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Niagara

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17. His surname is spelled Newsom

Fri Dec 5, 2025, 06:54 AM

Dec 5

If an OP wants to accuse him of triangulating while misspelling his name I can't take the OP seriously.

The HuffPost also is NOT a credible source of news.

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I'm going to insert Newsom's entire statement so anyone else can't pick and choose what context they want to share or dissect.

“I mean, I — you know, we could talk about why Kamala lost, which is separate. I mean, it’s part derivative of the larger narrative, but issues around inflation scars. We don’t talk enough about interest rates. We didn’t talk about incumbency. Issues related, you just had Bibi on, related to Israeli politics. Immigration, the border in particular, you could talk about all those things, not just 107 days, not just talk about Biden’s determination or lack thereof in terms of passing the baton. But I think there’s a broader narrative that we ought to address. That is, we have to be more culturally normal. We have to be a little less judgmental. We have to be a party that understands the importance and power of the border substantively and politically.”

You know what else Newsom said at The New York Times DealBook Summit?

"I need to wake everybody up," Newsom said at The New York Times DealBook Summit. "This is the normalization of deviancy, and it was becoming socialized, normalized."

"Call someone the R-word or 'piggy' and somehow it's just Trump being Trump," Newsom went on. "There's nothing normal about this. He's a man-child. It's unbecoming of the President of the United States. He's dressed up as the pope. He's acting like he's Superman. This is not normal."

If “we don’t democratize our economy, we’re not going to save democracy,” Newsom said.

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Gov Newsome triangulating again. [View all] Shipwack Dec 4 OP

WTF is "culturally normal?" leftstreet Dec 4 #1

I would say this is a great example of what he's talking about. Nixie Dec 5 #14

Code for "don't talk about trans or non-binary rights"? LudwigPastorius Dec 5 #15

rich White male "christian" LuvLoogie Dec 5 #82

None of the "centrists" would ever mock or attack Trump as much as Jack Valentino Dec 8 #114

I think he's saying we need better messaging to get our values out..more on point Deuxcents Dec 4 #2

Can't say at this point whether that's right or wrong AS FAR AS winning some states we need in 2028. I hate Silent Type Dec 4 #3

He's swinging to the center way too soon Blasphemer Dec 4 #4

2026 comes first. maxsolomon Dec 5 #64

Ok. What is culturally normal? Raven123 Dec 4 #5

You know what it is. maxsolomon Dec 5 #65

The implication of Newsom's other sentences is "it's anti-immigration" muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #68

First, please spell his name right. usonian Dec 4 #6

What is "wildly" successful? awesomerwb1 Dec 5 #44

Bernie Sanders Packed an Arena in ... Utah usonian Dec 5 #46

That's great awesomerwb1 Dec 5 #48

You have to ask them. usonian Dec 5 #50

It would be interesting data to have awesomerwb1 Dec 5 #54

I caught some videos of the tour, and people said they were flipping. usonian Dec 5 #63

"Proof"? awesomerwb1 Dec 5 #66

Post removed Post removed Dec 4 #7

Exactly the point. We don't have to shove people's noses Bluetus Dec 4 #8

Most of those things aren't even popular among Democrats gulliver Dec 5 #11

. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 5 #28

It's part of health care. It doesn't have to be called out as a special issue. Fix healthcare for everyone, incl trans beaglelover Dec 5 #74

When Republicans object to trans health care, should Democrats defend it, or fold because it's a niche cultural issue? WhiskeyGrinder Dec 5 #79

They can just say trans health care is included in our health care plans. No need to dwell on it. beaglelover Dec 5 #80

A lot of those things are exaggerated by the right wing JI7 Dec 5 #13

I don't see data on those who don't vote, they're going after swing voters which are expensive iirc uponit7771 Dec 5 #16

I can't think of a single Democrat who doesn't use pronouns. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 5 #26

I'm a Democrat. I don't have my pronouns in my work signature. maxsolomon Dec 5 #69

Well stated. Sounds like Sunday morning at my church. LAS14 Dec 5 #53

When the right wants to strip trans people of rights, if not outright physically harm them TheProle Dec 5 #94

N E W S O M Skittles Dec 4 #9

*WE* have to be less judgmental??? Skittles Dec 4 #10

Being judgemental isn't the problem LuvLoogie Dec 5 #83

We have to do whatever we need to win JI7 Dec 5 #12

His surname is spelled Newsom Niagara Dec 5 #17

I applaud the OP for posting the Huff Post article in GD muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #18

There's sources posted here that are not reliable at all Niagara Dec 5 #20

I don't see that the bit you added before excuses what he said muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #21

Oh, only RW'ers are judgemental on issues? Niagara Dec 5 #24

In the grand scheme of things, yes, only Republican politicians are judgmental. muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #25

We are judgmental of Nazis and fascists, nothing wrong with that. They are judgmental of non whites- big problem Blues Heron Dec 5 #29

Presidents Obama and Clinton triangulated. President Biden did not. Jose Garcia Dec 5 #19

Biden stepped down after being hounded out by Clooney et al Blues Heron Dec 5 #32

And a litany of party leaders. BannonsLiver Dec 5 #38

Et al Blues Heron Dec 5 #39

He was on his way to a lanndslide loss Jose Garcia Dec 5 #41

He would have won -he's the only one to defeat Trump. Giving up incumbency was highly stupid. Blues Heron Dec 5 #42

After that idiot took a pot shot at MFer, the die was cast. maxsolomon Dec 5 #75

Dems need to find 80/20 issues they can hammer on GreatGazoo Dec 5 #22

All my lefty family members are tired of the pronoun thing mainer Dec 5 #23

Which Democratic candidates were demanding that? muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #27

I'm not referring to particular candidates mainer Dec 5 #43

So this is not about Democrats, ie what Newsom was talking about. muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #47

... BannonsLiver Dec 5 #35

Culturally normal another way to say the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?? NoMoreRepugs Dec 5 #30

Post removed Post removed Dec 5 #31

He's not wrong. BannonsLiver Dec 5 #33

So is he pushing a purity test for the party? Emile Dec 5 #34

The opposite, actually. BannonsLiver Dec 5 #36

LOL, I don't think so! Emile Dec 5 #37

If you say so. BannonsLiver Dec 5 #40

I know exactly what you're referring to. maxsolomon Dec 5 #70

It's verboten to discuss but you are of course correct. BannonsLiver Dec 5 #87

He's saying to drop the purity tests. Nixie Dec 5 #45

I guess it depends on which side of the political spectrum Emile Dec 5 #49

He's definitely not on the spectrum that alienates voters with Nixie Dec 5 #51

As I said, it depends on what side of the political spectrum your on. Emile Dec 5 #52

We've all seen enough of this insistence and labeling of Nixie Dec 5 #55

See my post #56. nt LAS14 Dec 5 #57

Purity tests, on which side of the spectrum are you talking about? Emile Dec 5 #58

Centrist is really the obvious purity test. A way of smearing our candidates Nixie Dec 5 #60

Then if centrist is a smear, why do some politicians call themselves centrist? Emile Dec 5 #61

The purity test smear is obviously that being normal, as in not being Nixie Dec 5 #71

Are you saying , if you are not a centrist, you are fringe? Emile Dec 5 #73

Denying there is a political middle isn't "progressive." Nixie Dec 5 #93

You still haven't answered my two questions. Emile Dec 5 #95

I doubt you need my answers to any of your distractions to Nixie Dec 5 #97

You just described a purity test! Thank you! Emile Dec 5 #98

Your contrived set up was the purity test. Just run a candidate because Nixie Dec 5 #99

You do know there are 6 wings to the democratic party? Emile Dec 5 #100

Oh Nixie Dec 5 #101

Just being literal. Emile Dec 5 #102

Centrist/establishment/status quo/corporate Dems: anti-progressive, corrupt, elite Them. Us: Righteous victims. betsuni Dec 5 #72

Curiosity here - not trying to make a point. LAS14 Dec 5 #56

I think Democrats should make your point - that public Democrats are not leading with those issues muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #67

Gov. Newsom has been left behind in his judgement of what's "Culturally Normal" justaprogressive Dec 5 #59

He's buying into RW framing again MustLoveBeagles Dec 5 #62

He was doing well, now I'm not impressed. Emile Dec 5 #89

I'm not either MustLoveBeagles Dec 5 #90

Alienating part of the party is not going to win elections. Emile Dec 5 #91

No it isn't MustLoveBeagles Dec 5 #92

We lead with tolerance bucolic_frolic Dec 5 #76

Focusing on the wrong things all the time. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 5 #77

Would that also be the response when a member of that community asks one of our politicians how they feel about them? BannonsLiver Dec 5 #81

If you think he's staking out territory well, what do you think his answer would be muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #84

He answered that in his podcast some were pressed about in March. BannonsLiver Dec 5 #85

Give me a link muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #86

Newsom, no 'e'. RandySF Dec 5 #78

very telling it has not been fixed Skittles Dec 5 #88

Telling, or maybe I've been busy? Shipwack Dec 6 #108

IT STILL HAS NOT BEEN FIXED Skittles Dec 6 #113

I, for one, will never vote for him in the primary if he runs. demmiblue Dec 5 #96

Let's see... MorbidButterflyTat Dec 5 #103

But they work really hard on it, like washing machines. betsuni Dec 5 #105

+1, yes, so desperate to continue the coveted victimization Nixie Dec 5 #106

We've seen this attempt of gaslighting before Niagara Dec 6 #111

What are the rules to being more culturally normal? Emile Dec 5 #104

To me The Bopper Dec 5 #107

OP here. I deeply regret spelling the governor's name wrong. Shipwack Dec 6 #109

I wouldn't worry about it. I do not understand the hypersensitivity about the extra e. I certainly do not see it... QueerDuck Dec 6 #110

Thanks! nt Shipwack Dec 6 #112

So would you rather have Newsom as the next President, Jack Valentino Dec 8 #115

"Been away so long I hardly knew the place...." DFW Dec 9 #116

I think this is what you're looking for: betsuni Dec 9 #117

It gives a general background, thanks DFW Dec 9 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Dec 9 #119

This thread is everything that is wrong with the Dems and why you lost to this idiot. Fix The Stupid Dec 9 #120