Why isn't Bernie telling Republicans what they need to do?

[dansolo]

The Republicans won everything. They hold all levers of power. If Bernie was really the champion of the working class, he would redirect all his efforts to challenging the Republicans and speaking out against their efforts to roll back all worker rights and protections. But he still is only attacking Democrats still. This is why I view him as a fraud. He talks a good game, but what has he actually accomplished in all his years in Congress? I have more respect for Elizabeth Warren and AOC, because they are more likely to enact real change.

[Walleye]

1. He hasn't even got the good sense to register as a Democrat

What has he ever accomplished?

[Cha]

91. He "Registered" Two Times.. when he

ran Against Hillary & Joe Biden.

I'm Not saying anything else for Obvious reasons.

[karynnj]

139. You can not register as belonging to a party in Vermont

He and Angus King, are independents who caucus with the Democrats.

His views are well known and he is popular in his state. He is often seen doing normal things like going to the local grocery store.

I get that some here react strongly whenever he criticizes anything done by Democratic leaders, ignoring that after we lose an election MANY Democrats opine on where the candidate and party went wrong.

I have always found most of those attacks unfair and tending to have an underlying message that the speaker is thinking someone more like me would have won. It is not just Bernie and people like him, I remember the unfair Bill Clinton comments after both Gore and Kerry lost.

I wish that ALL Democrats and allies would stay quiet on postmortems for at least a few months so those of us still hurt by the loss can at least reach a point where it is not a fresh pain. I get that losses are always going to be followed by reexamining what we could have done better and why we lost.

Some reasons may have no easy solution. People saying anything starting with "we needed to get out our message on ..." need to see that it might not be the "message", but the lack of trusted channels through which we can reach nearly half the country. That is something a candidate even in a normal primary/general election can't do.

Over the decades, we have allowed "news" channels to exist and develop that are rarely held accountable for lying. The bar for a public person to challenge them for libel or slander is very high. Not winning such a case would be devastating as it would be misconstrued. It was only when Fox and others demeaned Dominion, a company, that they were successfully sued.

It seems the three biggest issues we lost on were immigration, economy and the despicable demonization of some of the most vulnerable people, trans. On each, correcting disinformation may not have helped much.

On immigration, Republicans used several tactics to exploit underlying xenophobia. They used everything from some tragic stories of young women killed to lies about immigrants being given more than some of poorest citizens have to claims that immigrants were taking jobs to pure smears like Haitians eating cats and dogs.

On the economy, the Biden administration did a remarkable job. However, the Republicans were able to get enough people to consider only the preCovid part of Trump's term. Trump inherited a thriving economy. He passed his unsustainable tax cuts that were a large part of the root of our current inflation and deficit problems. However in 2018 and 2019, they stimulated the economy. The problem was that it was hard for many to see Biden did a great job dealing with the many interrelated economic problems he inherited while Trump took the strong Obama economy and created the mess Biden inherited.

My husband watched the world series. I think in every game, there were terrible ads that cherry picked Harris comments on treatment for Trans in prison and other Trans issues. I honestly do not have any idea how Democrats could have responded. On the prison treatment, the policy had been the same under Trump.

[Walleye]

140. I agree with all that, I hate postmortems. Death means it's over.

A lot of it is magical thinking.

[Raven123]

2. He knows the effort would be wasted

[delisen]

3. If so he needs to say so

Why are you interpreting his silence for him ?

[Raven123]

22. It is my opinion. Just answering the question posed by the OP.

[jimfields33]

117. He knows republicans don't go into power until January 2025.

I’m sure he’ll have a lot to say next year. A bill hasn’t even been made for trump’s signature yet.

[yardwork]

4. His efforts are wasted on me.

I'm tired of being lectured by Bernie Sanders. He's been a senator for decades. He's in a position of power. I'm not. I work to elect good people. What has Sanders done?

This is a serious question.

[Maru Kitteh]

34. x 1000

[sheshe2]

56. +++++++++ ♾️

[Skittles]

83. he makes me sick

he helped bring us Donald Fucking Trump

[DeepWinter]

137. Yep

He's attacking those he thinks he can change. No point in wasting time on the brick walls.

[comradebillyboy]

5. And some folks wonder why so many Democrats

despise Bernie Sanders. The man spent most of his career attacking Democrats from the left with absurd purity tests. Biden is the only prominent Democrat who would give him the time of day. He's just gone back to who he's always been.

[PatSeg]

7. Yes, it is obvious

that Bernie just needs to hear the sound of his own voice over and over again. He is only happy when he is in attack mode. I'm afraid it is more about his ego than his altruistic dreams for humanity. I've really grown tired of his angry rants.

[Rebl2]

21. Yes he

comes across as an angry old man and a know it all.

[PatSeg]

58. And I say that as someone who used to really

admire the man. I remember listening to him every Friday morning on Thom Hartmann's radio show when I lived in California (early 2000s). I think it was called Breakfast With Bernie. 20 years later, he really hasn't changed much, just got crankier.

Meanwhile, people like Joe Biden have changed dramatically in the same timeframe and look how much he's accomplished in less than four years.

[Skittles]

84. he very much helped get us Donald Fucking Trump

Bernie was NEVER going to be president, NOT FUCKING EVER

[Martin68]

6. That was exactly my reaction. It sounded like he was on board to help Democrats win and implement a progressive

agenda, but he couldn't wait to tell Democrats what's wrong with them when we lost.

[PatSeg]

9. And over the years Bernie has done a whole lot of ranting,

while Biden has actually accomplished some of the lofty goals that Bernie aspired to. He is all talk and ego.

[wolfie001]

10. "The working man"

Blah blah blah. He should've called out those two clowns Manshit and that fake greaseball Sinema especially after she voted down the minimum wage bill.

[wolfie001]

8. Too funny!!!

And pathetically true. Should I laugh or cry

[cadoman]

11. Bernie Sanders is too busy NORMALIZING and ENDORSING christofascism

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-credit-card-limit-interest-debt-1986463



Hey Bernface, Biden is in office right now, how about working on this policy with him instead??

[Susan Calvin]

15. Okay, that is one step too far for me.

Saying you'll work with Trump on anything is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

[mountain grammy]

88. Did you read the article?

[Susan Calvin]

116. No, just commenting on the part of it posted here.

However, I am a Bernie fan, so I suppose I will now go read the rest of it to see if that is accurate or if there is anything to redeem it. On the face of it, though, I don't like it. The only thing to do with Trump is resist him. I imagine the whole thing about the credit card interest rate cap will turn out to be moot. Very few good things that he says he will do actually get done. Maybe none, I haven't been keeping close track.

[mountain grammy]

125. Here's the thing, we're stuck with the worst president elect imagineable

Bernie knows that. But when something inadvertently falls out of trump's mouth that will help people, Bernie will jump on it knowing it will just be another empty promise but something that people desperately need and he'll fight for it, but republicans won't and THAT is what we must resist, that they talk the talk but obstruct anything and everything that doesn't benefit the rich, and ridiculously high interest rates for consumers is a rich man's wet dream.

Bernie Sanders has and always will be on our side and will always resist right wing extremism and funneling money to the rich, even when Democrats do it.

Credit card interest and the raw greed behind it should have been mentioned a few times during the campaign.. enough to get the attention of the media and possible trickle down to the damn non rich fools who voted trump and are crushed by credit card debt. Like student debt, the debt's been paid, the interest never will be.

[Susan Calvin]

141. I know Bernie knows that.

I'm just picturing idiots who are going to be pointing and saying, "See, Bernie supports Trump"

[mountain grammy]

144. And the Bernie voters who voted trump

Like some Obama voters too. Makes my head explode I’ll never understand.

[Susan Calvin]

145. I heard a theory somewhere on Bernie voters who voted Trump.

The theory is that in both cases they wanted a disruptor. Apparently the idiots can't distinguish between constructive and destructive disruption.

[Susan Calvin]

119. Well, he did throw in "if he follows through."

Which, in my opinion, should have been followed by "although that is not likely," or some such. As it was in the article, it could definitely come off as sanewashing Trump

[mountain grammy]

87. because he thinks capping credit card rates at 10% is a good idea?

that's what you call "normalizing and endorsing" Christofascism? You can't be serious. Do you have credit cards? Do you use them? What's the interest rate? mine is 19% and I pay it off every month.

Do you read what you posted here?

[cadoman]

149. if Hitler wanted to cap credit card rates at 10%, would you work with him to do it?

Or would you say no, because it's fucking Hitler?

And I don't ask that question flippantly, because a lot of anti-Semitism has its origins cloaked in "banking reform".

I can't help but think this is a dog whistle to TSF's Nazi followers, or perhaps the Russian government. I'm not sure whether Bernie has just been tricked or maybe they've made a move on him...

[mountain grammy]

152. so you do know Bernie is Jewish?

I hear what you're saying because I'm also Jewish and I hadn't thought about it like that. You have a good point and, truthfully, I've used that same argument about making nice with Nazis.
It's true that high interest rates are probably blamed on Jews so regulating them could be seen in that light, I just don't know. Sometimes the Bernie hate on this platform is so visceral gives me pause, so you're not far out there.
That said, I know is friends who had to put a medical or dental procedure or a car repair on a credit card and 10 years later are still paying for it. It's a crushing debt with the banks charging 19-20% There is no way in hell republicans will do anything to stop the banks from doing this, but I wish Democrats had addressed it in their campaign. I do think it would resonate with many people much more than not taxing tips.
Bernie's not going to be working with trump, but he will support anything that he believes will help people. I absolutely trust his judgment on that.

[rubbersole]

12. I love Bernie.

He is constantly against the "policies" of the billionaire class. Some of his criticism isn't appreciated but the fact he caucuses with the Dems is appreciated. What other politician rails against Citizens United as much as he does?

[yardwork]

24. What has Bernie accomplished, other than railing?

I'm sick of his finger shaking in my face, telling me I'm not good enough. He's been a senator for decades. Name one piece of legislation he's introduced? Name one coalition he's created that actually accomplished something?

We all rail against Citizens United. Our only chance to overturn it was lost when Trump was elected in 2016. Sanders did that.

[rubbersole]

27. We wouldn't have had a majority in the Senate without him.

Other than that....

[moonscape]

29. Or without Joe Manchin

That’s not enough

[yardwork]

33. So Sanders voted with the Democrats most of the time.

Why's he always complaining about the Democrats, then?

[SocialDemocrat61]

37. Actually the current make up of the US Senate

is 51-49. So Democrats would still have the majority without Sanders.

[rubbersole]

47. All the tiebreaker votes Kamala made wouldn't have been possible without him.

Manchin and Sinema made Bernie look like a Saint. I try to avoid defending politicians - just as a matter of principle. Sanders rightfully deserves criticism at times. The Dems would be worse off if he didn't caucus with us. I'm retired IBEW. Bernie stood with unions more than any other politician until Biden championed organized labor. I'm grateful for his support of working people. Working people are royally fucked now that the repubs drive the bus. These are the good old days. Criticize anyone you like. But pundits saying Marco Rubio is a good choice for SofS shows us just how bad it really is.

[SocialDemocrat61]

50. I wasn't criticizing Sanders

I was just pointing out a fact about the current makeup of the US Senate.

[Hekate]

53. What's the post-election makeup of the Senate? I thought we lost seats?

[SocialDemocrat61]

54. Yes, Republicans will take control

in the new year.

[rubbersole]

67. 👋 Thanks.

[mr715]

65. He did help destroy HRC

Not to litigate old battles.

[mountain grammy]

70. And by destroying you mean

Campaigning vigorously for her and telling his supporters they “must vote “ for Hillary Clinton.

[mr715]

80. Yup

That.

That vigorous campaign and his full throated, and early endorsement of the Democratic party nominee in 2016. That.

[mountain grammy]

94. Hillary wasn't destroyed

She got more votes than Obama in 2012. She lost the electoral college. It was not Bernie Sanders’ fault. That’s utterly ridiculous.

[questionseverything]

105. She lost the same freaking corner of Wisconsin by 22,000 votes

That Kamala just lost by 30,000

Ne corner of Wisconsin has lotta dre voting machines, no actual ballot to check and Wisconsin law doesn’t allow for people to look at ballots and hand count them anyway so yea, definitely Bernie’s fault our candidates are loosing

-this is bitter sarcasm in case anyone womders-

[LizBeth]

136. Yes, he did

[questionseverything]

104. Bernie got the fed audited, the clinics in the aca are because of Bernie

Lots of school lunch stuff because Bernie got it included

Those $600. Unemployment checks during the first of the pandemic were because of Bernie

And in October alone Bernie did 24 campaign rallies for harris

[tritsofme]

13. I always find it interesting when a non-Democrat presumes to tell actual Democrats and the Democratic Party

what to do…about anything.

I’m not particularly interested in his opinion on any subject.

[FakeNoose]

14. Why are media pundits still listening to him and interviewing him?

Apparently he only gets free TV time when he attacks the Democratic Party.
If he tried to throw blame on the Repukes, nobody would pay any attention.

[Mariana]

26. Because people watch, listen, read - and talk about it when they do.

This thread is a perfect example.

[haele]

63. He's a contrarian. And he knows he can continue to be a contrarian

In the Democratic Party. The GOP would kick him out. So he's stuck playing with us.
He votes with the party (for the most part). And he's signed on as co-sponser on some bills that have added over the years. So there's that.

Haele

[Cha]

93. Exactly.. he "attacks Dems" Ergo the Media

adores him.

[LiberalArkie]

16. Where are the Dixiecrats when the party needs to win elections? The Democrats need to stop being so opposed

to indentured servitude and higher wages that only hurt the owner class. The people need to be put in their places otherwise they commoners might start biting their masters. Only by adopting an Dixiecrat agenda will the party ever get away from the loosing policies.

That sound about right?

[Mblaze]

17. I've always wondered

Why, since he ran for President in the Democratic primaries and constantly tells the Democrats what they should do, doesn't he declare as a Democrat rather than an Independent? Work from the inside rather than a quasi-outside position with only a few fellow Independents to caucus with.

[jaxexpat]

18. Wow, Pavlovian much?

Over the years, our enemies have spent as much energy drowning out Bernie's message as they have on our own. Why would that be? Would it be because Democrats have set speed records stepping away from any label of "socialism" to the extent they have trouble being identified in the minds of actual voters as anything except LGBTQ and pro-choice supporters. Both of which, no matter how fundamentally relevant, tend to alienate the electorate. We should have bought in and carried the "socialist" name high. It would have been relatively easier to demonize the greedy 1% than to convince people hypnotized by high egg prices that they need access to sex change and abortion rights. If someone has been sleeping for 25 years, they may be excused for not appreciating the irony that the party of oligarchs is gaining middle class support by condemning Democratic economic policies as liberal wastefulness and inflationary incompetence while pointing at the failure of their own policies for examples. Our response is "don't use or even get close to the socialist word", people have been taught to hate that word. All the while, Republicans have convinced a slim majority that feudalism is utopia and Democrats can't perform basic arithmetic.
So, go ahead and pillory Bernie. That's a great cause and will set us up for unlimited success in the mid-terms..

[voteragain]

19. Oz

the curtain has been opened.

now we will see if politicians who talk the talk will walk the walk....

I make no claim who, I am watching who. I am beyond listening to words.

[sheshe2]

57. ...

[Oopsie Daisy]

59. "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

https://y.yarn.co/ab496f8b-de98-46b0-adec-0f867e873ecb_text.mp4

?t=26

[sheshe2]

60. lol 😂

That’s the one!

[Rebl2]

20. I have to agree

[Silent Type]

23. If all his supporters had voted for Clinton in 2016, we wouldn't have trump now and would control Supreme Court.

[SnoopDog]

30. Can you prove that?

I would like to see the data/research that you used for your post.

[Silent Type]

38. Can you prove it's not true? I'm convinced of it mainly because Sanders, Warren, Reich, etc., criticized Obama/Clinton

on trade agreements right up to October 2016 with a massive misinformation campaign.

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion.

[SnoopDog]

42. One cannot prove a negative...nt

[SCantiGOP]

43. You can never prove a negative

even if you say that you are “convinced.”

[rubbersole]

31. I live in Florida.

Gore won Florida. The SC and Jeb! took the Presidency from Gore... Our planet is not forgiving us.

[Intractable]

73. Bernie attracted a lot of republicans, right-leaning independents, and far-lefties to vote for him.

He had a reputation of being honest and forthright. It was appealing to people who were fed-up with party politics.

When he lost the primary to Hillary, his right-leaning voters went back to where they came from, the Republican party.

The ones on the far left went to Jill Stein.

Despite his efforts to convince them that Trump was the worst possible choice, Bernie had no control of these votes after he lost.

Those votes were never ours to own. They were on loan.

[JI7]

100. He attracted people like Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Rogan

that liked him attacking Democrats so it can help Trump win.

[Intractable]

103. You dismiss tens of thousands of voters with your flippant comment.

Who needs their votes? I mean, like, we're just winning everything.

[JI7]

107. Why hasn't he said anything about Tulsi Gabbard ?

[Intractable]

108. Perhaps he has. Do you know everything he says?

Bernie this, Bernie that. Blah Blah Blah.

[JI7]

109. Last thing I can find is him defending Tulsi

[Intractable]

110. Your posts are impertent to the OP. It's just silly Bernie bashing.

Got news for ya. Hillary lost the election because she lost. Get over it.

[JI7]

111. Tulsi Gabbard was a huge Bernie supporter and is now going to be part of Trump's

administration. Strange that he has nothing to say about it. And his last comment on Tulsi is defending her

Why won't he call out his own supporters ?

[Intractable]

112. Perhaps he has. Perhaps he has no control over Tulsi, who managed to betray everyone's expectations of her.

You really need to get over the 2016 election. In the fight against fascism, we need all the allies we can get.

Heck, on this issue, I'd even ally with the likes of you.

[JI7]

113. This is not 2016. Tulsi Gabbard is picked by Trump to

join his admin next year.

[Intractable]

114. Yes. But your Bernie hate is eight years old.

And it's quite tiresome. I shall not respond further.

You have yourself a nice day. (Try not to think about the Bernie boogie man.)

[JI7]

115. He does nothing but scold and lecture democrats

but has no comment for one of his biggest supporters supporting and joining Trump. Strange.

[Intractable]

118. That would be as accurate as me saying you do nothing but scold Bernie.

I'm sure you do other things, but I don't see them.

You've been angry with Bernie for eight years, and are spouting illogical nonsense to defend it in the present. (Bernie is not responsible for Tulsi's actions.)

Your hate wasn't justified then, nor is it now.

Do try to let it go. It's for your own good. Maybe for the good of us all.

Whatever. Good day, now.

[JI7]

120. Maybe Bernie should stop the hate

especially when he can't even criticize his own MAGA supporters like Tulsi Gabbard.

[Intractable]

121. To suggest that Bernie has MAGA supporters is just plain friggin stupid.

Good luck with that.

Better keep looking over your shoulder. Bernie's gonna get you.

[JI7]

123. Tulsi Gabbard

[Intractable]

126. Repeating it over and over again doesn't make your point of view any more valid.

I'll explain it slowly. Tulsi was a supporter of Bernie's eight years ago. That's 2016.

It is now 2024. Tulsi is a known Putin asset and has been for years.

Bernie and Tulsi have had nothing to do with each other for years.

Tulsi is a problem among many others.

Bernie is not responsible for speaking out about any particular problem in current politics, any more so than any other Democratic figure.

There are so many battles to fight. Wise politicians choose their battles wisely.

This OP was about Bernie seeking to limit credit card interest to 10%. (Sounds good, but I doubt it will go anywhere.)

Sorry that Bernie isn't living up to your expectations. If you are serious, you should write him a letter about your particular concerns instead of trolling me about them.

To me, you sound angry, but certainly not serious.

[JI7]

127. But he felt the need to defend Tulsi Gabbard

when Hillary called her out in 2020.

[Intractable]

128. Wow. You don't stop! You live in the past.

Instead of giving it to me piecemeal, please detail all the problems you have with Bernie.

I want it organized into a single post!

List them now as bulleted items, or better yet, just get on with your day.

[JI7]

130. Tulsi Gabbard joining Trump is happening right now

it's not the past. So why won't he comment on it ?

[Intractable]

131. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Some people say that hate can be used constructively.

May you do something productive with yours. So far, no go.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

132. How would someone who has only been here since July know what someone posted about Bernie 8 years ago?

[sheshe2]

146. Bingo.

[Intractable]

148. Amazing isn't it? Blows yours mind, huh?

You ever heard of Occam's razor? Figure it out!

[sheshe2]

147. Is JPR out of business?

[Cha]

151. Yes he did.. and Now Gabbard is in

the Sick Fuck's Cabinet and Rogin endorsed TSK.

Fascist Fucks .

[Cha]

150. Those Stein voters hated Hillary So

Much they believed the GD LIES the RF Stein told them in the Swing States, that Hillary and TSF were the same.

Sarandon Ooozed out the Hate with her Filthy LIES that Hillary was worse than the Sick Fuck.

why would Sanders be able to convince them to vote for Hillary when the Hate was so Embedded?

Hillary wrote a book on it and she was Correct.

[Intractable]

153. The ones who eventually voted for Stein very clearly stated up front to the Democratic party that they would not

vote for Hillary.

They didn't want a president who gave $250,000 speeches at Goldman Sachs or be proud to be on stage with Henry Kissinger.

So, it was no surprise that they didn't actually vote for Hillary.

So, what is your point?

I voted for her because it was a simple choice between her and Trump. For others, the decision was not so simple.

My own mother voted for Trump in 2016. She said she wanted to shake things up. I said, "But, you are a liberal. How could you vote for him?"

[Cha]

156. OH So bad.. they wanted ASSHOLE Fuck

trump. Yeah, I can see where the HATE came from.

Fuck the GD 3rd party voters that brought Fascism into the WH And helped Start this whole Takeover by Putin's Puppets.

[Intractable]

157. Oh, yes. Let's just pin the blame on that narrow group of voters who went for Stein.

It's all their fault. No need to examine any further complexities.

[Cha]

161. I just DID. Putin Puppet Stein's GD LIES.. and

they Got SUCKERED.

Link to tweet

Hate & Lies Lost our Democracy.. From Both Ends.

[Intractable]

162. And you think those Stein votes would go to Kamala?

I don't. I think Stein voters are just people fed-up with the two-party system. They'll stay home.

It is absolutely the case that Stein is a Putin puppet, but those voters don't know that. We tried to tell them, but the rampant social media propaganda told them otherwise.

[SnoopDog]

25. Sanders produced Biden's major bills that got passed

With Biden’s ability to get Congress to pass legislation and Sander’s ‘for the people’ legislation, Biden is by far one of the best presidents we have ever had.

It was Sanders’ committees that produced the legislation. It’s the populist agenda.

Trump used the populist platform in 2016 and ‘won’.

So say what you want about Senator Sanders, but he knows what most Americans want.

And really, you expect Sanders to try to get repubs to do the right thing, when it’s just as difficult to get Democrats to do the right thing?

[sheshe2]

32. What!? "It's... difficult to get democrats to do the right thing?"

And really, you expect Sanders to try to get repubs to do the right thing, when it’s just as difficult to get Democrats to do the right thing?

https://joebiden.com/accomplishments/

THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN
Just six weeks into his presidency, Joe Biden signed the American Rescue Plan to jumpstart our economy and change the course of the pandemic. The American Rescue Plan funded our national vaccination campaign and helped safely reopen America’s schools.
THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW
President Biden worked across the aisle to deliver what decades of presidents promised and failed to do: rebuild our nation’s roads and bridges, upgrade our public transit, clean up pollution, and provide high-speed internet to every American.
Joe Biden giving speech
CONFIRMATION OF JUSTICE KETANJI BROWN JACKSON
President Biden appointed Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, the first Black woman to ever serve on the Supreme Court. She is also the first public defender to serve on our nation’s highest court.
THE BIPARTISAN SAFER COMMUNITIES ACT
The Bipartisan Safer Communities Act is the most significant gun violence prevention legislation in 30 years. It will help keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people, narrow the “boyfriend loophole,” and expand mental health and safety services in schools.
THE CHIPS AND SCIENCE ACT
The CHIPS Act will bring back manufacturing from overseas and create good-paying union jobs here at home. Since President Biden signed it into law, companies have already announced almost $300 billion in new American manufacturing investments.
EXPANDING HEALTH CARE FOR VETERANS THROUGH THE PACT ACT
President Biden signed into law the most significant expansion of benefits and services for toxic-exposed veterans in more than 30 years.
SIGNED MARRIAGE EQUALITY INTO LAW
President Biden signed the Respect for Marriage Act to enshrine marriage equality for same-sex and interracial couples into federal law.
President Joe Biden smiling
THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT
President Biden signed landmark legislation to bring down costs for families, lower prescription drug prices, and make historic investments in American clean energy jobs and manufacturing. Every single Republican in Congress voted against it.
CHANGING OUR FAILED APPROACH ON MARIJUANA
President Biden pardoned all prior federal offenses of simple marijuana possession, removing a burden to employment, housing, and educational opportunities for thousands of Americans
PROTECTING REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS
In the wake of the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade and strip a constitutional right from the American people, President Biden issued executive orders to preserve access to reproductive care and protect the right to travel across state lines to receive care.
HISTORIC CLIMATE ACTION
President Biden rejoined the Paris Climate Accords on his first day in office. He is delivering on the most aggressive climate agenda in American history through historic investments in clean energy.
RALLYING THE WORLD IN SUPPORT OF UKRAINE
Since the start of Vladimir Putin’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, President Biden has rallied the world to stand with Ukraine, defend democracy, and stand up to autocracy.
PROTECTING THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT
President Biden has worked to protect and strengthen the Affordable Care Act. Now, millions of Americans are saving $800 per year on their health insurance and 4-in-5 Americans can find coverage for $10 a month or less through the ACA.
CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM
President Biden signed a landmark executive order to promote safe and accountable policing, ban chokeholds, restrict no-knock entries by police, create a national police accountability database, and prohibit the transfer of military equipment to local police departments.
STUDENT DEBT RELIEF
President Biden has approved the cancellation of billions in student loan debt for millions of Americans, as well as the largest increase in Pell Grants in over a decade.

[yardwork]

35. Which bills did Sanders produce?

Please cite them, and where Sanders chaired the committees?

And, even if that's true, then why is he complaining about Democrats now?

[SnoopDog]

41. I'm guessing that...

If Sanders is complaining, I’m guessing it’s because the Democrats lost the presidency, the Senate, and the House. And it is the Democratic Party Leadership responsibility to win elections. Right?

[yardwork]

44. That lets me out, then.

I'm not the leader of anything, much less the DNC. Sounds like an inside the beltway tiff.

[Cha]

155. It was a False Accusation.. Thats Why

Dems are so Pissed.

He Attacked Hard Woking Dems When they Lost.. Kicking them when they're Dwon Over Something that is not even true.

I would have nothing to say about him if he didn't attack My Democrati Party.

[Scrivener7]

40. Jesus. This is just bonkers.

[flamingdem]

28. Bernie pushed through the $15 minimum wage at Amazon

At the time it was huuuge

[yaesu]

36. Progressives like Bernie and AOC were pointing the party in the right direction but the problem is

idiot voters pushed the party in another direction, off the cliff. No amount of backseat driving can fix stupid in this fucked up soon to be firmly in the shithole country.

[Keepthesoulalive]

39. Some of the interesting stuff he's accomplished

Joe Rogan, Killer Mike, Nina Turner and ran against Hillary and made the democratic convention a shit show. He doesn’t have a problem with people trying to destroy our democracy but the democrats are never pure enough.

[nini]

45. Because he can't get donations from them

He's appealing to his base and trying to damage the one party with the best chance to get anything done these days. I used to love him but he's all about himself ultimately.

[ThePartyThatListens]

46. I'm not understanding the logic of the OP

Republicans didn't just suffer a MASSIVE loss in an election, the likes not seen since Reagan.

Number 2, Republicans won't listen.

Bernie is an Independent, but he caucuses w/the Democrats.

Note: Bernie is not your enemy.

[Intractable]

74. You are new here. So, you don't know of the long-standing Bernie hate on DU.

It's something that just keeps popping up. It goes away. It comes back.

Even us, the supposed enlightened ones, need to point fingers.

[ThePartyThatListens]

77. Frankly, I could sense it.

The OP drips of it.

And I've seen it in other precincts on the Internet.

That's for the heads up though.

[SidDithers]

48. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose...nt

Edit: DU doesn't like accented characters

Sid

[jaxexpat]

106. What? All Americans have accents! It's a symbol of......their.......uh......oh, you mean the high commas*.....okay.....

never mind.

* high commas, sometimes spelled: Haiku is a type of short form poetry that originated in Japan and can be traced back from the influence of traditional Chinese poetry. Traditional Japanese haiku consist of three phrases composed of 17 morae (called on in Japanese) in a 5, 7, 5 pattern;[1] that include a kireji, or "cutting word";[2] and a kigo, or seasonal reference. However, haiku by classical Japanese poets, such as Matsuo Bashō, also deviate from the 17-on pattern and sometimes do not contain a kireji. Similar poems that do not adhere to these rules are generally classified as senryū.[3]

[MineralMan]

142. French is perfectly legible without the accented characters.

"Meme" still means the same, with or without the circumflex. Still, I wish we could use those characters in thread titles.

I have a small idea of why they were barred after the 2016 election day massacre. I'm not sure, though. There was a reason.

[Blue_Tires]

49. Because all he knows how to do is punch down

That's why whenever there's a big setback for Dems, he's the FIRST person the cable news tracks down for an interview...

[Mike Nelson]

51. Well...

... as far as legislation? I see your point... he's worked on a lot of stuff that never got anywhere. I think his work, while looking effortless, may have influenced others to "move left" or more progressive? An "influencer" then? He did help Hillary win the vote in 2020, I think, by making her look more moderate. I do wish Bernie would have remained a Democrat - not just to run for President - and formed more partnerships there.

[niyad]

96. Hillary ran in 2016, not 2020.

[Mike Nelson]

97. Ah yes...

... that's what I meant. Thank you!

[Hekate]

52. Sadly, Bernie is a scold, & the people he scolds are Democrats because we try to live up to our ideals & come short

The MAGAGOP is beyond redemption because they are on some other planet entirely and don’t give a damn what anyone else thinks.

So that just leaves us, the Democrats, who fail to live up to his expectations.

[sakabatou]

55. Why would repukes listen to Bernie at all?

[Keepthesoulalive]

61. If you are speaking the truth

You want everyone to hear your message and the republicans need to hear it more than anyone.
When he is on the news shows , he should be sounding the alarm about the danger to our country .
That’s where the oligarchs are stealing everything that’s not nailed down. Instead he demeans the people who are trying to save the world from trump.

[sakabatou]

62. It falls on deaf ears

Most repukes are for themselves (power, money, etc).

[Keepthesoulalive]

66. He still needs to tell the truth

To be authentic. If he believes in what he is saying tell the world including the republicans. You don’t preach to the choir, you spread the gospel of economic socialism to the world. Democrats have busted their asses to fix this country and the republicans tear it down every time so go tell the people about the demons that are destroying the world.

[sakabatou]

85. Tell me, why should he play chess against pigeons?

[Keepthesoulalive]

92. He is criticizing the people who are trying to help.

Which is strange, he is not criticizing the people who are destroying this country. He needs to put forth thoughtful bills and fight like hell to get them passed . Otherwise he’s just making noise and crapping on the democrats checkerboard.

[H2O Man]

64. Not.

[Hassler]

68. The problem with Bernie's "advice"

Is that the most loyally Democratic voters are AA women, then AA men, Latina voters. Only among white working class is there a strong lean to Repugs.

[Asa13]

69. This election is saying different

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Trump picked up alot of minority voters and the democratic party should be figuring out why. Because if this trend continues of minority voters abandoning our party it becomes irrelevant

[JustAnotherGen]

99. That assumes

That:
1. We'll be alive in the numbers we are today in the years to come

And

2. They are going to continue to allow black people to vote.

Point blank - take black people in particular out of the equation. #92%blackwomen

[Asa13]

71. Because they dont care

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Bernie has no influence on republicans his influence is in our party and like it or not there was a message sent in this election. The democrats shouldn't be sticking their head in the sand they should be figuring out what went wrong and Sanders tends to bring issues to the table the democratic party has had an issue addressing like the working class isn't feeling this good economy

[sheshe2]

159. Really, Asa?

You said:

The democrats shouldn't be sticking their head in the sand
they should be figuring out what went wrong and Sanders tends to bring issues to the table the democratic party has had an issue addressing like the working class isn't feeling this good economy.

..............................................

The Biden Admin did this, not Sanders.

8 Ways the Biden Administration Is Improving the Lives of Service Workers
The Biden administration is raising pay, building power, and improving living standards for service workers across the economy—including fast-food cooks, call center workers, teachers, home care workers, and federal employees.
The Biden administration has received ongoing attention for its actions to improve the lives of blue collar workers—from walking the picket line with striking autoworkers to ensuring that its signature investments in American industry create good jobs. Pundits and the press often point to actions to expand and raise standards in the construction and manufacturing sectors as central to the Biden administration’s economic agenda. Yet the administration has also taken numerous steps to boost the earnings and wealth of service sector workers, empower them to come together in unions, and hold accountable corporations that violate their rights.

Raising standards in the service sector affects workers across the economy—from baristas and call center workers to teachers and federal employees—and is essential to a strong middle class. Today, working-class Americans, defined as those without a four-year college degree, are primarily employed in service sector jobs. And research shows that policies to boost wages and benefits for service sector workers help narrow racial pay gaps, reduce turnover and support a well-qualified workforce.
1. Advocating for service workers on the picket line
During last summer’s wave of worker strikes and organizing actions, the Biden administration met with worker organizers from Starbucks, video game producer Sega, and other unions at the White House to celebrate workers’ organizing successes. According to White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre, President Joe Biden expressed his “belief that worker power is essential to growing the economy from the middle out and bottom up.” In addition, the Biden administration has voiced support for labor actions by Hollywood actors and writers, as well as Amazon warehouse worker organizing. Furthermore, Biden administration appointees to the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB)—the independent agency that oversees union elections and enforces protections for private sector workers organizing unions and collectively bargaining—have issued several complaints and rulings against well-known companies such as Starbucks to remedy illegal activities, including retaliatory firings, withholding increases to wages and benefits, and closing stores.

MORE!
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/8-ways-the-biden-administration-is-improving-the-lives-of-service-workers/

Lots more for you to read here, Asa.

[mountain grammy]

72. Bernie a fraud?

Sorry you are so wrong and that’s exactly why we lost, because of this twisted point of view.

[Intractable]

76. +1 Bernie is an ally and that's why people listen to him.

[alarimer]

75. Because they won.

It's pretty fucking stupid that David Axelrod has floated RAHM FUCKING EMMANUEL as DNC chair, which is the exact opposite thing they need to do.

They need to be fewer ties to corporate shitheads and not more. Yes to unions and pro-worker stuff and less corporate glad-handing. More corporate bashing and less sucking up.

I like Bernie Sanders. I FUCKING HATE people like David Axelrod and Emmanuel.

The irrational hatred of Bernie Sanders on this board is just too much.

[mountain grammy]

160. Agree it's irrational and sickening

Over the top.. Visceral hatred. He doesn’t deserve that. Years ago one of my posts was hidden for bashing Democrats. What I posted was a video of Joe Manchin on a Sunday morning talk show. Well I guess he was still a Democrat back then so I don’t remember if he was bashing himself or other Dems but he was usually supported here and he fucking killed the child tax credit that Bernie helped write many years ago. . :

[ColinC]

78. Because he knows they won't listen

[elleng]

79. He's been doing it for years,

and neither Dems or Repugs have listened. As I recall, he gave Hillary a run for the money in 2016. H. Clinton 16,917,853[a][1] B Sanders13,210,550

[Progressive dog]

81. With MA GA going to run the government

I am not going to attack Bernie. At least he isn't and never will be MAGA.

[Skittles]

82. I honestly do not give one FUCK what he says

seriously

[SnoopDog]

86. Considering that the Democratic Party Leadership lost this election...

Maybe listening to those who want Democrats and America to succeed is a good idea.

[Bread and Circuses]

89. Bernie is always a shite show

He’s done shite in the senate. Every four years he grandstands just like Jill Stein.

He needs to go away

[Uncle Joe]

90. What makes you think that he isn't? Bernie speaks to everyone about the issues and policies that are critical

to our nation, ie: healthcare, the need for strong unions, poverty, exorbitant student debt, climate change, etc. etc. be they Democrat, Republican or Independent.

I believe that Bernie believes that the Democratic Party as the party of the people is more likely to listen, but today with national, even global domination by American and International oligarchs over all branches of our government combined with Citizens United, and even that becomes a challenge.

That's one reason as to why he is always talking about dysfunctional wealth disparity ie: citing the 3 individuals who own more wealth than the bottom half of our nation, that didn't occur overnight, it happened over the past half century.

It was long term polices that created this situation and policies are the only thing that can change it, not the on going 24/7 drama of soap opera and horse race coverage by the corporate media during Presidential elections, that's just distraction.

To that end, issues and policies have to be addressed directly, you can't pussy foot around them with political bullshit, and Bernie stays on message better than any political leader that I've seen during my lifetime.

[JI7]

98. Has Bernie Sanders Said anything about Tulsi Gabbard

she was a huge part of his campaign in 2016.

[Ursus Rex]

101. I think he got a couple post offices named.

But I don’t think he’s sponsored a ton of really significant legislation.

[Oopsie Daisy]

102. Exactly! Great question! Why, indeed?

It's time to criticize and shit-on the Republicans, and call-out what THEY are "doing wrong" and how THEY need to improve. Being a thorn in their side and a sharp pebble in their shoe is what's called-for now.

[Autumn]

122. What are the other 46 Democratic Senators supposed to be telling Republicans?

Technically he's not a Democrat!!!: rofl:

He's an Independent who caucuses with the Democrats. Often more than a few Dems do. He worked with our President Biden on a few things.

[Happy Hoosier]

124. Because, as always, it's easier to demand action than to do it.

Bernie pretty much always demands entirelt unrealistic action. His plan is always that the "American People will rise up." That's NOT a plan. But as the shit rises to eye level, he can fling some of it a Democrats, even though he has accomplished very little during his career EXCEPT hurl insults at Democrats and weaken the party.

[Omnipresent]

129. That should be a question for Senator Sanders to answer.

[Dumpy]

133. He is not a democrat

He is clearly stated independent.

[msfiddlestix]

134. Why ask anyone here? Why not ask him directly? He's the only that can provide that explanation.

[LizBeth]

135. I have only seen him tell Democratic women what to do.

[Hotler]

138. Because their side gave up gentlemanly politics, play nice, looking political and worrying about our feelings.

We have yet to try that method. When a bully punches you in the mouth it's okay to punch back, or in their case, a dose of their own.

[MineralMan]

143. Because it would be even less effective than telling the Democrats.

Bernie's tired. Bernie needs to take some rest.

[Kid Berwyn]

154. Bernie stood up to Trump.

Sanders Statement on Trump ‘Treason’ Comment

February 6, 2018

WASHINGTON, Feb. 6 – Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) issued the following statement Tuesday after President Donald Trump accused members of Congress who did not clap during his State of the Union address of being un-American and treasonous:

“The great political issue now facing our country is not Democrat vs. Republican or progressive vs. conservative. It’s much deeper than that. It’s about democracy vs. authoritarianism.

“Today we have a president who is undermining the first amendment by consistently referring to media criticism as ‘fake news.’ He has questioned the authority of an independent judiciary. He has tried to make it harder for people to vote by wildly exaggerating the extent of voter fraud. He has viciously attacked those in law enforcement who have investigated him. And yesterday he suggested that members of Congress who don’t mindlessly stand and applaud his every word are guilty of ‘treason.’

“Our job now is to remind Trump and his allies what democracy is all about. By our grassroots activism we will defend President Lincoln’s words at Gettysburg when he stated ‘that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.’ Stand up. Fight back. Get involved.

Source: https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/sanders-statement-on-trump-treason-comment/

PS: And I remember a Senator wondering if Trump liked him. — KB

[kerry-is-my-prez]

158. He was a big help on getting Trump elected the first time.

By staying in a race he couldn’t win, heaping hate on Hillary, and encouraging his Bernie Bros to do damage to her campaign. I used to love, love, love Bernie until he screwed over Hillary. At least he didn’t run this time around. It also pisses me off that he abandoned the Dem Party when we need every person we can get in the Senate. What a waste….

[kansasobama]

163. For all the good things so far, Bernie has lost it

Constant criticism about Dems not appealing to the working class shows how ancient he is. He needs to come to grips that his non college educated working class are the cult MAGA. This is not because Biden and Dems have not done everything for this class. On the other hand, the so called college educated elite millionaires he constantly gripes about have become more democratic than ever. These Dems do not want tax cuts for the rich. They are concerned about deficits.

Dems have to make an effort to find a language to talk about working class not voting against their interests. Why don't Bernie do that more? Does he have an organization to focus solely on that?