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Abnredleg

(1,026 posts)
37. Get used to the frustration
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 03:13 PM
Nov 2024

because, if you haven’t noticed, the CT you and you fellow travelers are pushing isn’t gaining traction, either on DU or the real world. This shouldn’t be surprising given that the Harris campaign, the Dem SOS’s of the swing states, the Biden DOJ and the Democratic political establishment have accepted the results as fair.

We went through all of this in 2020, with the same arguments and rhetorical devices, but at least QAnon had some interesting moments such as Jewish Space Lasers and the Four Seasons Landscaping. BlueAnon is a pale imitation, fatally flawed by the fact that no one in the Establishment believes that fraud changed the outcome.

But you keep up the good work. I’m going to concentrate on rebuilding the Democratic Party rather than descend into the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories.

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Trust these people Catbird Nov 2024 #1
K&R Think. Again. Nov 2024 #8
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Here is the text of the letter to VP Harris... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #2
Thanks Loupe Garoue Nov 2024 #3
Thank YOU! This is important stuff... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #4
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Every single state, heck every single precinct Tweedy Nov 2024 #26
As these security experts explain... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #30
In a close election I generally do. Tweedy Nov 2024 #93
Oh yes, we must stay strong on all the other fronts... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #94
There will be audits everywhere Tweedy Nov 2024 #95
Oh, perhaps you didn't read the letter? Think. Again. Nov 2024 #96
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Raises hand... DiamondShark Nov 2024 #97
Wait, you had to make a FOIA request to see audit results??? Think. Again. Nov 2024 #111
I see you didn't read any other posts I made. DiamondShark Nov 2024 #114
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You can FOIA the ballots. DiamondShark Nov 2024 #236
Yes you can but it would be too late to change anything questionseverything Nov 2024 #238
Not my problem. DiamondShark Nov 2024 #240
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Did you read the letter? Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #58
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Chin music what does that mean? AkFemDem Nov 2024 #156
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Oh. why don't you just hit recommend like everyone else? AkFemDem Nov 2024 #161
Originality is a beautiful thing, these days. defacto7 Nov 2024 #184
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You can hit "recommend" and your hit will- AkFemDem Nov 2024 #162
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No, I'm talking about the algorithmic push of a thread- AkFemDem Nov 2024 #165
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Okay so you do value the "recs" AkFemDem Nov 2024 #171
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Chin Music is doing it the way it's always been done and defacto7 Nov 2024 #182
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You do not know that. travelingthrulife Nov 2024 #194
Huh? Tweedy Nov 2024 #232
Thanks Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #54
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Truth will out malaise Nov 2024 #109
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There is no point saving your ammunition for the bigger battles soon coming. magicarpet Nov 2024 #221
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K&R defacto7 Nov 2024 #183
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"We have no evidence that the outcomes of the elections in those states were actually compromised" speak easy Nov 2024 #5
Yes, these security experts are requesting... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #7
Those states are doing audits Abnredleg Nov 2024 #9
One of the things they are pointing out dickthegrouch Nov 2024 #11
Dems hold SOS office in 6 of 7 swing states Abnredleg Nov 2024 #12
It goes further than just SOS's waving a magic wand to fix things... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #15
Does no one trust Harris? AkFemDem Nov 2024 #159
Yes, these security experts address the audits in the letter.. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #13
Point being that the facts will come out Abnredleg Nov 2024 #17
I disagree, I think audits and recounts should be done... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #19
They ARE doing vigorous verification Abnredleg Nov 2024 #21
No, they are possibly doing belated audits... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #22
Any discrepancies would be remedied Abnredleg Nov 2024 #24
Pardon my American, but,... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #25
Get used to the frustration Abnredleg Nov 2024 #37
I think we are talking about 2 completely different subjects... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #38
And why would we doubt the numbers? Abnredleg Nov 2024 #39
I doubt the numbers for a few reasons... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #41
This is the exact same thing that happened in 2020 Abnredleg Nov 2024 #42
Hang on... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #46
I was referring to the "concerns" you have Abnredleg Nov 2024 #49
No, no, you said you answered all my questions... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #50
I just clarified what I said Abnredleg Nov 2024 #51
But you said you answered all my questions, where are the audit and recount results... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #55
You're being deliberately obtuse Abnredleg Nov 2024 #62
I have been painstakingly clear that I am only calling for verification of the first-count results... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Nov 2024 #101
Swing state voter here. DiamondShark Nov 2024 #100
What county is delaying the audit? DiamondShark Nov 2024 #98
Amen to that ! Tweedy Nov 2024 #233
Most of Trump's complaints about voter fraud Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #78
What breaches are you referring to? Abnredleg Nov 2024 #79
The security breaches Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #83
I was there in 2016... DiamondShark Nov 2024 #102
Read the article , these breaches happened this year questionseverything Nov 2024 #237
I don't need to "read the articles." DiamondShark Nov 2024 #239
Are you implying that my former coworkers are not doing their jobs? DiamondShark Nov 2024 #242
I don't know who or what you might be but no techie questionseverything Nov 2024 #244
As I have stated up thread. re-read the posts. DiamondShark Nov 2024 #245
Nah, not the same as MAGAt Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #88
you mean, run out the clock? stillcool Nov 2024 #33
They dance around the subject... DiamondShark Nov 2024 #103
Absolutely the case. Bluetus Nov 2024 #230
The majority of the country votes with a paper trail Abnredleg Nov 2024 #231
A paper trail that you don't think any regular citizen should get to inspect questionseverything Nov 2024 #251
Both parties observe the count and audits Abnredleg Nov 2024 #254
No matter what you say, a thousand people could watch a machine spit out a results tape questionseverything Nov 2024 #256
Ever wonder why the campaign didn't question the outcome? Abnredleg Nov 2024 #258
You don't acknowledge that the system is non transparent or that American citizens have a right to oversee the questionseverything Nov 2024 #269
Cool site! LeftInTX Nov 2024 #277
when law enforcement investigates ANY POSSIBLE crime, speak easy Nov 2024 #28
The difference being, we the American people have a right to oversee our elections questionseverything Nov 2024 #32
They usually need some evidence that a crime was in fact committed before investigating Kaleva Nov 2024 #177
Would exit polling work for you?.. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #178
No Kaleva Nov 2024 #189
okay, well... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #192
I'll call the police when I have actually been mugged. Kaleva Nov 2024 #196
oh no no no no no no.... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #197
Where did I say that I needed ALL the evidence Kaleva Nov 2024 #198
on a side note... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #199
So what has the Harris campaign told you? Kaleva Nov 2024 #268
Oh, I think you misunderstand... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #271
You are still making these badly flawed analogies Zeitghost Nov 2024 #203
oh! You didn't read the OP, did you?!? Think. Again. Nov 2024 #205
We've been over this Zeitghost Nov 2024 #206
And I'll say it once again... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #217
A targeted hand count Loupe Garoue Nov 2024 #10
There were security breaches Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #64
Well, when you investigate concerns THAT''S when you usually uncover whatever evidence there is!! ElementaryPenguin Nov 2024 #92
There's this concept called probable cause Abnredleg Nov 2024 #202
Why do you have such a problem with transparency in our elections? questionseverything Nov 2024 #235
I like transparency but hate conspiracies Abnredleg Nov 2024 #243
If American citizens are not allowed to see the actual counting of votes, questionseverything Nov 2024 #246
Nonbinding does not mean ignore Abnredleg Nov 2024 #247
When kerry "lost" to bush the congressional black caucus questionseverything Nov 2024 #250
Unhappiness is not probable cause Abnredleg Nov 2024 #252
Sniff sniff - pee ewww G.O.P. BoRaGard Nov 2024 #6
To my way of thinking, AFTER witnessing what TFG WILL DO in our countrys future bluestarone Nov 2024 #14
I agree, I think that rigorous result verification.. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #16
Kamala lost the election fair & square. Just as Trump did in 2020. Enough said. n/t Jacson6 Nov 2024 #18
Are you a cybersecurity expert? Or have access to all of the voter data? lees1975 Nov 2024 #27
Raises hand, Pick me, Pick me! DiamondShark Nov 2024 #104
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But..but..but..that's a conspiracy asm128 Nov 2024 #20
I agree, there's a reason why the concept of recounts is a thing. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #23
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Ha! Yes... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #122
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THAT is the big question, although I suspect I know the answer..... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #125
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I'd love to see a recount of some areas if possible Ilikepurple Nov 2024 #29
Well said. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #31
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Doesn't seem too promising Zeitghost Nov 2024 #34
Correct... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #43
You're putting the cart before the horse Zeitghost Nov 2024 #53
Yes, there is "suspicion" of crimes being committed... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #57
No, there is wild speculation Zeitghost Nov 2024 #61
In response to your "wild speculation" claim, I guess it's okay to just post this again... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #66
Right, they clearly state: Zeitghost Nov 2024 #68
Right, they also clearly state at the very beginning of their letter... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #70
Which is why I stated Zeitghost Nov 2024 #73
But I have not made any claims at all.... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #74
Yes you have Zeitghost Nov 2024 #77
That's called an "analogy", spelled differently than "claim". Think. Again. Nov 2024 #82
An analogy Zeitghost Nov 2024 #85
The discussion was obviously about actively looking for evidence. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #90
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I'm happy with that, why aren't you? NJCher Nov 2024 #84
It seems to me Zeitghost Nov 2024 #87
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And those with certainty that there wasn't fraud are... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #124
Yep tintinvotes Nov 2024 #173
These are cybersecurity experts, not the My Pillow guy. Loupe Garoue Nov 2024 #174
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Did those Security Professionals compromise our election? DiamondShark Nov 2024 #105
They sent the letter to Harris soandso Nov 2024 #110
Elias didn't seem to think bomb scares all over Democratic strongholds were a huge problem questionseverything Nov 2024 #255
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Thank you! Think. Again. Nov 2024 #153
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Yep, just like real life. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #155
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I agree... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #166
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yup. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #169
audit Autisminsight Nov 2024 #35
Where's the probable cause? Abnredleg Nov 2024 #36
Correction... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #44
You're trying too hard Abnredleg Nov 2024 #45
(psssttt... some of the first-counts aren't even done yet and audits also take a little time) Think. Again. Nov 2024 #48
And audit ANY/ALL ballots that ever got near Musk's Starlink system. Attilatheblond Nov 2024 #52
These folks are serious. Catbird Nov 2024 #40
There is a downside to extralegal steps Abnredleg Nov 2024 #47
Usually that might be true Loupe Garoue Nov 2024 #56
Why would improvements have to wait until AFTER a questionable election? Think. Again. Nov 2024 #60
You're begging the question Abnredleg Nov 2024 #65
Nonsense. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #69
Some proof would be nice Abnredleg Nov 2024 #71
I agree, let's go straight to recounts and get whatever proof there may be. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #72
How about establishing the need for extralegal steps? Abnredleg Nov 2024 #76
Oh, okay, I guess you missed this part of the thread, here ya go... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #80
That letter is assumption piled on assumption Abnredleg Nov 2024 #86
That letter is the entire premise of this entire thread. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #91
We did in 2016. DiamondShark Nov 2024 #108
Not extralegal Catbird Nov 2024 #75
A conspiracy? LiberaBlueDem Nov 2024 #59
I agree, I don't think we should just "look the other way" either. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #63
Do you not think that the Democratic party and Harris campaign soandso Nov 2024 #112
I'm sure they would.... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #121
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I don't think it should effect your opinion soandso Nov 2024 #263
I don't see why I appear "desperate" to you when all I'm doing is replying to other posters. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #265
Okay, then my bad soandso Nov 2024 #266
I believe they seriously don't want the first-count challenged... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #270
I think some are afraid of looking or being "conspiratorial" soandso Nov 2024 #272
And all I'm saying is... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #273
I understand soandso Nov 2024 #274
And my position throughout this entire thread is that... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #275
Are you saying you want a full, nationwide, recount? soandso Nov 2024 #278
That should be standard practice with anything as important as public office elections... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #279
I had to look up bullet ballot soandso Nov 2024 #280
I am referring to these "bullet ballots"... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #281
Okay, I looked at some of that and he's speculating soandso Nov 2024 #282
Yes, just as when any prosecutor brings any case to court.... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #283
Belief isn't enough soandso Nov 2024 #284
Ye, that evidence is "discovered" through investigations, like the recounts that are being called for. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #285
Yeah... About that... I'm feeling left out, ya know. DiamondShark Nov 2024 #267
I hope so. Loupe Garoue Nov 2024 #185
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Delete SoCalDavidS Nov 2024 #81
The party who gave us FAKE ELECTORS cheat, no way! Emile Nov 2024 #89
Yep Meowmee Nov 2024 #99
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VP Harris, Listen and Act. We Beg You!!! pat_k Nov 2024 #106
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pretty much what I said lapfog_1 Nov 2024 #107
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It is ABSOLUTELY essential that the Harris/Walz campaign audit votes, but the software needs to be forensically BComplex Nov 2024 #150
A simple hand count Loupe Garoue Nov 2024 #186
The number of socks I have to wash today is insurmountable. rzemanfl Nov 2024 #157
have you had to re-wash? stillcool Nov 2024 #180
Escapees bother me more, and they never escape in pairs. rzemanfl Nov 2024 #193
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You are talking to me, right? Loupe Garoue Nov 2024 #187
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How do I repost this? Loupe Garoue Nov 2024 #195
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How would a recount show if the systems were hacked or exploited? ecstatic Nov 2024 #176
a recount of the ballots, and whatever the term is stillcool Nov 2024 #179
Audits are already required by current election laws... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #188
There is nothing wrong with an audit recount Jarqui Nov 2024 #181
Audits are part of the certification process Abnredleg Nov 2024 #200
"Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Curtain!" Think. Again. Nov 2024 #201
Finally, you said something accurate Abnredleg Nov 2024 #207
Maybe we should not even actually count the votes... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #218
They did count the votes Abnredleg Nov 2024 #220
I see, YOUR experience tells you the people who signed... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #223
Not to mention the rest of the election security community Abnredleg Nov 2024 #224
Oh, and you can speak for the entire election security community... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #225
Your diversion tactics aren't working Abnredleg Nov 2024 #227
Mmm, cool story. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #228
I accept your concession Abnredleg Nov 2024 #229
Hmm, yeah, how 'bout that. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #257
One concession is enough Abnredleg Nov 2024 #259
they're sure as hell not going to tell you NJCher Nov 2024 #261
Campaigns and parties leak like sieves Abnredleg Nov 2024 #262
show me NJCher Nov 2024 #264
My experience as well, but you fail to address any statements I make. DiamondShark Nov 2024 #248
How do we know that the Harris campaign hasn't picked up things with their own data? Jarqui Nov 2024 #222
Greg Palast thinks that provisional ballots were the key, with over 2 million tossed. TheRickles Nov 2024 #204
It's a bit late for this. Grins Nov 2024 #208
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How many votes were cast? How many were rejected? Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #211
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for everyone on this thread lapfog_1 Nov 2024 #212
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Exactly why a hand count is the only way to verify vote totals Loupe Garoue Nov 2024 #219
98% of votes were cast by paper ballot. DiamondShark Nov 2024 #249
Here is an LA Times article from last March about Trump's team accessing voting machines Babajida Nov 2024 #241
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Go for it Babajida Nov 2024 #260
K&R n/t Alice Kramden Nov 2024 #276
Stephen Spoonamore was interviewed by Thom Hartmann yesterday Loupe Garoue Nov 2024 #286
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