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73. Trump's numbers were not that far off from 2020
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 04:26 PM
Nov 2024

But Harris "lost" 10,000,000 votes from Biden's 2020 vote count. So we are to believe that 10,000,000 fewer people voted this time than in 2020?

You gotta come up with a lot of data and interviews to make me believe this.

Gore won in 2000 and it took the "Supreme" Court to give the nod to Cheney/Bush.

Romney lost in 2012 -- but if you recall, Karl Rove was in disbelief when he heard the results -- ON FOX -- and insisted that he be shown the numbers. Remember Megyn Kelly had to literally take him to whatever the room in Fox actually posted the data. Rove wasn't a little surprised. He was "dammit, I thought we fixed this!" surprise. Kerry won in 2004 but Blackwell (Ohio) fixed the numbers there and the only person who could cast authoritative doubt on the Ohio numbers was conveniently killed (was he enroute to D.C. to testify?) when the small plane he was piloting crashed. Meanwhile, for Kerry, almost all of the exit polls showed him kicking Cheney/Bush's ass -- yet none of those polls showed up in the vote count -- people coming out of the election site told pollsters they voted for Kerry but, for the first time ever, the exit polls "failed" as a predictor.

And of course Donnie Fatso would not have won in 2016 -- Hillary had more popular votes -- if Comey hadn't deliberately (and with malice aforethought) violated FBI procedures and prohibitions against publicizing the existence of on-going investigations.
(Yeah, there were other contributing factors, but this was the big one. Hillary was so certain Comey cost her the election that I would not be surprised if, should Comey die before her, she hired an army of old men to piss daily on his grave.

The Republicans have never shied away from cheating their asses off and it's cost the Democrats the White House 3 times this century. Almost cost us 4, but something went wrong and the effort to cheat Romney into the WH went awry.

So yeah, the cheated this time, too, and got away with..

Still, an awful lot of yokels, morons, fascists, and Nazis made it to the polls to vote for the rapist. A large part of the US adult population ain't worth a bucket of cold urine. Those who voted their self-interest, that is, the wealthy, are traitors to the founding principles of America. Those who voted against their self interest, the middle and working class, the working class poor, the economically struggling and disenfranchised were bamboozled by the fascists and will get exactly what they deserve.

Meanwhile, the Republic hangs by a thread, as does the world.

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We are supposed to believe that ruthless, vicious, desperate psychopaths followed the rules and laws. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #1
All of this! Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #6
It is basic psych profiling and crime scene analysis. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #13
Hear, here (is that right?) LSparkle Nov 2024 #27
They'll "memory hole this" because the media have already SPOKEN. dchill Nov 2024 #85
Agreed. The media wanted our eyeballs not to inform us LSparkle Nov 2024 #96
Here's another possibility. Mr. Evil Nov 2024 #66
I am fairly certain that a version of this scenario has occurred with certain members of congress. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #72
trump and Johnson's little secret. And trump doubling down on garbage Latinos... brush Nov 2024 #84
Exactly. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #127
Yep, and now we have to deal with a senile-adjacent, bloviating fool delivering mental weave for 4 years. brush Nov 2024 #129
They don't have to invoke the 25th. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #131
God, we are so in trouble. brush Nov 2024 #132
"...and in front of a speeding turnip truck.." The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 2024 #134
I'll take my cues from the DNC and the Harris/Walz campaign. I sure wish the left... LAS14 Nov 2024 #91
I stand by my psychological profiling. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #93
CONSPIRACY THEORY? REALLY?!! Well, what about the VERBATIM statement give by Nikolai Patrushev, a member of pootie's The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 2024 #135
Flipped votes were documented on BMDs in PA in November 2023 lostnfound Nov 2024 #108
I am sure the Russian/Chinese military hackers were able to figure all of this out. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #109
We heard for four years that the election was stolen. I doubt the public wants to hear it another four jimfields33 Nov 2024 #126
Four years ago a house down the block burned down... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #157
The public appears to want to hear only lies. Not the truth. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #163
Well said. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #155
I agree. I weighed in a couple of times already Jarqui Nov 2024 #2
the question is what does "thoroughly check" mean garybeck Nov 2024 #11
Trump people could have given this same pep-talk four years ago. tritsofme Nov 2024 #16
Post removed Post removed Nov 2024 #19
You really can't say that. dchill Nov 2024 #86
Okay, then what is the purpose of the discussion? TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #90
You do understand that evidence you are requiring for audits and recounts... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #158
Recounts in all close races is a start Jarqui Nov 2024 #36
There are a variety of things that could be involved Jarqui Nov 2024 #161
This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Nov 2024 #151
Two main reasons IMO. 1) We spent the last 4 years deriding/mocking/ridiculing kelly1mm Nov 2024 #3
Rs continued to deny reality AFTER investigations were complete spooky3 Nov 2024 #5
And that is the difference between us and them Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #10
I guess highly circumstantial to very speculative is a notch or two above baseless TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #21
We were deriding/mocking/ridiculing way before the investigations/court cases were completed kelly1mm Nov 2024 #46
We disagree. Nt spooky3 Nov 2024 #64
i agree and I think that was done on purpose garybeck Nov 2024 #7
And they went through 60 court cases. The AP called this election that first night. pnwmom Nov 2024 #40
They can be filed as soon as they can be prepared. And R's will deride/mock/ridicule us just like we did them. nt kelly1mm Nov 2024 #47
They can mock us all they want. Don't you see how we were set up? pnwmom Nov 2024 #49
I do not believe there was any credible reports of hacking if you are referring to vote switching kelly1mm Nov 2024 #52
According to Greg Palast, there were 2.7 million rejected provisional ballots last time. pnwmom Nov 2024 #88
I think every court refused to hear their cases soandso Nov 2024 #122
Stephen Spoonamoore's 11/15 Duty to Warn letter is worth the read Babajida Nov 2024 #154
There are differences Meowmee Nov 2024 #104
Being 'a fascist lunatic trying to take over the country' is not evidence of voting irregularities. Can you kelly1mm Nov 2024 #110
Yes it is imo, it's not normal to tell your voters. They don't have to vote because you already have the votes since whe Meowmee Nov 2024 #111
He said they would not need to vote 'next time'. He said he needed their votes now and then kelly1mm Nov 2024 #112
He also said after that first statement several times Meowmee Nov 2024 #113
Evidence? Martin68 Nov 2024 #124
We lost. No recount, court case, protest, etc., is going to change that. We have mid-terms coming. Silent Type Nov 2024 #4
We Have Mid-Terms Coming? LOL!!!!! SoCalDavidS Nov 2024 #25
I choose not to sulk. Silent Type Nov 2024 #38
It's not about sulking. Do you really think Trump would allow fair mid terms if they succeeded pnwmom Nov 2024 #44
Except he didn't flip 2024. If Harris, Biden, etc., believe results were correct, I'll continue to move on. We lost. Silent Type Nov 2024 #50
If they got away with fixing this election, why would anything be different in the midterms? nt pnwmom Nov 2024 #41
Well, yeah, if the got away with fixing election. But don't think they did and I'm not a GOPer type election denier. Silent Type Nov 2024 #78
There aren't going to be any more elections. I heard it form the Dump himself. Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #62
They've spent eight years softening up public reaction to this argument, and made such a fuss lees1975 Nov 2024 #8
Our highest elected officials on a State level have been assuring voters for over three years MichMan Nov 2024 #9
the 2nd one garybeck Nov 2024 #12
Based on what direct evidence? No, a report from twenty years ago nor Lichtmans non scientific keys qualify. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #43
evidence..... garybeck Nov 2024 #58
Exactly keepthemhonestO Nov 2024 #65
that is a GREAT question! where is TRUTH IS ALL ? n/t garybeck Nov 2024 #75
Well keepthemhonestO Nov 2024 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2024 #128
I'll be happy to question the results -misanthroptimist Nov 2024 #14
You mean the dozen or so threads on the subject? Fish700 Nov 2024 #15
Threads are not evidence. Martin68 Nov 2024 #123
Didn't say they were. The OP asked why isn't there more discussion when the site is riddled with threads about it. Fish700 Nov 2024 #143
These things happened in 2020 2016 2012 and 2008 also ColinC Nov 2024 #17
one mistake people make is garybeck Nov 2024 #22
No. It's questioning our democratic process with little to no evidence. Just like Trump did. ColinC Nov 2024 #23
Trump did this for months it's less than a week later. Ilikepurple Nov 2024 #101
Were gonna need a left wing "My Pillow Guy" Zeitghost Nov 2024 #18
more than that :) but yeah! n/t garybeck Nov 2024 #20
'foolish' 'stupid' 'vulnerable' appear to be pervasive. elleng Nov 2024 #24
No RandySF Nov 2024 #26
Sounds like you're saying is Trump's complaints after 2020 should have been taken more seriously and given more credence onenote Nov 2024 #28
In the olden days we watched them get stolen from us right before our eyes. Hope22 Nov 2024 #30
What anomalies? Lower turnout isnt an anomaly. hootman Nov 2024 #34
Then that must be that! Hope22 Nov 2024 #69
Here's something to chew on... Hope22 Nov 2024 #70
Starling wasnt used to upload votes. Now we're in conspiracy land. hootman Nov 2024 #100
His cases were taken seriously. There were 60 court cases. How many have we had? nt pnwmom Nov 2024 #45
onenote, why are you ALWAYS a naysayer about challenging the validity of Trump's suspicious "victory"? ElementaryPenguin Nov 2024 #145
When there is something credible to react to, I won't be a naysayer. onenote Nov 2024 #148
Not suppose to question like we were not suppose to challenge Garland. LizBeth Nov 2024 #29
Just because there are likely ongoing election investigations that can't yet be revealed, nevermind reported. ancianita Nov 2024 #31
ALL the votes haven't been counted. When they are it wont be millions & millions fewer hootman Nov 2024 #32
The rigging happened in plain site crud Nov 2024 #33
I agree 100%. I am astounded that some are accepting this and that the leaders are not making issues of all of this. 58Sunliner Nov 2024 #35
No, no, no. Sorry. I think at least some of this is being pushed by Russian and other psyops. LauraInLA Nov 2024 #37
garybeck Upthevibe Nov 2024 #39
the Brennsn Center stillcool Nov 2024 #42
But if Repubs go low, Dems go high, and the electorate rewards that with respect and votes. Oh, wait... Beartracks Nov 2024 #48
I'm not discussing it here JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #51
I'm surprised too, garybeck. littlemissmartypants Nov 2024 #53
Until I see proof of fraud, I will stick to my first instinct kellytore Nov 2024 #54
Both things can be true - we live in a country of many idiots and the vote was hacked as well. ElementaryPenguin Nov 2024 #146
We need post-election audits NOW. AmBlue Nov 2024 #55
We do have post election audits EdmondDantes_ Nov 2024 #105
I stand corrected AmBlue Nov 2024 #117
Recount means run through the machines with a "mix" of hand counting questionseverything Nov 2024 #144
Most states do not require... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #159
Read the doc you just shared. garybeck Nov 2024 #119
They are only separated now by 3,587,866 votes. Mosby Nov 2024 #56
Occam's Razor? Yes, it's likely many millions fewer people voted LearnedHand Nov 2024 #57
That's a Republican thing. Groundhawg Nov 2024 #59
No it's not. garybeck Nov 2024 #121
Totally with you, garybeck! dchill Nov 2024 #60
Agreed keepthemhonestO Nov 2024 #61
I'm with you on this. More information and investigation is needed! liberalla Nov 2024 #63
You have ReRe Nov 2024 #67
for the same reason we don't believe the grassy knoll fairytale. n/t Hamlette Nov 2024 #68
Its keepthemhonestO Nov 2024 #71
Trump's numbers were not that far off from 2020 RVN VET71 Nov 2024 #73
John Pavlovitz is posting about the under votes kristndem Nov 2024 #74
Has he seen actual ballots???? LeftInTX Nov 2024 #77
You are correct...we should be able to see the ballots questionseverything Nov 2024 #152
K&R red dog 1 Nov 2024 #76
Just because a bank could be robbed doesn't mean it was robbed Kaleva Nov 2024 #80
This plus the fact that nearly the entire country saw a rightward shift DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2024 #107
And Michigan is controlled by Democrats Kaleva Nov 2024 #116
When the bank does an audit k55f5r Nov 2024 #130
When the bank does an audit? k55f5r Nov 2024 #133
If a bank was expecting a deposit of 10 million but it doesn't happen Kaleva Nov 2024 #142
MAGA co-opted the issue Cirsium Nov 2024 #81
Threads like this SCantiGOP Nov 2024 #82
Do you think the party who gave us FAKE ELECTORS would not cheat? Emile Nov 2024 #162
One tidbit to add to the pile.. essaynnc Nov 2024 #83
The Texas Secretary of State is auditing the election. Susan Calvin Nov 2024 #87
I'm afraid.... essaynnc Nov 2024 #92
Yeah, but then why are they auditing in the first place? Susan Calvin Nov 2024 #99
This task force was convened in 2005. LAS14 Nov 2024 #89
nope lapfog_1 Nov 2024 #106
There won't be any more Meowmee Nov 2024 #120
THIS malaise Nov 2024 #94
Do we have a task force in each swing State KS Toronado Nov 2024 #95
There are tens of thousands of people Progressive dog Nov 2024 #97
I don't get those who are just ready to roll over and take the loss Blue Owl Nov 2024 #98
If there are mandated random hand audits that are properly run and results compared to... yourout Nov 2024 #102
I do not know of such mandatory spot-auditing in PA. John1956PA Nov 2024 #125
If The Democrats Cry Foul, And Act Like Sore Losers, Voters Will Punish Us SoCalDavidS Nov 2024 #103
"Look what happened to T in this election" - ahem, he won. TBF Nov 2024 #141
Even if it was orangecrush Nov 2024 #114
Just the numbers, no way this is legit Autisminsight Nov 2024 #115
bogus numbers in Wisconsin Autisminsight Nov 2024 #118
Thank You For Posting This annielion Nov 2024 #136
I cannot believe it. NT bcbink Nov 2024 #137
Surprised how little? Really? MarvinGardens Nov 2024 #138
This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Nov 2024 #153
Great post! hamsterjill Nov 2024 #139
Great post! hamsterjill Nov 2024 #140
What are they so afraid of? Meowmee Nov 2024 #147
Most states do audits. onenote Nov 2024 #149
Do full audits/recounts and forensic investigation every election in every state Meowmee Nov 2024 #150
Thank you for posting this. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #156
Too many people on here will cry conspiracy theories!! Lunabell Nov 2024 #160
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