Should DU demand a recount?

[MadameButterfly]

72. We're supposed to prove fraud before

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We can look for it.

I'm reading that the Spoonburger (?) letter is suspect because I see people questioning his numbers.
I'm more interested in the letter that mentions breaches in voting systems where Republicans accessed software in Geargia, Colorado, and I think the letter mentioned another incident. I was aware of Georgia and Colorado, where people were prosecuted. I just think that if Republicans were up to this, we can't assume we caught every incident. If this kind of thing makes electins hackable, we should assume they tried. Possibly with Kremlin help. We shouldn't expect an obvious clue like Bullet Ballots ahead of doing the recounts necessary to find out.

Trump said he had plenty of votes, spent a lot of time playing golf, ran a lackluster campaign. It appeared then that his plan was more about stealing an election than winning votes. He accused Dems of cheating which is usually an indication of what he is doing, but also a way to get us to declare the election fair in advance. Elon had an app that new the results 4 hours ahead. What did he know?

When a 5-4 vote on the Supreme Court gave Florida to Bush, we began the descent into autocracy. Sandra Day OConnor wanted to reitre, and oh Horror if Gore appointed another Supreme Court Justice. We weren't asking them to appoint Gore, only allow a state recount which these days would be automatic with a margin so tight.

Kerry won 16 states in exit polls that shifted to Bush in the wee hours of the morning. Statisticians sid this was statistically impossible by chance. This was when there were fewer protections with voting machines, and Diebold CEO had promised to deliver the election for Bush. A critical hour in the middle of the night, Democrats and observers were shut out of the counting in Ohio where the election was decided for Bush. The recount that followed allow Diebold to "service" the machines during the process. People upset about this were accused of wearing tinfoil hats even by Dems. We slept through that one at our peril.

Democrats give up too easily. We think we can recover, but we haven't. We would have led the world addressing global warming. We'd have a solidly Democratic Supreme Court. No Iraq war. We wouldn't be facing fascism right now.

I don't know what Kamala could really do right now. i heard she is on vacation, so I guess game over. Perhaps she explored all the legal options. But as long as we have to prove fraud before we look for evidence, we will never find it. Cheaters wont' cheat within the .5 % needed to trigger a recount. There should be robust recounts easy to obtain just in case, and often.

I will not trust anything in 2022 that isn't hand counted because Trump will use his power to meddle. Even then, what will Trump do to keep Dems out of the count, and will we take that lying down? We talk about midterms as if they will matter. But if we don't get real about the risk of hacking in a world that Trump controls, they won't. Besides all the other things they'll do to unlevel the playing field.