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163. Steven Spoonamore on The Thom Hartmann Program Live (11/18/2024) - 02:16:30 - 02:28:45
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 07:31 AM
Nov 19

Steven Spoonamore on The Thom Hartmann Program Live (11/18/2024) - 02:16:30 - 02:28:45

The Steven Spoonamore interview starts at approx. 02:16:30 to 02:28:45. [link:https://www.youtube.com/live/5s4iCxtf_Js

https://www.youtube.com/@thomhartmann/videos - https://www.thomhartmann.com/

Stephen Spoonamore - Duty to Warn Letter - to VP Harris - Re: Election 2024 - Nov 15, 2024 - https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941

https://freespeechforpeople.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/letter-to-vp-harris-111324.pdf
November 15, 2024
Honorable VP Kamala Harris
The White House
Office of the Vice President
1600 Pennsylvania Ave
Washington DC 20500
Dear Madam Vice President.
This is my second Duty to Warn Letter regarding hacking of the 2024 Presidential Election. The first letter on November 7 was directed to Commonwealth of Pennsylvania Officials. Both warnings are made per DNI Clapper’s 2015 directive to all agencies and contractors associated with intelligence and financial agency technologies to warn of suspicions of hacking.
Professionally I have worked as the CEO or CTO at seven high technology firms including two which specialized in hacking and counter-hacking operations. My clients have included numerous governments DoD, DHS, Dept. of State, F100 Financials and F500 Industrials.
I am a lifelong Republican who has long placed service and participatory democracy over party. In government, I have twice been invited to SoCom to give lectures on electronic warfare and techniques to find terrorist money laundering and gave a keynote speech of the National Counterintel Summit on this same topic. I served as an after-action reviewer of communications and data failures on 9/11 under the direction of Jim Woolsey and FDNY Commissioner Scopetta, and later co-wrote multiple hacking risk analysis of Smart Grid technologies for the Obama administration.
You should reverse your concession, call for both a full investigation of criminal activity and demand hand recounts in all seven swing states.
In my professional view there are multiple and extremely clear indications the Presidential vote was willfully compromised.
I wholly agree with the public letter of Duncan Buell, et. al. of Nov. 13th stating they believe there is a possibility of hacking and calling for hand-recounts.
https://freespeechforpeople.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/letter-to-vp-harris-111324.pdf
This letter’s clear call to action is commendable, but its cautious tone may belie the severity of what I believe has happened. In my view it is a near certainty the results have been changed at a scale which reversed the US Presidential Election. They imply there is a chance a hand-recount will show you won more votes. I am stating a hand recount will most likely show you did win. Both letters call on you to act.
In my view, a capable and skilled series of exploits, electronic tools and hacks were used to change the Presidential vote in all seven swing states. These activities have reversed the outcomes in at least Arizona, Michigan, North Carolina, and Wisconsin. I will lay out the basics of the attack, starting with unusual elements within the results. I will then outline two processes which could have been followed to insert these false results into the system. Finally I will outline how I would recommend investigating.
Unusual elements within the results.
The results of the attack are improbable in the extreme and well tailored to the sole benefit of your opponent.
Approximately 600,000 votes are for Donald Trump but with no down ballot choices. These are either inserted “bullet ballots” for the Presidential race or manipulated data fields. They are surgically added to totals in limited jurisdictions and within only the seven swing States. This historically unprecedented set of numbers found in the 2024 swing states is absent in every other state. In AZ, MI, NC and WI the effect of these drop-off votes reverses the voters' will and even more improbably always pushes the winning margin beyond the mandatory recount numbers. It is a result too perfect for belief. It is a bespoke and programmed outcome. In other states including PA and NV, removing these strange and bespoke added votes, it appears Donald Trump may have won the cast votes but within a margin which would force recounts. The inserted votes raise his totals, to avoid any scrutiny during mandatory recount results which would have slowed his claim on the Presidency. In GA and FL the same pattern exists with unclear impact on the results.
This attack is not technically difficult. It is modest in scale. It would require:
Modest and common computer programming skills.
Access to 10-100 tabulators or to the handful of facilities programming them in advance.
A credible database of voter IDs of non-voters around which to create false ballots.
Perhaps as few as 1, but more likely 3-5 human program managers.
Access to eBollBook Data during the election to determine who had not voted.
(Possibly) Human access to some tabulators during counting.
If I was asked to lead this hack, I would expect to have a core team of 6-10 people, and operating costs under $10M with a timeline of 3-12 months.
The tell: A historically absurd number of Trump-only bullet ballots or undervote ballots.
There are always a handful of voters who cast a vote in one race which they care about, and do not make other selections on the ballot. These are called bullet ballots. In Presidential Races since 1980, these bullet ballots rarely account for more than 1% of the total votes including in Mr. Trump’s winning 2016 election and losing 2020 election, and when they do it warrants further investigation. In 2024 in the 43 non-swing states, bullet ballots make up a nominal >1%. In the seven swing states the numbers are so high to be unbelievable, unprecedented and demanding of further investigation. Here is analysis from totals as of late Nov. 12th
Here are the unprecedented results of drop-offs in the two western swing states:
AZ - 123K+ 7.2%+ of Trump’s total vote. Enough to reverse the outcome.
NV - 43K+ 5.5%+ of Trump’s total vote. Enough to exceed recount threshold.
It is my belief these two states have illegally added votes.
For comparison, examine Trump’s 2024 results in three states which border AZ and NV. They have equally passionate Trump supporters, but have the normal levels of drop off or bullet ballots.
ID

About Those Bullet Ballots [View all] gab13by13 Nov 18 OP
While I would be fine with a hand count audit, your last sentence is incorrect. bearsfootball516 Nov 18 #1
Yesterday NJCher Nov 18 #2
Not down ballots, you mean bullet ballots. gab13by13 Nov 18 #4
yes NJCher Nov 18 #7
The heck is a bullet ballot? onetexan Nov 19 #162
A bullet ballot is when the voter votes in only one election and not the rest of the ballot. TomSlick Nov 19 #182
Thanks! onetexan Nov 20 #203
didn't he have those numbers in his duty to warn letter? Native Nov 18 #28
I also heard about ballots that voted for Trump and then straight Dems. Weird. OMGWTF Nov 18 #33
Yes. Very improbable. Beck23 Nov 19 #178
7% of a state's total is a lot more than 2. gab13by13 Nov 18 #5
Yes it is bearsfootball516 Nov 18 #8
I think what I read was it only happened at that high percentage in swing states Loupe Garoue Nov 18 #15
Right - it is the statistical anomaly that is raising questions. RandomNumbers Nov 18 #128
Except it didn't happen at a higher percentage in swing states. onenote Nov 19 #160
I agree. And he answered his own question. Are people that stupid? Ray Bruns Nov 18 #17
It happens a LOT, it is called undervoting. yellowdogintexas Nov 18 #54
But not at a 5% and 7% rate. Beck23 Nov 19 #179
Especially Trumpers JMCKUSICK Nov 18 #87
Of course they exist. That's not the point. soldierant Nov 18 #118
Only that's all BS soandso Nov 18 #120
What is your background with software manipulation resulting in data errors? Forget it...... Hope22 Nov 18 #124
I'm not into arguing soandso Nov 18 #131
I listened to this on Thom's show. He said Kamala was the only one who could request a recount rainy Nov 18 #3
Provide evidence of claims for your question Sympthsical Nov 18 #6
These claims are made based on available statistics Loupe Garoue Nov 18 #16
What available statistics? Wiz Imp Nov 18 #102
how about you show your work NJCher Nov 18 #19
A hand recount should be welcomed by all. rubbersole Nov 18 #20
⬆⬆⬆THIS⬆⬆⬆ Think. Again. Nov 18 #48
I agree JoeBydun Nov 18 #64
I agree. Do the hand count!!! bikes and bunnies Nov 18 #90
This post should be a thread of its own. Fiendish Thingy Nov 18 #34
It is either true or it is not true Cirsium Nov 18 #37
It's not true. onenote Nov 18 #70
Thanks Cirsium Nov 18 #108
It is manipulation Zeitghost Nov 18 #121
Desperation. TheKentuckian Nov 18 #143
Agreed Cirsium Nov 18 #144
Stephen Spoonamore has been doing this for awhile. nbsmom Nov 18 #158
It's not true SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #91
Very good nt Cirsium Nov 18 #130
How about providing the data to show that it is true? Wiz Imp Nov 18 #103
Sure Cirsium Nov 18 #109
The difference keepthemhonestO Nov 18 #46
The Governor of North Carolina was term limited. yellowdogintexas Nov 18 #63
My bad, I was thinking that was keepthemhonestO Nov 18 #134
NC governor was not getting "ousted" unc70 Nov 18 #67
The governor in North Carolina was not unpopular and the repub opponent was a all out disaster onenote Nov 18 #111
I keep hearing about irregularities SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #112
You keepthemhonestO Nov 18 #135
So the polls being accurate is proof of the conspiracy? EdmondDantes_ Nov 19 #197
Kinda funny you expect a poster on the web to " show your work " but the government doesn't have to questionseverything Nov 18 #50
At this point, I'd like the guy the poster is repeating to show his work Sympthsical Nov 18 #58
I actually think the letter signed by buell and experts is more convincing questionseverything Nov 18 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Nov 18 #104
I showed my work SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #113
The government(s) Zeitghost Nov 18 #122
Numbers were posted, true but they were not counted by human beings questionseverything Nov 18 #125
We oversea them through State and Local Officials Zeitghost Nov 18 #133
To be clear my comments are not about the bullet ballot claim at all questionseverything Nov 18 #142
Sign up to be a poll worker then EdmondDantes_ Nov 19 #199
The work poll workers do is important but they can't oversee computer software questionseverything Nov 19 #200
We have laws in place for that. DiamondShark Nov 19 #202
In 2020 the Maga raised hell over "irregularities" and "anomalies" Walleye Nov 18 #9
The big difference is they hand counted Georgia questionseverything Nov 18 #57
Correct. They went with zero evidence and turned the country and election process on its head. hadEnuf Nov 18 #60
I see evidence and I have questions proud patriot Nov 18 #10
You are not nuts, this should be a hand count because it is so close and Bluethroughu Nov 18 #11
But it isn't actually that close in any of the states and recounts cost millions of dollars. MichMan Nov 19 #164
I think my DEMOCRACY is worth more than the price of a recount. Bluethroughu Nov 19 #176
The numbers don't support what you are claiming MichMan Nov 19 #186
Asking serious questions is good malaise Nov 18 #12
You are grieving, not dumb Tweedy Nov 18 #13
The solution is easy....count the paper ballots. Hope22 Nov 18 #29
Have you withdrawn $45,000 from your retirement account and contributed towards a recount? MichMan Nov 18 #38
They keepthemhonestO Nov 18 #49
The money is gone. The ballots were counted. Harris lost. tritsofme Nov 18 #55
They keepthemhonestO Nov 18 #62
In states largely run by Democrats...Sometimes an election just doesn't turn out like you hope. tritsofme Nov 18 #78
Where did they recount. Hope22 Nov 18 #80
None of the races are close enough. They don't just do them for fun. tritsofme Nov 18 #86
Yep SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #114
No but I did get 10 texts a day along with dozens of calls a day to send money to VP Harris over the last six months or Hope22 Nov 18 #77
The bullet ballots exist Tweedy Nov 18 #123
How is it being determined how many "bullet ballots" were cast. This still sounds like bullshit. onenote Nov 18 #14
There you go, ruining a perfectly good CT with facts and logic... Fiendish Thingy Nov 18 #32
I know. I had the same problem in 2020 when the trumpers were making unsubstantiated claims. onenote Nov 18 #43
I have my own theory: Fiendish Thingy Nov 18 #51
Here's what I don't understand. Frank D. Lincoln Nov 18 #119
The implicit claim is that the number of split-ticket ballots must 0. Igel Nov 18 #149
Not zero Loupe Garoue Nov 18 #157
hum.. what about all the folks who didn't vote for President? DooverBeliever Nov 19 #169
The claim is that there were 350,000 bullet votes for Trump in NC onenote Nov 19 #170
I missed that. DooverBeliever Nov 19 #171
Deleted questionseverything Nov 19 #192
So, where did those Arizona and Nevada percentage numbers come from? MineralMan Nov 18 #18
From the publicly available Arizona and Nevada websites. onenote Nov 18 #53
Yes. I saw your earlier post. MineralMan Nov 18 #68
Thanks for the clarification. It would be nice to hear from those accepting Sponamore's claims. onenote Nov 18 #71
I get 2.2% for Arizona Sympthsical Nov 18 #73
Here's how I got my result. If my math is off, show me how and I'll correct it. onenote Nov 18 #79
You're right, I'm wrong Sympthsical Nov 18 #83
Yep. And it's not as if you have to some super genius to do so. onenote Nov 18 #92
I don't think it's quite that simple... Rikki Tikki Tumbo Nov 19 #184
He uses the term "undervote" to mean the same thing as a bullet ballot onenote Nov 19 #188
States already compare paper ballot counts SickOfTheOnePct Nov 19 #189
And that's fine. But don't make up a bogus reason for doing it onenote Nov 19 #196
Oh, I agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct Nov 19 #198
In post #85 SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #88
I can't replicate any of it Sympthsical Nov 18 #93
It can't be replicated SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #96
That's a good question. Why don't they show us the numbers so we know they are real? Wiz Imp Nov 18 #106
That's not what Occam's Razor says SCantiGOP Nov 18 #21
Stupid. Straw Man Nov 18 #22
Many voters vote only part of the ballot. MineralMan Nov 18 #26
Did the guest mention SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #23
If there were any good sources for those numbers, MineralMan Nov 18 #24
Looking at actual numbers tells a different story SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #85
Deleted questionseverything Nov 19 #185
I have 28,438 for the "Other" category SickOfTheOnePct Nov 19 #187
Deleted questionseverything Nov 19 #190
Like I said SickOfTheOnePct Nov 19 #193
I found my mistake and deleted questionseverything Nov 19 #194
If you were adding the first row SickOfTheOnePct Nov 19 #195
Deleted questionseverything Nov 19 #191
Keep posting, gab! Kid Berwyn Nov 18 #25
It feels like a coup because we lost HereForTheParty Nov 18 #41
No, it's because the GOP steals elections. Kid Berwyn Nov 18 #59
I'm sure Biden & Kamala are aware of the Bullet Ballots numbers KS Toronado Nov 18 #27
You have misquoted Mr. Occam: Fiendish Thingy Nov 18 #30
Look gab, I 100% wish what you, and these others are sayin is true. The simple fact is all we want here is PROOF bluestarone Nov 18 #31
No Comparison Speaks2 Nov 18 #35
What supports this hypothesis that there was cheating. HereForTheParty Nov 18 #44
I know this stinks keepthemhonestO Nov 18 #36
Good points. Welcome to DU! Doodley Nov 18 #66
Was keepthemhonestO Nov 18 #140
And how smart would it be of these devious hackers to not add votes in races that would help Trump? EdmondDantes_ Nov 18 #39
Hand counts will be coming Viz Nov 18 #40
It's not a hand recount MichMan Nov 18 #116
Yes I agree.... Viz Nov 18 #42
How are they linked to fake ballots? HereForTheParty Nov 18 #132
K&R Think. Again. Nov 18 #45
A friend of mine was a poll watcher in Grand Rapids... Orange Buffoon Nov 18 #47
A pole watcher isn't directly watching how people are voting, right oldmanlynn Nov 18 #56
They are not allowed to encroach on the voter's space. yellowdogintexas Nov 18 #65
I think she came to that conclusion judging by the minimal time they spent Orange Buffoon Nov 18 #84
If Trump and the Republicans did cheat in this way oldmanlynn Nov 18 #52
Agreed. Should be investigated. I remain coninced that no way did trump win every swing state legitimately. brush Nov 18 #69
Why should it raise eyebrows? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #115
It's not that complicated. The battleground states are where the deciding Electoral College votes are. brush Nov 18 #129
A hand count is not unreasonable wryter2000 Nov 18 #72
Who is going to pay for it? MichMan Nov 18 #117
I don't understand what you think this hand count is supposed to do. Dr. Strange Nov 18 #74
Exactly SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #94
Bullet ballots aren't illegal FakeNoose Nov 18 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Nov 18 #76
On your side all the way! ananda Nov 18 #81
the problem with your argument Oliver Bolliver Butt Nov 18 #82
Some numbers soandso Nov 18 #89
I see different numbers on Daily Kos article MadameButterfly Nov 18 #139
I would go with Decision Desk soandso Nov 18 #141
B T W Mr.Bee Nov 18 #95
It's ridiculous SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #97
I brought that up soandso Nov 18 #100
It's because we changed to mail Sympthsical Nov 18 #107
Are the permitted to start processing them prior to election day? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #110
I don't trust anything that MAY be associated with the con man LilElf70 Nov 18 #98
Steven Spoonamore on The Thom Hartmann Program Live (11/18/2024) - 02:16:30 - 02:28:45 ConcernedCitizen1776 Nov 18 #99
Steven Spoonamore on The Thom Hartmann Program Live (11/18/2024) - 02:16:30 - 02:28:45 ConcernedCitizen1776 Nov 19 #163
Data Scientist's Shocking Call for Election Recount Raises Scary Questions! w/ Stephen Spoonamore ConcernedCitizen1776 Nov 19 #168
Thom Hartmann Live - Spoonamore interview - 11/18/2024 ultralite001 Nov 18 #101
In Nevada in 2020, the total votes for House Reps was 96.5% of the votes for President; in 2024, 96.1% muriel_volestrangler Nov 18 #105
Kinda undercut your argument with that last sentence... krkaufman Nov 18 #126
K&R SheltieLover Nov 18 #127
Building computer hardware is an entirely Progressive dog Nov 18 #136
He has the data Beck23 Nov 19 #180
Yup anf I also Progressive dog Nov 19 #183
bullet ballots are bs - they fucking made it too rig to big alright - the biggest rig of all time. Nimble_Idea Nov 18 #137
As an election judge in a county that went 82% trump... in 2020 hurple Nov 18 #138
Critical JR11 Nov 18 #145
Whats the harm of doing a hand recount in the swing states. Dump got his, why can't Kamala have hers? Clouds Passing Nov 18 #146
It costs millions of dollars for recounts is why. Hand recounts are even more expensive MichMan Nov 18 #148
To save our democracy! Like its not worth that!? Clouds Passing Nov 18 #150
You need to call the Harris campaign and tell them you are paying for all of it n/t MichMan Nov 18 #153
Why such hate MichMan? Clouds Passing Nov 18 #154
Because recounts are very expensive and at best only change a few hundred or so votes MichMan Nov 18 #155
Great reason to hate Clouds Passing Nov 18 #156
It is reality, not hate MichMan Nov 19 #165
Informational Warfare JR11 Nov 18 #147
I'm all for a recount ... Jeebo Nov 18 #151
I agree I took a coding class years ago and this computer tabulation stinks kimbutgar Nov 18 #152
Time to apply for a tabulator job. DiamondShark Nov 19 #167
Do we know these numbers are correct? garybeck Nov 19 #159
He has a team of people counting. Beck23 Nov 19 #177
If it sounds like a duck... Chadarius Nov 19 #161
Look at it this way, folks: If there is a whiff of suspicion about the results and we Dems do nothing, what do you think LaMouffette Nov 19 #166
It was dirty end of story. Botany Nov 19 #172
If Kamala lets us down I don't know what to say. sellitman Nov 19 #173
The only way to believe this is normal Beck23 Nov 19 #174
I understand the concern and share it given some of Trump's comments. But I think bullet ballots are easily explained Pacifist Patriot Nov 19 #175
I've built computer hardware too. progressoid Nov 19 #181
Pennsylvania Department of State Begins Risk-Limiting Audit of 2024 General Election ultralite001 Nov 19 #201
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