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Jack Valentino

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115. So would you rather have Newsom as the next President,

Mon Dec 8, 2025, 11:33 PM

Monday

or Vance, Trump Jr., or some other Republican (Nazi) ???

A Democrat in the White House
is much more likely to listen to what Democrats want---

Before we get that again, this kind of purity
is just a lot of bullshit--

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Gov Newsome triangulating again. [View all] Shipwack Dec 4 OP

WTF is "culturally normal?" leftstreet Dec 4 #1

I would say this is a great example of what he's talking about. Nixie Dec 5 #14

Code for "don't talk about trans or non-binary rights"? LudwigPastorius Dec 5 #15

rich White male "christian" LuvLoogie Dec 5 #82

None of the "centrists" would ever mock or attack Trump as much as Jack Valentino Monday #114

I think he's saying we need better messaging to get our values out..more on point Deuxcents Dec 4 #2

Can't say at this point whether that's right or wrong AS FAR AS winning some states we need in 2028. I hate Silent Type Dec 4 #3

He's swinging to the center way too soon Blasphemer Dec 4 #4

2026 comes first. maxsolomon Dec 5 #64

Ok. What is culturally normal? Raven123 Dec 4 #5

You know what it is. maxsolomon Dec 5 #65

The implication of Newsom's other sentences is "it's anti-immigration" muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #68

First, please spell his name right. usonian Dec 4 #6

What is "wildly" successful? awesomerwb1 Dec 5 #44

Bernie Sanders Packed an Arena in ... Utah usonian Dec 5 #46

That's great awesomerwb1 Dec 5 #48

You have to ask them. usonian Dec 5 #50

It would be interesting data to have awesomerwb1 Dec 5 #54

I caught some videos of the tour, and people said they were flipping. usonian Dec 5 #63

"Proof"? awesomerwb1 Dec 5 #66

Post removed Post removed Dec 4 #7

Exactly the point. We don't have to shove people's noses Bluetus Dec 4 #8

Most of those things aren't even popular among Democrats gulliver Dec 5 #11

. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 5 #28

It's part of health care. It doesn't have to be called out as a special issue. Fix healthcare for everyone, incl trans beaglelover Dec 5 #74

When Republicans object to trans health care, should Democrats defend it, or fold because it's a niche cultural issue? WhiskeyGrinder Dec 5 #79

They can just say trans health care is included in our health care plans. No need to dwell on it. beaglelover Dec 5 #80

A lot of those things are exaggerated by the right wing JI7 Dec 5 #13

I don't see data on those who don't vote, they're going after swing voters which are expensive iirc uponit7771 Dec 5 #16

I can't think of a single Democrat who doesn't use pronouns. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 5 #26

I'm a Democrat. I don't have my pronouns in my work signature. maxsolomon Dec 5 #69

Well stated. Sounds like Sunday morning at my church. LAS14 Dec 5 #53

When the right wants to strip trans people of rights, if not outright physically harm them TheProle Dec 5 #94

N E W S O M Skittles Dec 4 #9

*WE* have to be less judgmental??? Skittles Dec 4 #10

Being judgemental isn't the problem LuvLoogie Dec 5 #83

We have to do whatever we need to win JI7 Dec 5 #12

His surname is spelled Newsom Niagara Dec 5 #17

I applaud the OP for posting the Huff Post article in GD muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #18

There's sources posted here that are not reliable at all Niagara Dec 5 #20

I don't see that the bit you added before excuses what he said muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #21

Oh, only RW'ers are judgemental on issues? Niagara Dec 5 #24

In the grand scheme of things, yes, only Republican politicians are judgmental. muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #25

We are judgmental of Nazis and fascists, nothing wrong with that. They are judgmental of non whites- big problem Blues Heron Dec 5 #29

Presidents Obama and Clinton triangulated. President Biden did not. Jose Garcia Dec 5 #19

Biden stepped down after being hounded out by Clooney et al Blues Heron Dec 5 #32

And a litany of party leaders. BannonsLiver Dec 5 #38

Et al Blues Heron Dec 5 #39

He was on his way to a lanndslide loss Jose Garcia Dec 5 #41

He would have won -he's the only one to defeat Trump. Giving up incumbency was highly stupid. Blues Heron Dec 5 #42

After that idiot took a pot shot at MFer, the die was cast. maxsolomon Dec 5 #75

Dems need to find 80/20 issues they can hammer on GreatGazoo Dec 5 #22

All my lefty family members are tired of the pronoun thing mainer Dec 5 #23

Which Democratic candidates were demanding that? muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #27

I'm not referring to particular candidates mainer Dec 5 #43

So this is not about Democrats, ie what Newsom was talking about. muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #47

... BannonsLiver Dec 5 #35

Culturally normal another way to say the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?? NoMoreRepugs Dec 5 #30

Post removed Post removed Dec 5 #31

He's not wrong. BannonsLiver Dec 5 #33

So is he pushing a purity test for the party? Emile Dec 5 #34

The opposite, actually. BannonsLiver Dec 5 #36

LOL, I don't think so! Emile Dec 5 #37

If you say so. BannonsLiver Dec 5 #40

I know exactly what you're referring to. maxsolomon Dec 5 #70

It's verboten to discuss but you are of course correct. BannonsLiver Dec 5 #87

He's saying to drop the purity tests. Nixie Dec 5 #45

I guess it depends on which side of the political spectrum Emile Dec 5 #49

He's definitely not on the spectrum that alienates voters with Nixie Dec 5 #51

As I said, it depends on what side of the political spectrum your on. Emile Dec 5 #52

We've all seen enough of this insistence and labeling of Nixie Dec 5 #55

See my post #56. nt LAS14 Dec 5 #57

Purity tests, on which side of the spectrum are you talking about? Emile Dec 5 #58

Centrist is really the obvious purity test. A way of smearing our candidates Nixie Dec 5 #60

Then if centrist is a smear, why do some politicians call themselves centrist? Emile Dec 5 #61

The purity test smear is obviously that being normal, as in not being Nixie Dec 5 #71

Are you saying , if you are not a centrist, you are fringe? Emile Dec 5 #73

Denying there is a political middle isn't "progressive." Nixie Dec 5 #93

You still haven't answered my two questions. Emile Dec 5 #95

I doubt you need my answers to any of your distractions to Nixie Dec 5 #97

You just described a purity test! Thank you! Emile Dec 5 #98

Your contrived set up was the purity test. Just run a candidate because Nixie Dec 5 #99

You do know there are 6 wings to the democratic party? Emile Dec 5 #100

Oh Nixie Dec 5 #101

Just being literal. Emile Dec 5 #102

Centrist/establishment/status quo/corporate Dems: anti-progressive, corrupt, elite Them. Us: Righteous victims. betsuni Dec 5 #72

Curiosity here - not trying to make a point. LAS14 Dec 5 #56

I think Democrats should make your point - that public Democrats are not leading with those issues muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #67

Gov. Newsom has been left behind in his judgement of what's "Culturally Normal" justaprogressive Dec 5 #59

He's buying into RW framing again MustLoveBeagles Dec 5 #62

He was doing well, now I'm not impressed. Emile Dec 5 #89

I'm not either MustLoveBeagles Dec 5 #90

Alienating part of the party is not going to win elections. Emile Dec 5 #91

No it isn't MustLoveBeagles Dec 5 #92

We lead with tolerance bucolic_frolic Dec 5 #76

Focusing on the wrong things all the time. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 5 #77

Would that also be the response when a member of that community asks one of our politicians how they feel about them? BannonsLiver Dec 5 #81

If you think he's staking out territory well, what do you think his answer would be muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #84

He answered that in his podcast some were pressed about in March. BannonsLiver Dec 5 #85

Give me a link muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #86

Newsom, no 'e'. RandySF Dec 5 #78

very telling it has not been fixed Skittles Dec 5 #88

Telling, or maybe I've been busy? Shipwack Dec 6 #108

IT STILL HAS NOT BEEN FIXED Skittles Dec 6 #113

I, for one, will never vote for him in the primary if he runs. demmiblue Dec 5 #96

Let's see... MorbidButterflyTat Dec 5 #103

But they work really hard on it, like washing machines. betsuni Dec 5 #105

+1, yes, so desperate to continue the coveted victimization Nixie Dec 5 #106

We've seen this attempt of gaslighting before Niagara Dec 6 #111

What are the rules to being more culturally normal? Emile Dec 5 #104

To me The Bopper Dec 5 #107

OP here. I deeply regret spelling the governor's name wrong. Shipwack Dec 6 #109

I wouldn't worry about it. I do not understand the hypersensitivity about the extra e. I certainly do not see it... QueerDuck Dec 6 #110

Thanks! nt Shipwack Dec 6 #112

So would you rather have Newsom as the next President, Jack Valentino Monday #115

"Been away so long I hardly knew the place...." DFW Tuesday #116

I think this is what you're looking for: betsuni Tuesday #117

It gives a general background, thanks DFW Tuesday #118

This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Tuesday #119

This thread is everything that is wrong with the Dems and why you lost to this idiot. Fix The Stupid Tuesday #120