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drray23

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39. None of these topics mattered by themselve

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 03:38 PM

Nov 13

What drove this loss is targeted disinformation that the right wing is very good at. They flooded the social media of young and disaffected folks with a barrage of lies.
We instead relied on facts and policies. That does not work. Until we dismantle the rw propaganda machine or build one of our own to counter it we will never win the presidential elections again and likely stay in the minority in congress.

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What's your opinion as to the number one issue that caused Trump/GOP to win [View all] Demovictory9 Nov 13 OP

None of the above gab13by13 Nov 13 #1

Then what? Demovictory9 Nov 13 #2

The war on reality lame54 Nov 13 #12

Yeah... In a word: LIES (albeit racism/misogyny were entertwined) hlthe2b Nov 13 #15

Lies would have been my choice here too.! GreenWave Nov 13 #18

Nonstop social media disinformation Zambero Nov 13 #52

Stupid American people. PhilosopherKing Nov 13 #57

Apathy and exhaustion Demanchor Nov 13 #60

All of the above - expanded northoftheborder Nov 14 #65

Saturation of right-wing propaganda ibegurpard Nov 13 #3

Regarding what issue? All equally or one in particular Demovictory9 Nov 13 #4

You don't watch the newz or read the incessant threads about media distortions? live love laugh Nov 13 #38

I do..yes Demovictory9 Nov 13 #43

You expect someone to pick through or rank the flood of live love laugh Nov 13 #48

I agree awesomerwb1 Nov 13 #11

Stupidity Dan Nov 13 #5

It would be interesting DeepWinter Nov 13 #6

There isn't a single issue that caused Trump to win Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #7

self loathing The Wizard Nov 13 #8

Stupidity Macrophylla Nov 13 #9

white supremacy WhiskeyGrinder Nov 13 #10

Agreed. I am seeing so many people celebrating the coming deportations Demovictory9 Nov 13 #13

The RW and shadowy billionaires have been working to get to this point for decades. Crunchy Frog Nov 13 #14

The real reason is'nt on there Nigrum Cattus Nov 13 #16

Democrats over confidence, shades of 2016. republianmushroom Nov 13 #17

yep DeepWinter Nov 13 #23

you need to include the media Native Nov 13 #19

That's my #1 reason mvd Nov 13 #21

Fear of immigrants, women, non-whites, gun registration, homosexuals, people who are educated, Ping Tung Nov 13 #20

Which is the Republicans propaganda machine oldmanlynn Nov 13 #26

Exactly. They bamboozled the citizenry into believing that a "Strong Leader" would save them. Ping Tung Nov 13 #33

The propaganda machine. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 13 #22

Another reason that may be overlooked Maeve Nov 13 #24

Interesting point Demovictory9 Nov 13 #34

You don't have misinformation or disinformation in your pool oldmanlynn Nov 13 #25

I didnt think of that. Demovictory9 Nov 13 #35

Stupidity. n/t flvegan Nov 13 #27

Maybe need a Democratic Voter Turnout option n/t leftstreet Nov 13 #28

Cost of housing, mortgage rates, inflation PLUS all the others. OrlandoDem2 Nov 13 #29

Stupidity LW1977 Nov 13 #30

The stupidity, low character, and narcissism of too many Americans. TheKentuckian Nov 13 #31

Amen brother. In a healthy electorate, he never would have been on the ticket in the first place. meadowlander Nov 14 #67

Super fair! TheKentuckian Nov 14 #68

Too many American voters are ignorant, arrogant... 3catwoman3 Nov 13 #32

Lol..yeah there is that Demovictory9 Nov 13 #36

What's your opinion as to the number one issue that caused Trump/GOP to win ironman99 Nov 13 #37

None of these topics mattered by themselve drray23 Nov 13 #39

Agreed. RW are experts at spreading propaganda. We got 2 years to counter Demovictory9 Nov 13 #41

Without an audit, we will never know what effect voter suppression in all its forms had on the tallies, and then.... usaf-vet Nov 13 #40

The answer ForgedCrank Nov 13 #42

'Misinformation' would have been my choice. nt City Lights Nov 13 #44

Ignorance. Which is a huge umbrella. Solly Mack Nov 13 #45

Need one more option Polybius Nov 13 #46

Option: bad campaign choices by Dems Demovictory9 Nov 13 #47

The four-year, 24 hour a day, 7 day a week campaign for Trump waged by the mainstream media. lees1975 Nov 13 #49

💯💯💯💯💯💯♾️ live love laugh Nov 13 #50

Its incredible how much attention he gets Demovictory9 Nov 14 #62

You left out religion. Mariana Nov 13 #51

Y'all are forgetting about the Israel-Palestine conflict ecstatic Nov 13 #53

OTHER: An utter tsunami of disinformation that we couldn't overcome... Blue_Tires Nov 13 #54

Not convinced of the "win." rzemanfl Nov 13 #55

Sexism and racism kept people from seeing VD Chance and the Felon could **NOT** fix number one with their dumb ass ... uponit7771 Nov 13 #56

I'll go with Theproletariat Nov 13 #58

Media apcalc Nov 13 #59

cheating gopiscrap Nov 13 #61

I didn't see propaganda on that list Sugarcoated Nov 14 #63

In hindsight..i would write different poll options Demovictory9 Nov 14 #66

Biden stepping down nuxvomica Nov 14 #64

Two things - immigration and transgender ads JanMichael Nov 14 #69

Yep Demovictory9 Nov 14 #71

So many Meowmee Nov 14 #70

Delusional Hatred & Machiavellian Malevolence Are THE Primary Reasons... MayReasonRule Friday #72