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JHan

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28. but but but third way politics is bad...

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Wed May 10, 2017, 09:23 AM

May 2017

and the reason we always lose, and the reason clinton and obama were so awful... (Am I doing it right?)

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Heath Mello loses his bid for Mayor of Omaha. [View all] nikibatts May 2017 OP

That's too bad. Cha May 2017 #1

Hopefully we have better luck in GA Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #2

Right, for Jon Ossoff! Cha May 2017 #4

Me too WellDarn May 2017 #35

Too bad, it would have been a shot in the arm. Demsrule86 May 2017 #3

So what message is that? WellDarn May 2017 #5

"Is it that a different, but maybe even larger, segment of Cha May 2017 #6

Word. NurseJackie May 2017 #7

I was just going to say the same to you.. Cha May 2017 #8

We heard the "needed" message, but thanks for repeating it WellDarn May 2017 #9

Why are you bringing Senator Kaine into this? Cha May 2017 #11

Because Senator Kaine WellDarn May 2017 #25

+1 QC May 2017 #26

As you've been told.. Senator Kaine didn't vote against Cha May 2017 #29

Exactly. JTFrog May 2017 #36

We've had this EXACT same conversation before, haven't we? Only perhaps... NurseJackie May 2017 #46

Yeah, in April.. the same bullshit about Senator Cha May 2017 #48

Lots of those posts got removed because they falsely slammed Democrats... (nt) ehrnst May 2017 #64

Heck, I got removed for praising someone trying to help Alice11111 May 2017 #154

exactly. m-lekktor May 2017 #30

What part of "voting record" is unclear? ehrnst May 2017 #56

Since you were so kind as to offer help WellDarn May 2017 #114

Votes count more than personal beliefs. ehrnst May 2017 #115

I debated whether to respond with a counter-challenge or an explanation WellDarn May 2017 #117

But their votes are what counted, right? ehrnst May 2017 #120

I know this will be difficult for some, but the most likely reason Mello lost is because still_one May 2017 #107

Cannot disagree at all WellDarn May 2017 #113

What do you think that motivation was? (Nt) ehrnst May 2017 #116

Omaha went for Sen Obama in 2008 & Pres Obama in 2012 Cha May 2017 #141

You got any hard data from Omaha to back up your claims? emulatorloo May 2017 #128

My claim is WellDarn May 2017 #129

Ah I thought you were claiming Dems sat home in Omaha emulatorloo May 2017 #130

That's my fault WellDarn May 2017 #131

Totally understand emulatorloo May 2017 #132

Tim Kaine never voted against women...Mello did repeatedly Demsrule86 May 2017 #12

Yas! (nt) ehrnst May 2017 #19

Excellent post, Demsrule! Cha May 2017 #24

Thanks...I get tired of the false equivalency. Demsrule86 May 2017 #73

And the passive aggressive "can someone explain to me..." posts ehrnst May 2017 #83

Right...if Sen. Sanders had not endorsed Mello, they would not care about a mayor's race in Demsrule86 May 2017 #85

But now, because of the endorsment, there seems to be this line in the sand ehrnst May 2017 #90

I wonder too...and Mello supported the pipeline and when I pointed it out... Demsrule86 May 2017 #103

+1,000,000 Tarheel_Dem May 2017 #155

What are OUR LIVES worth to you? JTFrog May 2017 #32

Research? WellDarn May 2017 #38

In other words, not that important. JTFrog May 2017 #40

Just a quick research on Mello's past legislature against Women's Rights Cha May 2017 #45

Because all 10,000 are Democrats WellDarn May 2017 #122

Does that include black women? MountCleaners May 2017 #160

Yeah, you obviously haven't done your research.. Cha May 2017 #44

See #118 n/t WellDarn May 2017 #121

Don't try to get out of not having done your Cha May 2017 #133

See #118 n/t WellDarn May 2017 #135

BS endorsed the "Aggressively anti-choice" Mello.. Cha May 2017 #137

I'll go part way on this WellDarn May 2017 #139

Try researching some more. He INTRODUCED a bill in the Nebraska legislature... George II May 2017 #58

Why yes, did you miss the 20+ years of urban genocide that followed? n/t WellDarn May 2017 #119

I see that one is just spouting nonsense.. Cha May 2017 #136

Here is Mello's voting record: ehrnst May 2017 #66

Results with Mello casting a vote for the other side WellDarn May 2017 #118

So you agree that it was more than "one vote" Good - that's cleared up. ehrnst May 2017 #125

You know what's binary? ehrnst May 2017 #92

Do YOUR research of Mello's legislative history as state Senator musette_sf May 2017 #106

But all of the sudden, if a protest vote would not have made a difference ehrnst May 2017 #127

Well if you do research you learn what this man is and the laws he tried to make. Ninsianna May 2017 #144

So you established Mello was "aggressively anti-choice." WellDarn May 2017 #145

"Purity" on the issue of women's health care is a basic for the Democratic party ehrnst May 2017 #146

We do not disagree WellDarn May 2017 #149

When did anyone say that they were "happy, satisfied or empowered" by a Democratic loss? ehrnst May 2017 #150

No no no WellDarn May 2017 #156

Where in the OP did anyone say that they were "happy, satisfied or empowered" by a Democratic loss? ehrnst May 2017 #158

I think we're just going to have to disagree WellDarn May 2017 #159

"Disagree" on what is in the OP, that we can read right now? ehrnst May 2017 #161

So it doesn't post a link WellDarn May 2017 #162

That would be a question you should direct to the author of the OP, Not me. ehrnst May 2017 #163

Thank you for the advice WellDarn May 2017 #164

Whatever. ehrnst May 2017 #178

Thank you! Cha May 2017 #42

Kaine is better than Bob Casey, but both voted against... moriah May 2017 #67

I thought that it was interesting that a candidate in a mayoral race was chosen for ehrnst May 2017 #72

Yeah, it's odd that someone more invested in human rights wouldn't be chosen. It was obvious Mello bettyellen May 2017 #80

Does seem like that doesn't it? (nt) ehrnst May 2017 #82

Almost a rebuke to the women's march, to be honest. No one wants to admit it's bettyellen May 2017 #86

Yes, I think that there is some muscle flexing going on ehrnst May 2017 #96

I'm past examining the misogyny and at the point where I am demanding men support us vocally. No bettyellen May 2017 #99

Old white men and their trickle-down social justice policies ehrnst May 2017 #102

Yeah, that they don't see a problem with their me-first method while bettyellen May 2017 #105

Jane Kleeb is the chair of the Democratic Party in Nebraska... Demsrule86 May 2017 #87

This Jane Kleeb? ehrnst May 2017 #95

Yep that is her...she gushed about how great it was to have a 'pro-life' candidate Demsrule86 May 2017 #101

People who oppose legal abortion can vote any way they want. ehrnst May 2017 #104

I agree. Demsrule86 May 2017 #108

What does Tim Kaine of Virginia have to do with Heath Mello's defeat? George II May 2017 #68

Oh, you know, standard accusations of hypocrisy. moriah May 2017 #69

Nothing, but he was HRC's running mate. ehrnst May 2017 #71

And he went down to Georgia to visit Carter in the middle of the run off and didn't even Demsrule86 May 2017 #15

+1000 (nt) ehrnst May 2017 #18

Teach! Teach! brush May 2017 #79

Agreed Gothmog May 2017 #84

Thanks, no telling how many more times you'll be posting this. R B Garr May 2017 #175

They are most certainly are ignoring the Cha May 2017 #177

"Unity not Purity" is not the message that was sent by those who endorsed Mello. ehrnst May 2017 #20

And yet WellDarn May 2017 #27

Bullshit. JTFrog May 2017 #37

No, it was not. ehrnst May 2017 #49

It is always about Sanders... I don't think it is true....but who cares anyway? Demsrule86 May 2017 #88

Truth WellDarn May 2017 #123

When did Omaha Nebraska become a "major US city"? I'll avoid commenting about the rest... George II May 2017 #55

Never...in my opinion. Demsrule86 May 2017 #89

It's the 43rd largest city in the US WellDarn May 2017 #126

I'm really sorry Mello wasn't elected, but Republicans Hortensis May 2017 #109

Thank you for this WellDarn May 2017 #112

And I this post. I certainly understand your anger and frustration, Hortensis May 2017 #140

That's a hard truth to swallow WellDarn May 2017 #142

I have no doubt that Mello would be better than the GOP but do we really want to surrender to the Demsrule86 May 2017 #10

We are told to do this EVERY SINGLE ELECTION. alarimer May 2017 #13

That's not how I see it. yardwork May 2017 #17

Agree. (nt) ehrnst May 2017 #21

I agree with you. JTFrog May 2017 #31

Well that was the tone of the OP, along with others on the thread. alarimer May 2017 #47

And you continue the straw man arguments. yardwork May 2017 #53

Constantly? All the time? ehrnst May 2017 #63

Like every single fucking election alarimer May 2017 #65

Can you be more specific about this? ehrnst May 2017 #70

It has nothing to do with Sen. Sanders...and why so focused on one guy? Demsrule86 May 2017 #34

perfectly said, thank you. trc May 2017 #41

The problem is with who has appointed himself the power to define "true blue progressive" ehrnst May 2017 #52

And the definition keeps changing almost from day to day based on what? Demsrule86 May 2017 #74

I wish he would have won.. It wasn't that BS Cha May 2017 #39

I wish he would have won too... Demsrule86 May 2017 #166

Yep.. turns out it got the repubs Cha May 2017 #168

Yep...we may yet win...not unusual when an area is trending say blue for presidential races Demsrule86 May 2017 #171

Senator Heitkamp is from North Dakota. Cha May 2017 #172

Thanks for that...I am lazy...could have looked it up but I still think Nebraska may yet trend blue Demsrule86 May 2017 #173

That is not the case. Then negatives against him were his counter-progressive positions. George II May 2017 #91

This has nothing to do with Sanders...I could not care a less who Sanders endorses...unless I view a Demsrule86 May 2017 #165

Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy. yardwork May 2017 #14

I have been scratching my head about the mixed messages for months. boston bean May 2017 #16

Yep...it basically boils down to because I said so...no rationality. Demsrule86 May 2017 #167

I know right. Something's Cha May 2017 #23

It's all about somebody's ego. yardwork May 2017 #59

Wow.. I did Not know that about Heath Cha May 2017 #22

but but but third way politics is bad... JHan May 2017 #28

Must add copious amounts of "Establishment Establishment Cha May 2017 #33

Nearly. ehrnst May 2017 #51

Oh yeah.. I forgot those, too. That's another Cha May 2017 #54

"Authoritarian" is another big one BumRushDaShow May 2017 #57

Oh yeah, "authoritarian" by those acting Cha May 2017 #138

true, that's the new one. JHan May 2017 #61

You have to work in neoliberal and corporatist. SaschaHM May 2017 #60

lol JHan May 2017 #62

Don't forget oligarchy. Preferably with lots of !!!!! yardwork May 2017 #78

Oh right - Big money supported gonna turn us over to the war machine and wall street ehrnst May 2017 #98

Right? Demsrule86 May 2017 #76

If the future of the Democratic Party involves not advocating for basic health care for women ehrnst May 2017 #50

Exactly. People like Mello can not be the face or the future of the Democratic Party. Demsrule86 May 2017 #75

Given a choice between a Republican and a Democrat who sounds like a Republican Warpy May 2017 #152

This is interesting Gothmog May 2017 #43

But he will run again.... riversedge May 2017 #77

What lesson? he will run in Nebraska...I live in Ohio... Demsrule86 May 2017 #93

I am sorry to say! imanamerican63 May 2017 #81

Sorry you are stuck with the GOP ass...better luck next time. Demsrule86 May 2017 #94

Every onnce in awhile we get a gift, but not too often! imanamerican63 May 2017 #97

I used to live in Georgia...Ohio is not much better but I live in a gerrymandered area where Demsrule86 May 2017 #100

That's interesting.. thanks, imanamerican Cha May 2017 #143

It is about Bernie's endorsement Jake Stern May 2017 #110

I didn't support John Bel Edwards and was not told to. ehrnst May 2017 #111

It wasn't that BS endorsed Mello.. Cha May 2017 #134

Take that Sanders! romanic May 2017 #124

Bernie Sanders campaigning for Heath Mello was 'a colossal mistake,' UNO professor says ehrnst May 2017 #147

I read that.. and yet Obama won Omaha twice. Cha May 2017 #148

Paul Landow TOTALLY NAILED IT! Right on target! The things we do for vanity's sake and our own egos NurseJackie May 2017 #157

+1000 Demsrule86 May 2017 #170

Valient Effort! Thank you for trying. Often, these things Alice11111 May 2017 #151

You have to run in a way that suits your city...Mello is in a conservative area Demsrule86 May 2017 #169

I thought the same about Bernie's endorsement, but Alice11111 May 2017 #174

Maybe next time. Demsrule86 May 2017 #176

Here is the Omaha World Hearld's assessment still_one May 2017 #153