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kansasobama

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163. For all the good things so far, Bernie has lost it
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:52 AM
Nov 2024

Constant criticism about Dems not appealing to the working class shows how ancient he is. He needs to come to grips that his non college educated working class are the cult MAGA. This is not because Biden and Dems have not done everything for this class. On the other hand, the so called college educated elite millionaires he constantly gripes about have become more democratic than ever. These Dems do not want tax cuts for the rich. They are concerned about deficits.

Dems have to make an effort to find a language to talk about working class not voting against their interests. Why don't Bernie do that more? Does he have an organization to focus solely on that?

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He hasn't even got the good sense to register as a Democrat Walleye Nov 2024 #1
He "Registered" Two Times.. when he Cha Nov 2024 #91
You can not register as belonging to a party in Vermont karynnj Nov 2024 #139
I agree with all that, I hate postmortems. Death means it's over. Walleye Nov 2024 #140
He knows the effort would be wasted Raven123 Nov 2024 #2
If so he needs to say so delisen Nov 2024 #3
It is my opinion. Just answering the question posed by the OP. Raven123 Nov 2024 #22
He knows republicans don't go into power until January 2025. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #117
His efforts are wasted on me. yardwork Nov 2024 #4
x 1000 Maru Kitteh Nov 2024 #34
+++++++++ ♾️ sheshe2 Nov 2024 #56
he makes me sick Skittles Nov 2024 #83
Yep DeepWinter Nov 2024 #137
And some folks wonder why so many Democrats comradebillyboy Nov 2024 #5
Yes, it is obvious PatSeg Nov 2024 #7
Yes he Rebl2 Nov 2024 #21
And I say that as someone who used to really PatSeg Nov 2024 #58
he very much helped get us Donald Fucking Trump Skittles Nov 2024 #84
That was exactly my reaction. It sounded like he was on board to help Democrats win and implement a progressive Martin68 Nov 2024 #6
And over the years Bernie has done a whole lot of ranting, PatSeg Nov 2024 #9
"The working man" wolfie001 Nov 2024 #10
Too funny!!! wolfie001 Nov 2024 #8
Bernie Sanders is too busy NORMALIZING and ENDORSING christofascism cadoman Nov 2024 #11
Okay, that is one step too far for me. Susan Calvin Nov 2024 #15
Did you read the article? mountain grammy Nov 2024 #88
No, just commenting on the part of it posted here. Susan Calvin Nov 2024 #116
Here's the thing, we're stuck with the worst president elect imagineable mountain grammy Nov 2024 #125
I know Bernie knows that. Susan Calvin Nov 2024 #141
And the Bernie voters who voted trump mountain grammy Nov 2024 #144
I heard a theory somewhere on Bernie voters who voted Trump. Susan Calvin Nov 2024 #145
Well, he did throw in "if he follows through." Susan Calvin Nov 2024 #119
because he thinks capping credit card rates at 10% is a good idea? mountain grammy Nov 2024 #87
if Hitler wanted to cap credit card rates at 10%, would you work with him to do it? cadoman Nov 2024 #149
so you do know Bernie is Jewish? mountain grammy Nov 2024 #152
I love Bernie. rubbersole Nov 2024 #12
What has Bernie accomplished, other than railing? yardwork Nov 2024 #24
We wouldn't have had a majority in the Senate without him. rubbersole Nov 2024 #27
Or without Joe Manchin moonscape Nov 2024 #29
So Sanders voted with the Democrats most of the time. yardwork Nov 2024 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Nov 2024 #95
Actually the current make up of the US Senate SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2024 #37
All the tiebreaker votes Kamala made wouldn't have been possible without him. rubbersole Nov 2024 #47
I wasn't criticizing Sanders SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2024 #50
What's the post-election makeup of the Senate? I thought we lost seats? Hekate Nov 2024 #53
Yes, Republicans will take control SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2024 #54
👋 Thanks. rubbersole Nov 2024 #67
He did help destroy HRC mr715 Nov 2024 #65
And by destroying you mean mountain grammy Nov 2024 #70
Yup mr715 Nov 2024 #80
Hillary wasn't destroyed mountain grammy Nov 2024 #94
She lost the same freaking corner of Wisconsin by 22,000 votes questionseverything Nov 2024 #105
Yes, he did LizBeth Nov 2024 #136
Bernie got the fed audited, the clinics in the aca are because of Bernie questionseverything Nov 2024 #104
I always find it interesting when a non-Democrat presumes to tell actual Democrats and the Democratic Party tritsofme Nov 2024 #13
Why are media pundits still listening to him and interviewing him? FakeNoose Nov 2024 #14
Because people watch, listen, read - and talk about it when they do. Mariana Nov 2024 #26
He's a contrarian. And he knows he can continue to be a contrarian haele Nov 2024 #63
Exactly.. he "attacks Dems" Ergo the Media Cha Nov 2024 #93
Where are the Dixiecrats when the party needs to win elections? The Democrats need to stop being so opposed LiberalArkie Nov 2024 #16
I've always wondered Mblaze Nov 2024 #17
Wow, Pavlovian much? jaxexpat Nov 2024 #18
Oz voteragain Nov 2024 #19
... sheshe2 Nov 2024 #57
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!" Oopsie Daisy Nov 2024 #59
lol 😂 sheshe2 Nov 2024 #60
I have to agree Rebl2 Nov 2024 #20
If all his supporters had voted for Clinton in 2016, we wouldn't have trump now and would control Supreme Court. Silent Type Nov 2024 #23
Can you prove that? SnoopDog Nov 2024 #30
Can you prove it's not true? I'm convinced of it mainly because Sanders, Warren, Reich, etc., criticized Obama/Clinton Silent Type Nov 2024 #38
One cannot prove a negative...nt SnoopDog Nov 2024 #42
You can never prove a negative SCantiGOP Nov 2024 #43
I live in Florida. rubbersole Nov 2024 #31
Bernie attracted a lot of republicans, right-leaning independents, and far-lefties to vote for him. Intractable Nov 2024 #73
He attracted people like Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Rogan JI7 Nov 2024 #100
You dismiss tens of thousands of voters with your flippant comment. Intractable Nov 2024 #103
Why hasn't he said anything about Tulsi Gabbard ? JI7 Nov 2024 #107
Perhaps he has. Do you know everything he says? Intractable Nov 2024 #108
Last thing I can find is him defending Tulsi JI7 Nov 2024 #109
Your posts are impertent to the OP. It's just silly Bernie bashing. Intractable Nov 2024 #110
Tulsi Gabbard was a huge Bernie supporter and is now going to be part of Trump's JI7 Nov 2024 #111
Perhaps he has. Perhaps he has no control over Tulsi, who managed to betray everyone's expectations of her. Intractable Nov 2024 #112
This is not 2016. Tulsi Gabbard is picked by Trump to JI7 Nov 2024 #113
Yes. But your Bernie hate is eight years old. Intractable Nov 2024 #114
He does nothing but scold and lecture democrats JI7 Nov 2024 #115
That would be as accurate as me saying you do nothing but scold Bernie. Intractable Nov 2024 #118
Maybe Bernie should stop the hate JI7 Nov 2024 #120
To suggest that Bernie has MAGA supporters is just plain friggin stupid. Intractable Nov 2024 #121
Tulsi Gabbard JI7 Nov 2024 #123
Repeating it over and over again doesn't make your point of view any more valid. Intractable Nov 2024 #126
But he felt the need to defend Tulsi Gabbard JI7 Nov 2024 #127
Wow. You don't stop! You live in the past. Intractable Nov 2024 #128
Tulsi Gabbard joining Trump is happening right now JI7 Nov 2024 #130
Wash, rinse, repeat. Intractable Nov 2024 #131
How would someone who has only been here since July know what someone posted about Bernie 8 years ago? AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2024 #132
Bingo. sheshe2 Nov 2024 #146
Amazing isn't it? Blows yours mind, huh? Intractable Nov 2024 #148
Is JPR out of business? sheshe2 Nov 2024 #147
Yes he did.. and Now Gabbard is in Cha Nov 2024 #151
Those Stein voters hated Hillary So Cha Nov 2024 #150
The ones who eventually voted for Stein very clearly stated up front to the Democratic party that they would not Intractable Nov 2024 #153
OH So bad.. they wanted ASSHOLE Fuck Cha Nov 2024 #156
Oh, yes. Let's just pin the blame on that narrow group of voters who went for Stein. Intractable Nov 2024 #157
I just DID. Putin Puppet Stein's GD LIES.. and Cha Nov 2024 #161
And you think those Stein votes would go to Kamala? Intractable Nov 2024 #162
Sanders produced Biden's major bills that got passed SnoopDog Nov 2024 #25
What!? "It's... difficult to get democrats to do the right thing?" sheshe2 Nov 2024 #32
Which bills did Sanders produce? yardwork Nov 2024 #35
I'm guessing that... SnoopDog Nov 2024 #41
That lets me out, then. yardwork Nov 2024 #44
It was a False Accusation.. Thats Why Cha Nov 2024 #155
Jesus. This is just bonkers. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #40
Bernie pushed through the $15 minimum wage at Amazon flamingdem Nov 2024 #28
Progressives like Bernie and AOC were pointing the party in the right direction but the problem is yaesu Nov 2024 #36
Some of the interesting stuff he's accomplished Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #39
Because he can't get donations from them nini Nov 2024 #45
I'm not understanding the logic of the OP ThePartyThatListens Nov 2024 #46
You are new here. So, you don't know of the long-standing Bernie hate on DU. Intractable Nov 2024 #74
Frankly, I could sense it. ThePartyThatListens Nov 2024 #77
Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose...nt SidDithers Nov 2024 #48
What? All Americans have accents! It's a symbol of......their.......uh......oh, you mean the high commas*.....okay..... jaxexpat Nov 2024 #106
French is perfectly legible without the accented characters. MineralMan Nov 2024 #142
Because all he knows how to do is punch down Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #49
Well... Mike Nelson Nov 2024 #51
Hillary ran in 2016, not 2020. niyad Nov 2024 #96
Ah yes... Mike Nelson Nov 2024 #97
Sadly, Bernie is a scold, & the people he scolds are Democrats because we try to live up to our ideals & come short Hekate Nov 2024 #52
Why would repukes listen to Bernie at all? sakabatou Nov 2024 #55
If you are speaking the truth Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #61
It falls on deaf ears sakabatou Nov 2024 #62
He still needs to tell the truth Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #66
Tell me, why should he play chess against pigeons? sakabatou Nov 2024 #85
He is criticizing the people who are trying to help. Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #92
Not. H2O Man Nov 2024 #64
The problem with Bernie's "advice" Hassler Nov 2024 #68
This election is saying different Asa13 Nov 2024 #69
That assumes JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #99
Because they dont care Asa13 Nov 2024 #71
Really, Asa? sheshe2 Nov 2024 #159
Bernie a fraud? mountain grammy Nov 2024 #72
+1 Bernie is an ally and that's why people listen to him. Intractable Nov 2024 #76
Because they won. alarimer Nov 2024 #75
Agree it's irrational and sickening mountain grammy Nov 2024 #160
Because he knows they won't listen ColinC Nov 2024 #78
He's been doing it for years, elleng Nov 2024 #79
With MA GA going to run the government Progressive dog Nov 2024 #81
I honestly do not give one FUCK what he says Skittles Nov 2024 #82
Considering that the Democratic Party Leadership lost this election... SnoopDog Nov 2024 #86
Bernie is always a shite show Bread and Circuses Nov 2024 #89
What makes you think that he isn't? Bernie speaks to everyone about the issues and policies that are critical Uncle Joe Nov 2024 #90
Has Bernie Sanders Said anything about Tulsi Gabbard JI7 Nov 2024 #98
I think he got a couple post offices named. Ursus Rex Nov 2024 #101
Exactly! Great question! Why, indeed? Oopsie Daisy Nov 2024 #102
What are the other 46 Democratic Senators supposed to be telling Republicans? Autumn Nov 2024 #122
Because, as always, it's easier to demand action than to do it. Happy Hoosier Nov 2024 #124
That should be a question for Senator Sanders to answer. Omnipresent Nov 2024 #129
He is not a democrat Dumpy Nov 2024 #133
Why ask anyone here? Why not ask him directly? He's the only that can provide that explanation. msfiddlestix Nov 2024 #134
I have only seen him tell Democratic women what to do. LizBeth Nov 2024 #135
Because their side gave up gentlemanly politics, play nice, looking political and worrying about our feelings. Hotler Nov 2024 #138
Because it would be even less effective than telling the Democrats. MineralMan Nov 2024 #143
Bernie stood up to Trump. Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #154
He was a big help on getting Trump elected the first time. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2024 #158
For all the good things so far, Bernie has lost it kansasobama Nov 2024 #163
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