Wow. maxsolomon Oct 18 #31

Thank goodness electric_blue68 Oct 18 #40

3 Years Old Okie Oct 19 #74

just realized that myself. maxsolomon Oct 19 #76

"Died of an overdose" and "organ donor" don't seem to go together ??? CincyDem Oct 18 #12

He wasn't dead. He is still alive 3 years later. LisaL Oct 18 #22

This reminds me of the Monty Python sketch Quanto Magnus Oct 18 #18

Me too mdbl Oct 18 #39

That's terrible Farmer-Rick Oct 18 #23

I am not sure what the deal is here. This guy was showing many signs of not being dead. LisaL Oct 18 #26

Exactly right Farmer-Rick Oct 19 #67

Eyes can be open and tracking Elessar Zappa Oct 19 #58

There is something called locked-in syndrome tornado34jh Oct 19 #60

I realize that locked in syndrome exists. Elessar Zappa Oct 19 #61

True, but again, a lot of mimics, which is why it has to be so rigorous to be sure that person is brain dead tornado34jh Oct 19 #63

Better late than never! Iggo Oct 18 #24

That's why I won't do it. Joinfortmill Oct 18 #25

Creepy! C Moon Oct 18 #27

This happens one out of how many million times? Blue Owl Oct 18 #28

How would we know? LisaL Oct 18 #29

Kick dalton99a Oct 18 #32

I took my name off the donor list years ago perdita9 Oct 18 #33

I recently read "The Undead" PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 18 #34

Not "yet" dead ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 18 #35

When I saw Spamalot I bought the souvenier shirt that says "I'm Not Dead Yet" dflprincess Oct 18 #46

Young, strong pal of my brother-in-law in bad accident, had head injury. In hospital for several days in coma Attilatheblond Oct 18 #36

What an incredible and moving story. I hope your BIL and you and friends have healed. erronis Oct 18 #48

Mostly, it was the former fiancee that just flat out refused to give up and knew he was still 'in there' Attilatheblond Oct 18 #53

Makes me think of the Law & Order Season 8 episode "Harvest" Wiz Imp Oct 18 #37

I swear there is a "Law and Order" for every situation dflprincess Oct 18 #47

Well, Law & Order is up to 504 episodes plus SVU is at 554 episodes Wiz Imp Oct 18 #50

I can imagine the M&M session that's going to cover this one. Warpy Oct 18 #41

How much money does that hospital get from these harvests? Klarkashton Oct 18 #42

Soon: johnnyfins Oct 18 #43

What exactly are you guys up to? BadGimp Oct 18 #44

"Can I have his brain for my experiment since it isn't dead?" :Dr. Frankenstein Wonder Why Oct 18 #45

With all the PurgedVoter Oct 18 #49

What a very thoughtful and thought-provoking reply! I hope others see this and I will try to broadcast it. erronis Oct 18 #52

So much misinformation in your post. Ms. Toad Oct 19 #59

Thank you for your clarification PurgedVoter Oct 19 #64

If you're ever sitting around and thinking "I'm having a really bad day".... rubbersole Oct 18 #51

Hummm, this might explain the number of Trump voters mjvpi Oct 18 #54

So... Godot51 Oct 18 #55

I hate it when that happens. notroot Oct 18 #56

At least he woke up surrounded by his brain dead kin. nt Xipe Totec Oct 18 #57

Without his prior written consent? Was it 'by default' on his KY drivers license? ancianita Oct 19 #65

Just as the surgeon removes the patient's heart... Jacson6 Oct 19 #69

Being sure of death isn't always easy Maeve Oct 19 #72

Well. That's unethical as hell. BComplex Oct 19 #73

Libertarian ninjanurse Oct 19 #75

anyone read a certain book? PedroXimenez Oct 19 #77