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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]RainDog
(28,784 posts)122. This is priceless!!!!!!!
Here's what Barthwell had to say when she was being paid to promote prohibition:
But you wont find any commercial development of plant-based marijuana medicines being pursued in the United States. Andrea Barthwell, a deputy director in the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy and President Bushs point person on medical marijuana, says cannabis medicines arent compatible with modern science. They do not constitute a serious line of research, she says.
The people who are advancing marijuana as a medicine are perpetuating a cruel hoax that exploits our compassion for the sick, Barthwell says. They are using patients pain and suffering in an attempt to change Americas drug control policy. Marijuana is a crude plant product that most definitely is not a medicine.
(that's from your link)
THEN this (I cannot use the words I would like) showed up at a conference sponsored by Americans for Safe Access and claimed that Sativex is not cannabis...and she's a doctor?
After I pointed out to the few reporters that she was not JUST a private citizen, but the ex-Deputy Drug Czar, a representative of GW, and the failed Republican nominee for IL Senate, she told the press that rescheduling marijuana would not make it available to patients. I concurred. Then she asked me how I could say that Sativex was marijuana. I asked her if it was not marijuana, what was it? She rattled off her sound byte "If your grandmother was in pain would you give her opium?"
I am writing this list because I have major concern for the future of Sativex. Barthwell looked ridiculous. All the reporters kept asking her "They are here in support of Sativex, what is your problem?" And she just kept giving her sound bytes about how Sativex was not marijuana. Luckily Matt Atwood, Executive Director of IDEALReform, also a chemist was present and challenged her on the "compound level" to which her only response was "What are you a scientists?"
Directly after the press conference, I received a "Cease and Desist" order from the Bayer attorneys over a domain name ASA purchased but had yet put up the content www.SativexInfo.org , www.SativexInfo.com, and www.SativexInfo.net which is a pro-Sativex website they also found out about from Don Wirtshafter's e-mail. We have kindly told them we will not be giving over the domains and we will end up in court in the next 20 days or so.
So, we see that, yes, indeed, scumbags like this woman are working with Bayer and GW to pull some slick shit and make Sativex legal while keeping the cannabis plant illegal.
I suppose that's why the Drug Czar amended his pronouncement that there is no medical value to cannabis to "smoked" cannabis. He may soon have to start saying... smoked, buttered, baked, vaped, tinctured or any other way if not done by the big pharma we favor.
The "single issue" here is corrupt govt practices.
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It is decriminalized for those without a medical card (depending on amount).
unapatriciated
Jan 2012
#76
I'll say again, if you want Obama to do liberal things, give him a liberal congress.
Kurmudgeon
Jan 2012
#49
lol... I've hear that speaking 'sense' can get you banned on DU3 so shhhhhh
Joe Shlabotnik
Jan 2012
#16
I think that is is the political ridicule potential of legalisation that scares the politicans
Mopar151
Jan 2012
#110
I'm starting to think these "MMJ activists" are smoking crack along with their cannabis.
tridim
Jan 2012
#27
What it comes down to, ultimately, is mmj patients don't give a shit if Obama supports mmj
RainDog
Jan 2012
#119
MMJ will never get favorable legislation until corporate money is out of campaign finance.
Xtraneous
Jan 2012
#37
There doesn't need to be a great public outcry for the federal government to enforce its laws.
randome
Jan 2012
#109
And I seriously doubt Ron Pauls claims. He knows the congress will not pass anything like that if it
jwirr
Jan 2012
#40
It's hard to take medical cannabis seriously when Democrats are making ill-informed
tpsbmam
Jan 2012
#41
First, I don't appreciate you labeling me a liar when it is far from the truth. It is you who is
tpsbmam
Jan 2012
#80
I didn't label you a liar. I labelled the people lying about Obama's official position liars.
tridim
Jan 2012
#87
So what are they lying about? What about all that I posted -- it's drastically different
tpsbmam
Jan 2012
#96
Medical Marijuana Patients Concerned About Attempt To Legalize In Washington State
DeathToTheOil
Jan 2012
#44