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In reply to the discussion: 45% of women voted for Trump. Yet, folks here are blaming men for Kamala's loss? [View all]DiamondShark
(1,107 posts)37. What's hard to understand?
As a man, I have often witnessed a handful of men who don't know each other enter a room and bond rather quickly over the most trivial of things - beer, sports, a TV show, video games, etc. And, that's not just true of American culture. In Germany, they have something called a Männergarten. It is quite literally a temporary activity space for men to hang out while their wives or girlfriends go shopping. The woman buys a ticket (good for two beers) for the man and drops him off at the Männergarten and she's good to go. The concept doesn't work unless men who don't even know each other, once left amongst themselves, are willing to get along.
In contrast, among all the women I know, none describe a similar ease of bonding with the women they have come across. Instead, they describe never ending competition over every little personal detail and a tendency to tear each other down. Maybe this willingness on the part of the American female electorate not to have as a default position a willingness to support another person of their own gender had something to do with what happened to Kamala. I don't know. But, it would seem to me that the answer to this question is the most important one to answer if the U.S. is ever to elect a female President.
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45% of women voted for Trump. Yet, folks here are blaming men for Kamala's loss? [View all]
PeaceWave
Nov 15
OP
I took a Rutgers-Eagleton class on Woman & Politics and a solid 45% of women voted paternalistic since 1974.
TheBlackAdder
Nov 15
#12
Thank you for this response. It goes to what I'm getting at. How do we change this pattern?
PeaceWave
Nov 15
#14
Yes, but one that is offset by the larger gender bias men have towards women.
TheBlackAdder
Nov 16
#91
It's misogynistic to point out that fewer women voted for Kamala than men for Trump?
PeaceWave
Nov 15
#6
If by "this person" you are referring to me, I am not "twisting myself in knots" to do anything other than...
PeaceWave
Nov 15
#19
And yet, somehow, the candidate or the campaign team or the party elites and all of their decisions
Seeking Serenity
Nov 15
#8
Come up with some meaningful strategies to do that and I'm right there with you...
Wounded Bear
Nov 15
#15
Sadly, that's what we'll have to do. Thankfully, there are a few of them out there...
Wounded Bear
Nov 16
#92
Trump supporters and his campaign made it very clear that this was a movement against women
Quiet Em
Nov 15
#23
Without discounting the existence of mental abuse that absolutely does exist...
PeaceWave
Nov 15
#28
I don't get how "out of fear" works, they can vote for whoever & tell hubby the voted for the orangutang, right?
EX500rider
Nov 16
#66
Every woman in my extended family is the primary shopper. All voted for Kamala.
PeaceWave
Nov 15
#33
My Mom is an immigrant from Guatemala. Feel free to tell me more about my family.
PeaceWave
Nov 16
#36
Mass deportations and insane tariffs have a zero percent chance of not increasing food prices
TheKentuckian
Nov 16
#69
As we're hauled off to the gulag we'll be seen screaming at each other, "It's your fault!!!"
jalan48
Nov 15
#32
" Instead, they describe never ending competition over every little personal detail and a tendency
Quiet Em
Nov 16
#38
This is what has been related to me by women both in their personal lives and in their corporate jobs.
PeaceWave
Nov 16
#44
Are you suggesting that female rivalry in the workplace isn't a thing? Or just ignoring it.
PeaceWave
Nov 16
#50
Can you believe this shit? Next they'll be saying we're upset because our wombs are moving around.
Scrivener7
Nov 16
#97
Maybe the reasons women vote for Trump and the reasons men do are not the same.
milestogo
Nov 16
#96
Wrong. I'm asking folks to be accountable, rather than simply blame one demographic group.
PeaceWave
Nov 16
#100
Anybody notice that there are a lot threads lately masquerading as "election analysis," but which are just
Scrivener7
Nov 16
#101
" Instead, they describe never ending competition over every little personal detail and a tendency to tear each other do
BlueWaveNeverEnd
Nov 16
#107
As compared to Biden, Harris lost more men, more minorities, younger voters, and low-income voters
Ms. Toad
Nov 17
#117
How can you be content that "women held steady" when the opponent was a rapist?
PeaceWave
Nov 17
#118
I didn't say I was content. I was responding to your assertion that women, not men, are to blame.
Ms. Toad
Nov 18
#124