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MadHound

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19. I'm not just speaking to one poster's thread,

Wed Feb 1, 2012, 12:34 AM

Feb 2012

But to the endless damning of and handwringing over Occupy Oakland burning a flag. If you haven't seen those threads, those posts, then you simply aren't looking.

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The flag as a fetish. [View all] MadHound Jan 2012 OP

Yes, let's burn more flags nobodyspecial Feb 2012 #1

Wow, I guess my point did a complete double backflip, right over your head MadHound Feb 2012 #2

And made a whooshing sounds when it did. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #6

you seem to show up unionworks Feb 2012 #41

Well, some people like to watch fires burn, MadHound Feb 2012 #48

Freedom to commit an act of free expression does not mean freedom from criticism or rebuttal bluestateguy Feb 2012 #3

Have you ever put some thought into why somebody burns a flag? n/t MadHound Feb 2012 #5

I guess bluestateguy Feb 2012 #7

Actually, they do if one is dedicated to having an intelligent conversation. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #11

The number of DUers decrying the burning of a piece of cloth while tacitly Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #9

No DUer is doing those things. You are inventing those positions all on your own stevenleser Feb 2012 #15

Really? Looking around here the past few years you could have fooled me MadHound Feb 2012 #18

No one on DU is talking about the evils of flagburning. That is YOUR strawman stevenleser Feb 2012 #23

Well despite your protestation, and loud protestation at that, MadHound Feb 2012 #25

could you provide a source mackattack Feb 2012 #27

Cool, then you can use it MadHound Feb 2012 #30

Well usually when you make an assertion mackattack Feb 2012 #36

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #42

Were at downthread? mackattack Feb 2012 #47

Let me guess, you want to be spoonfed at dinner time too. MadHound Feb 2012 #50

I require my students to cite their sources mackattack Feb 2012 #51

Well sorry, but I'm not one of your students MadHound Feb 2012 #52

hmmm mackattack Feb 2012 #60

Obama is a Kenyan and a secret muslim mackattack Feb 2012 #63

He knows he is wrong. He really loves the strawman he created but cannot back it up stevenleser Feb 2012 #35

Nope, you are still not getting it. Try reading what people are saying instead of imputing opinions stevenleser Feb 2012 #28

Oh I get it, MadHound Feb 2012 #33

You are calling out nothing and no one but the strawman you created. thats why you cannot link to stevenleser Feb 2012 #37

Actually a perfect example just turned up downthread, check it out MadHound Feb 2012 #39

LOL, that person is not saying what you are hoping they are saying either. nt stevenleser Feb 2012 #43

Wow, you do have a comprehension problem don't you. MadHound Feb 2012 #45

Some people might be damning them, others like myself just dont give a damn one way or the other. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #77

Yes. Soooo many posts about the "stupid" move of a couple of dozen out of a couple of thousand. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #70

Do you know what "tacitly" means? nt Bonobo Feb 2012 #20

If the concern is not over a piece of cloth, then all those professing concern would also Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #49

Or the flags thrown on the ground by cops nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #55

No, people can state an opinion on one issue without having to bring anything else into it. stevenleser Feb 2012 #57

Amazing, isn't it? I am stunned that those flag burners were not arrested, and that there was a sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #56

I've seen that opinion raised elsewhere. I really think Occupiers are too smart to do this. stevenleser Feb 2012 #62

Considering how the robo cops were grabbing people off the street and arresting them from sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #66

Personally, I am not univerally against storming government & private institutions. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #74

I feel sick reading your post. I know what you are saying, and I too am outraged over what sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #75

(heart) I suggest that you don't leave. You have an amazing command of language Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #76

You're making things up. emilyg Feb 2012 #58

Nope. Not one of those who walked into City Hall, vandalized, stole a flag, burned it outside Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #65

This needs to be mentioned in an OP. backscatter712 Feb 2012 #73

Yes. The flag! The flag. Meanwhile our fellow citizens are being brutalized. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #4

And you know what is even more ironic nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #8

"traveling a path where symbol means more than substance" whatchamacallit Feb 2012 #10

So, not an agent povocateur? joshcryer Feb 2012 #12

Are asking if I am one? n/t MadHound Feb 2012 #13

Nope. Tired of the people saying the flag burners are. joshcryer Feb 2012 #34

Cool, just wanted to get that cleared up MadHound Feb 2012 #44

Have the flag burners unionworks Feb 2012 #59

Yes, they have been arrested in other instances (trumped up charges). joshcryer Feb 2012 #67

It is a fetish. We used to call them the "flag people," sticking flags on RKP5637 Feb 2012 #14

You are missing the point. stevenleser Feb 2012 #16

I'm not just speaking to one poster's thread, MadHound Feb 2012 #19

I know you aren't, you are missing the point of the 'handwringers' stevenleser Feb 2012 #22

So there is a right way and a wrong way to deliver a message of protest? MadHound Feb 2012 #24

Yes, there are right ways and wrong ways to deliver messages of protest. stevenleser Feb 2012 #26

Don't be ignorant of our history MadHound Feb 2012 #29

What success? Westboro hasnt achieved any of their objectives! You want to Westboro-ize Occupy? stevenleser Feb 2012 #40

Of course they have, are you that foolish? MadHound Feb 2012 #46

Is there anything you actually do understand? I encourage you to talk about THOSE things. stevenleser Feb 2012 #53

I posted on the flag burning thread ... markpkessinger Feb 2012 #78

Well, what was the right way to deliver the message during the Civil Rights era? An awful sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #61

I'm a huge supporter of OWS. stevenleser Feb 2012 #64

Thank you and my apologies if I misunderstood you. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #71

Very good point... markpkessinger Feb 2012 #79

Breast milk cheese? Have you seen this? Gorgomorgo Feb 2012 #17

And this is relevant to this thread how, exactly? MadHound Feb 2012 #21

How does this fit in with the topic being discussed? RKP5637 Feb 2012 #54

A lot of people think your position makes sense, but it doesn't. gulliver Feb 2012 #31

Speaking of not making sense. . . MadHound Feb 2012 #38

k&r n/t Kamikaze1 Feb 2012 #32

Everyone has the right to burn the flag. I reserve the right to call flag-burners cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #68

The flag is a piece of cloth. Fawke Em Feb 2012 #69

this issue seperates the progressives from the closet conservative love it or leave it" crowd nt msongs Feb 2012 #72

You're right, it is just a piece of cloth - but that doesn't mean . . . markpkessinger Feb 2012 #81

thank you, thank you! inna Feb 2012 #80

Burning a person in effigy does not damage the person, Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #82