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In reply to the discussion: If there was cheating in the last election... [View all]MichMan
(13,227 posts)43. Arizona Republicans wanted to hand-count ballots. Then they saw the price tag -- and the errors.
This was just in one county
There were counting errors in 46 of 30,600 races on the ballots, as the team tallying the results of the election made mistakes. According to a report prepared for the Board of Supervisors, some of the observed errors included: bored and tired staffers who stopped watching the process, messy handwriting in tallies, fast talkers, or staffers who heard or said the wrong candidates name.
Each ballot took three minutes to count, Tempert said. At that pace, it would take a group of seven staffers at least 657 eight-hour days to count 105,000 ballots, the number of ballots cast in 2020. Mohave County would need to hire at least 245 people to tally results and have counting take place seven days a week, including holidays, for nearly three weeks. That estimate doesnt include the time needed for reconciling mistakes, or counting write-in ballots, Temperts report added.
Tempert forcefully recommended waiting until Election Day to conduct the hand-count, because he feared results would leak out otherwise. But doing so would leave the county in a time crunch, too: The county would have just 19 days after the election to tally up the ballots, in accordance with state law on canvassing results.
The total cost for the staffing, renting for a large venue for the counting, security cameras, and other associated costs was staggering: $1,108,486.
Each ballot took three minutes to count, Tempert said. At that pace, it would take a group of seven staffers at least 657 eight-hour days to count 105,000 ballots, the number of ballots cast in 2020. Mohave County would need to hire at least 245 people to tally results and have counting take place seven days a week, including holidays, for nearly three weeks. That estimate doesnt include the time needed for reconciling mistakes, or counting write-in ballots, Temperts report added.
Tempert forcefully recommended waiting until Election Day to conduct the hand-count, because he feared results would leak out otherwise. But doing so would leave the county in a time crunch, too: The county would have just 19 days after the election to tally up the ballots, in accordance with state law on canvassing results.
The total cost for the staffing, renting for a large venue for the counting, security cameras, and other associated costs was staggering: $1,108,486.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/arizona-republicans-hand-count-ballots-price-tag-errors-mojave-county-rcna97769
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Absolutely, the allegations in the first letter from the cybersecurity expert group must be carefully investigated also
Think. Again.
Nov 17
#47
Oh, you mean like any allegation of a crime having been committed? Would those be woo's?
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Nov 17
#48
Spoonamore claims to be a republican in the Nov-15-24 letter that is circulating.
DiamondShark
Nov 17
#37
I think vetting the person you are promoting in these posts is the best path forward.
DiamondShark
Nov 17
#79
If I do, will that make all the digitized tabulation machines disappear or something?
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Nov 17
#85
You would learn how we public workers secure our elections against bad actors.
DiamondShark
Nov 17
#86
After 2004 major security laws and procedures were put in place and thousands of voting machines were replaced.
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Nov 17
#30
He doesn't address the question of citizens being able to oversee their own elections
questionseverything
Nov 16
#8
The obvious idea is that using 2 different processes to count the same numbers will expose discrepencies.
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Nov 17
#32
Correct, discrepencies discovered during audits would then prompt full recounts to arrive at true results.
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Nov 17
#58
Except that "non-binding" audits would not necessarily lead to recounts if a candidate doesn't request that...
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Nov 17
#63
Arizona Republicans wanted to hand-count ballots. Then they saw the price tag -- and the errors.
MichMan
Nov 17
#43
Wisconsin is like 30,000 though, that's about 9 vote change per precinct
questionseverything
Nov 17
#23